citykid09 Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Which one will be better? As in Quality, Shopping, Entertanment etc. Houston Pavilions-Downtown http://img225.exs.cx/img225/373/newpavilions5ln.jpg Boulevard Place-Uptown http://www.wulfe.com/images/PagePhotos/BoulevardPlace_Lg.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Post Oak is a cluster of traffic.I'll pass on anything in that location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 But it will be nice, and give Houston more of a name as a place with a fashion district. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Don't think either will be better than the other. Both a little different. The Post Oak one is more fitting for the Uptown area by being a little more spread out. I think it'll be more of a Mall type than an entertainment type place.I think Houston Pavillons (downtown) will be more entertainment geared with restraunts and bars beside being mainly stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 I wonder if many of the high-end retail stores will leave the Galleria and go to Boulevard Place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Why?Can there be two? There many stores in the Galleria, but there are many others that the Galleria doesn have. This may have been the reason the Pavillion didn't succeed in the first place. Some store may duplicate and possible move, but not necessarily.It would be good for Boulevard Place to pull in stores not typical to Houston or Uptown. Then it would be a different than the Galleria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 What stores aren't typical to Houston? Pretty much every store is in Houston. Mabe they will place a Bloomingdales at Boulevard Place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YakuzaIce Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I like the Pavillion alot more, but I like boulevard place also. It is more fitting for uptown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2H Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 i know i'm hyped up about this project but if it's delayed or doesn't happen at all, i'm not going to be very happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasboy Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 What stores aren't typical to Houston? Pretty much every store is in Houston. Mabe they will place a Bloomingdales at Boulevard Place.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Prada, Roberto Cavali, D&G, Diesel, Escada, Manolo Blahnik, Jean Paul Gaultier, Hugo Boss, DKNY, Valentino, and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownKid Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Prada, Roberto Cavali, D&G, Diesel, Escada, Manolo Blahnik, Jean Paul Gaultier, Hugo Boss, DKNY, Valentino, and others.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>True I think it should be a mix of high end designers like the ones mention(which it will probably naturally attract) we can already add Hermes as a new tenant since they agreed to be there, and locally owned boutiques we be fitting of it an a upscale bistro or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Both are great. Stop comparing Fuji apples and red apples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Well, I just wanted to see which one people where more excited about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 No way to know which will be better at this stage since we don't know who will lease in either property.If I were to place a bet, I would wager that Uptown will be a better project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Well, I just wanted to see which one people where more excited about.*looks at Boulevard place**checks serotonin levels**looks at Houston Pavilions**checks serotonin levels**repeats experiment several times**performs experiment several times on other people**changes a few factors in one group, and makes observations**compares all data**ensures that the test sample population is random**does more tests**finlizes results**publishes a paper on the results**holds a press event**wites a book**contributes to the scientific, medical, and architectural communities**wins a Nobel peace prize* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston-development Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Both are great. Stop comparing Fuji apples and red apples! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :applause: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YakuzaIce Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 *wins a Nobel peace prize*<{POST_SNAPBACK}>But what were the results!?!?!Now actually answering citykid's questions. I think quality will be fairly similar maybe with Pavillions a little better. Boulevard will probably have better shopping. Lastly I think Pavillions will have better entertainment. But as for affecting the area I think Pavillions will have a huge impact on Downtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I agree with Yakuza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Judah Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 The Pavilions project, because it will include a park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Anything to increase the density in uptown is good. I only wish that Uptown Park looked more like Boulevard Place. But it could have been worse I guess, like the generic Container Store/Oshman's strip center.I still blame the city's "what could it have been" theory on the oil bust in the early *80'sHouston should have twice the amount of dense buildings by now if we did not go through that horrible recession which killed so many great building projects only to be replaced by cheap strip centers.But then again, those strip centers are just place holders for future developements, the Boulevard Place.I am all for it, uptown all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 Anything to increase the density in uptown is good. I only wish that Uptown Park looked more like Boulevard Place. But it could have been worse I guess, like the generic Container Store/Oshman's strip center.I still blame the city's "what could it have been" theory on the oil bust in the early *80'sHouston should have twice the amount of dense buildings by now if we did not go through that horrible recession which killed so many great building projects only to be replaced by cheap strip centers.But then again, those strip centers are just place holders for future developements, the Boulevard Place.I am all for it, uptown all the way!<{POST_SNAPBACK}>That Container store is ugly! Mabe in the future they will look around them and notice that they look out of place. I like the look of that new resturant where FAO Swartizs??? use to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 They tried to dress up that strip center with a renovation 2 years ago, but the shopping center with the Grand Lux/old FAO is much nicer.They did really good with removing the Exxon a few years back too and replacing it with the Starbucks building.If they were smarter, they would have moved up the Starbucks right to the corner of the street, like the one by my house on Westhiemer and Fountainview. That Starbucks is a small gem, since it is right on the corner of the interesection, litereally.But for the Westhiemer and Post Oak one, they decided a drive through would be better in between the building and the intersection.That is Houston for you, more interest in car friendly, rather than pedestrian friendly buildings.I say, bring all the shopping centers to the street, create parrallel parking along Post Oak with a wide tree lined sidewalk, and place the rest of the parking in the rear of the shopping centers.The only real difference is that there will be 2 entrances to the stores, a street side and a parking lot side.If developers would only listen they could create activity on the sidewalk.Think about this, how much nicer would a CVS pharmacy look if it was on the corner of the intersection connected to the main sidewalk, rather than having 2 rows of parking in front of it, and then the sidewalk.But I digress. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 The Pavilions project, because it will include a park.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>The Pavilions project does not include a park. There just happens to be a park being developed several blocks away from where the Pavilions is being developed. Two totally separate and unrelated projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 That park in front of the George R Brown is just a haven for the homeless.They invade the benches and just stink up the place.They need to lay off the crack and get jobs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 If they were smarter, they would have moved up the Starbucks right to the corner of the street, like the one by my house on Westhiemer and Fountainview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 It is the best, unlike the other Starbucks, it is not as busy. I can't wait until that Nazaars Plaza gets rid of the adult book store and gets other tenents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Plastic Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 They're building something in The Galleria area?GOod the need to start rebuilding Uptown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 *knock knock*hello!?!?!They've been rebuilding the uptown area for the past 4 years. Where have you been?Have you not seen the new condos, new shopping centers, new freewway upgrades, and even the cute new metro bus stops.Come on now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Downtown Pavillions, I think will be better since it will add a lot more retail to the downtown area, and hopefully encourage more retail to move in around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Plastic needs to get booted, he frustrates me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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