pineda Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 story from the Houston Community Newspapers new Klein Sun edition Quote
bachanon Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 unbelievable. is gentrification of the inner city pushing crime out to the suburbs? license to carry anyone?note to self: after an accident, do not roll down the window if in an isolated area until the situation has been deemed safe or the police have arrived.never assume that people are nice. truly freakin' sad. Quote
TheNiche Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 unbelievable. is gentrification of the inner city pushing crime out to the suburbs? license to carry anyone?Yes, it certainly has in many places. The area between the North Beltway and 1960 from IAH to around SH 249 seems to be such a place. Quote
houstonmacbro Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Yes, it certainly has in many places. The area between the North Beltway and 1960 from IAH to around SH 249 seems to be such a place.Don't paint that whole swath with your giant brush. I live in that area and it has pockets of everything --good and bad. Quote
bachanon Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 i remember when the worst police reports were underage drinking and traffic violations. lately, there seems to be more armed robbery, gunfire, doors kicked in............... Quote
TheNiche Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Don't paint that whole swath with your giant brush. I live in that area and it has pockets of everything --good and bad.Bachanon asked:is gentrification of the inner city pushing crime out to the suburbs?I stand by my response. I didn't say anything to the effect that the whole of the area is a ghetto. Quote
mrfootball Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 Worse stuff than this happens several times a day, every day elsewhere in this city and in the suburbs. During the same day there was a carjacking in Sugar Land. Sure, it's rare to see this happen out here and I've no tolerance of it, but eventually these clowns are going to get busted or worse. The reason, this person's email has made it into evey inbox in NW Harris County is because it is so rare here. Quote
hbcu Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 you push folks out they have to live somewhere...right? Blame the greedy developers....those apartments they built in abundance in the 80s and now have to be filled and if you ran folks off from one area they need to fill another...no matter how far you run, people will follow.....South Park, Bellfort, Westbury, Greenspoint, North Forest, etc...need I go on?you reap what you sew................. Quote
musicman Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 no matter how far you run, people will follow.....South Park, Bellfort, Westbury, Greenspoint, North Forest, etc...need I go on?you reap what you sew.................not pretty but true. Quote
TheNiche Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 you push folks out they have to live somewhere...right? Blame the greedy developers....those apartments they built in abundance in the 80s and now have to be filled and if you ran folks off from one area they need to fill another...It isn't just apartments, though. There are only so many 80's vintage apartments, and they were already pretty sketchy.There were a lot of homes built in this area with prices in the low $100,000s, with a few able to sell new for as low as $85,000. For a lot of poor households, this (and subprime lending) represented a rare opportunity to buy a home. And for some small-time investors, it represented an opportunity to buy and lease homes.Whether most folks realize it or not yet, we've witnessed the creation of dozens of new Sunnyside-like neighborhoods throughout the region. Quote
KatieDidIt Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 (edited) It isn't just apartments, though. There are only so many 80's vintage apartments, and they were already pretty sketchy.There were a lot of homes built in this area with prices in the low $100,000s, with a few able to sell new for as low as $85,000. For a lot of poor households, this (and subprime lending) represented a rare opportunity to buy a home. And for some small-time investors, it represented an opportunity to buy and lease homes.Whether most folks realize it or not yet, we've witnessed the creation of dozens of new Sunnyside-like neighborhoods throughout the region.And now a police Officer(off duty) was crtitically wounded during a gunfire exchange, at one of those apartments at Parametta and I-45. Right around 1960. That's far enough north from Greenspoint that you can't blame Northern Harris crime on Greenspoint along anymore. Edited January 27, 2008 by KatieDidIt Quote
mrfootball Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 (edited) Keeping this in perspective, there are well over a million people in NW Harris County. Pretty massive area. CFISD alone has a population equivalent to the City of Austin. Those saying that this 'bump & rob' crime and other random criminal acts equates to what goes on in Houston or other areas of comparable size and population every day are simply way off.With that said, I think the City of Houston is actively trying to push its junk out to the County. This was made quite clear when their policy regarding halfway houses was publicized as well as the Billboard fiasco. It's time for the Northwest communities to respond by incorporating themselves. If they incorporated into a single city, they'd immediately become one of the largest cities in the state. Whether or not they do that, or incorporate the individual communities of Cypress, Klein and Spring it will certainly help this area to better address these kinds of quality of life issues that affect the residents. Edited January 27, 2008 by mrfootball Quote
sowanome Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 you push folks out they have to live somewhere...right? Blame the greedy developers....those apartments they built in abundance in the 80s and now have to be filled and if you ran folks off from one area they need to fill another...no matter how far you run, people will follow.....South Park, Bellfort, Westbury, Greenspoint, North Forest, etc...need I go on?you reap what you sew.................North Forest (Tidwell/Homestead/Lockwood/Mesa Rd/N.Wayside) area, I second your opiniom on that area...Most of my life I grew up out there and that area needs to be torched, the schools and everything. "There's no other area like that in the nation that has it's own school district with no upside in any of its schools." To be the largest Black School District in the Nation, You'd expect to see Rev. Al Sharpton coming out to address the issue, but he's not insight... Quote
hbcu Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 The areas I mentioned were predominately white at one time and then blacks followed once they achieved the american dream only to be replaced by hispanic familes once the blacks move out...All along I-45 north that has happenedI lived off 249 and 1960 at one time so I got to know the NW area real well......the area by Westfield is long gone but thank mass transit also as Veterans Memorial is the major artery that changed the scene as the Metro line has made its impact on that...but then you take a closer look alot of the homes that were built in the 80s were designed for failure as those homes are too small and compact so you get what you build at timeslack of zonig has hurt also as every plot of land is now being developed with tax credit apartments Quote
ProHouston Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 Worse stuff than this happens several times a day, every day elsewhere in this city and in the suburbs. During the same day there was a carjacking in Sugar Land. Sure, it's rare to see this happen out here and I've no tolerance of it, but eventually these clowns are going to get busted or worse. The reason, this person's email has made it into evey inbox in NW Harris County is because it is so rare here.Don't go trying to pull us down again mrfootball. Sugar Land 5th Safest City In America Quote
cnote Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 Don't go trying to pull us down again mrfootball. Sugar Land 5th Safest City In AmericaI don't think he was trying to "pull you down". He was just saying stuff like this happens everywhere and isolated incidents don't mean an area is "unsafe"....I actaully heard about this carjacking in Sugarland on the news, two teenage kids jacked a family in their Escalade at First Colony Mall, I think they wanted to ghostride the whip.... Quote
psilverot Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 I hear a lot of people talk about how the great northwest houston or the willowbrook area will become the next greenspoint. It's funny to me because considering how many mansions (Champion Forest etc...) this area has compare to greenspoint. I literally drive around houston and its surrounding suburbs every other day. In my opinion, this is one of the best places to live in (in houston that is) in every aspect. Of course bad things are going to happen. The city is growing. The woodlands is very nice now (VERY NICE & clean) but we'll see in 10 years or so. People just have to stay and wait it out. Quote
rapturematt Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 I hear a lot of people talk about how the great northwest houston or the willowbrook area will become the next greenspoint. It's funny to me because considering how many mansions (Champion Forest etc...) this area has compare to greenspoint. I literally drive around houston and its surrounding suburbs every other day. In my opinion, this is one of the best places to live in (in houston that is) in every aspect. Of course bad things are going to happen. The city is growing. The woodlands is very nice now (VERY NICE & clean) but we'll see in 10 years or so. People just have to stay and wait it out. You could have said that about Riverside Terrace at one time. Crime is not discriminitory, it happens everywhere even if it is an isolated experience. It take us as a community to stand up to the criminals and let them know that it is not going to happen in your neighborhood instead of turning our heads. How do we do that, well I guess the first start would be to be more diligent in calling the police when something suspucious is happening and also getting involved or forming neighborhood watch programs. But, I guess that is another tread... Quote
CDeb Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 It take us as a community to stand up to the criminals and let them know that it is not going to happen in your neighborhood instead of turning our heads.Hmmmmmm......A fellah in Pasadena was pretty effective and all it's gotten him is hot water. Quote
rapturematt Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 Hmmmmmm......A fellah in Pasadena was pretty effective and all it's gotten him is hot water.It is amazing how your quote is completely taken out of context unless you read the whole thing. I don't think I ever suggested for someone to bring out a shotgun did I? It take us as a community to stand up to the criminals and let them know that it is not going to happen in your neighborhood instead of turning our heads. How do we do that, well I guess the first start would be to be more diligent in calling the police when something suspucious is happening and also getting involved or forming neighborhood watch programs.The police department is our friend. Quote
CDeb Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 Settle down, Francis. I was being facetious. Quote
CDeb Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 I guess it did not translate well.Yeah, I kind of suck at that at times. Quote
Mom22Blessings Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 I don't feel safe in Sugarland. It's entryways/exits are way too many for my taste. Now people are moving OUT of Sugarland and going even farther to Richmond/Rosenburg because of hatred for "The city (Houston)" moving in.Freeways = easy ways for the bad people to get in and outThat's why I like how The Woodlands was developed with circular passageways (and now many upscale neighborhoods are doing the same). At night (or day sometimes) if you don't know where you are going you will get lost!! Quote
klein Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 Get ready to call Willowbrook Mall, the gunbrook Mall Quote
TheNiche Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 I don't feel safe in Sugarland. It's entryways/exits are way too many for my taste. Now people are moving OUT of Sugarland and going even farther to Richmond/Rosenburg because of hatred for "The city (Houston)" moving in.I thought that it was sort of the other way around, given that homes in the Richmond/Rosenberg area tend to be less expensive than in Sugar Land. Quote
mrfootball Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 I thought that it was sort of the other way around, given that homes in the Richmond/Rosenberg area tend to be less expensive than in Sugar Land.Criminals like easy commutes as well. Quote
Mom22Blessings Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 Well if you look at some of the newer neighborhoods in the LCISD area (Greatwood/Bridlewood Estates), I would say those are nicer than most of the ones I've seen in Sugarland. It probably has to do with larger lot sizes also. Aren't there new areas popping up near George Ranch too? Quote
hbcu Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 why move when they'll still follow?one thing about it....people are greedy..if I can rent out my big hoke while living in my mega mansion...I'll do it regardless Quote
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