CSOM Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Public Hearing November 8 @ 2:30PM for a 64 Unit La Quinta Inn at Hwy 59 between McGowen & Dennis. This is on the 'other' side of 59/288 which seems to be a good signal on development, IMO. It also adds a much needed moderate priced hotel to the general DT vicinity, which is currently limited to the Holiday Inn Express and the Best Western on W. Dallas, which both still get rather pricey given the locations...http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=h&trf=0&...39545&mag=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drey00 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 i guess they wanna compete against the downtowner inn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midtownuser Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 when will this project be completed by? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodlife Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 This development is located on the east side of 59????? I saw the variance sign at the corner of 59 and McGowan so I am assuming that's the site. If so.... I like the "leap" of development to the east side of 59. This has got'ta be good for midtown in the long run and it's only a matter of time more development happens east of midtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 This has got'ta be good for midtownWhat does this have to do with Midtown? Isn't it going to be in the East End? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midtownuser Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 What does this have to do with Midtown? Isn't it going to be in the East End?are you kidding me? midtown wouldn't be ____ if it wasn't for the fact that it is surrounded by downtown, river oaks and montrose. the third ward border is midtown's weak point. so any development (i.e. townhomes, retail or hotels) is good by all means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSOM Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 What does this have to do with Midtown? Isn't it going to be in the East End?No, not really... it is right by where 288 & 59 split, just a few (6-8) blocks from Baldwin Park. It is on the East side of 59, but not what I would consider true East End... more traditional 3rd Ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chenevert Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 What does this have to do with Midtown? Isn't it going to be in the East End?The hotel is 1 block away from the Midtown border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Oh I see. I guess I missed the fact that it was near the 288/59 split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Oh I see. I guess I missed the fact that it was near the 288/59 split.You might have also been thrown off because Sarnoff at the Chronicle said there might be a LaQuinta built near Minute Maid Park a few weeks ago so when you heard East of 59, you thought East Side. I know I initially did too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yep that's exactly what I was thinking of. I thought I was just imagining that it was on the east end of downtown near Minute Maid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memebag Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 The hotel is 1 block away from the Midtown border.Where can one find a map of these borders? All of this Uptown/Midtown/East End nomenclature is unclear to me (and I've lived here for over 40 years). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) I guess Midtown is as they describe it here, although it's not really as much of a "pedestrian-oriented urban community" as they make it out to be (although it is more pedestrian-oriented than most parts of Houston I guess).I think of uptown as west of the 610 near the Galleria and Post Oak.I think of East End as the old Chinatown/warehouse area behind the convention center downtown extending East (not sure how far though). Edited November 8, 2007 by Jax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chenevert Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Where can one find a map of these borders? All of this Uptown/Midtown/East End nomenclature is unclear to me (and I've lived here for over 40 years).Most area's dont have such defined borders. Neartown for instance, I couldnt tell you the exact borders of.Midtown is a bit different. Since it was formed as a TIRZ (Tax something with an I Reinvestment Zone), it indeed has very defined borders. 59 happens to be the border to the east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSOM Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 I think of East End as the old Chinatown/warehouse area behind the convention center downtown extending East (not sure how far though).Right, but North of the Gulf Freeway... South of the Gulf is the 3rd Ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barracuda Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 This is good news, even though La Quinta is typically a suburban style hotel with a wrap-around parking lot. The east side of 59 is really lacking in new development, and this is better than the current vacant lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chenevert Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 This is good news, even though La Quinta is typically a suburban style hotel with a wrap-around parking lot. The east side of 59 is really lacking in new development, and this is better than the current vacant lot.normally true, but the one in downtown Austin is very tightly packed with no parking lot, only underground valet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSOM Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 (edited) normally true, but the one in downtown Austin is very tightly packed with no parking lot, only underground valet.But if our CVSs, Walgreens and branch banks are any indication... its parking lot will take up more space than than the actually building. Edited November 9, 2007 by CSOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chenevert Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 But if our CVSs, Walgreens and branch banks are any indication... its parking lot will take up more space than than the actually building.Agreed. However, currently it is a vacant lot with 3 feet high weeds and a chain link fence surrounding the property.If you want density, we gotta get rid of vacant lots first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey2 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Hope this hotel has good 24 hours security when it opens, because this is a extreme high crime area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodlife Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Hope this hotel has good 24 hours security when it opens, because this is a extreme high crime area.Back that with some data. Lots of crime everywhere. Not any more here or less than anywhere else. Check out the data http://www.ericcarlson.net/crimestats/By the way...This site just happens to be 1 block from the police station. Check it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Here's a better site for crime stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 This is good news, even though La Quinta is typically a suburban style hotel with a wrap-around parking lot. The east side of 59 is really lacking in new development, and this is better than the current vacant lot.how quickly we forget. after allison, many were complaining that greenspace is quickly dwindling because of new development which exacerbated the flooding situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 how quickly we forget. after allison, many were complaining that greenspace is quickly dwindling because of new development which exacerbated the flooding situation.I think people are refering to SUBURBAN developent as they get build up close, and personal to the various streams, bayous, and rivers that crisscross the area. Which is why some of the newer subdivisions are building retention ponds to help alleviate the flooding downstream.If you're going to get snarky, at least do it in a proper way. Downtown floods because of water UPSTREAM has no where to go. When it rains in HOUSTON, the water goes DOWNSTREAM and has no place to go except in to the various bayous and it's a relatively short run to the ship channel and Galveston bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Back that with some data. Lots of crime everywhere. Not any more here or less than anywhere else. Check out the data http://www.ericcarlson.net/crimestats/By the way...This site just happens to be 1 block from the police station. Check it outCrime stats only reflect where police reports have been filed. Poor black communities are not well known for filing police reports when there is a problem on account of three reasons: 1) they don't trust the cops, 2) the odds of getting the issue resolved are low, and 3) there's a certain level of crime that they're just used to. Contrast that to someone living in League City that'll call the cops if they just see a suspicious person walking around their neighborhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drey00 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 whatever the case, as a midtown resident, i'm happy to see new developments pushing the frontier further east...i like seeing the Edge and I like seeing this la quinta...I hope it's a La Quinta Suites variation, but beggars can't be choosers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodlife Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Crime stats only reflect where police reports have been filed. Poor black communities are not well known for filing police reports when there is a problem on account of three reasons: 1) they don't trust the cops, 2) the odds of getting the issue resolved are low, and 3) there's a certain level of crime that they're just used to. Contrast that to someone living in League City that'll call the cops if they just see a suspicious person walking around their neighborhood.Good try... But....Are you kidding me. The cops bust everyone WEST of 59 and no one EAST of 59. Check this link http://www.ericcarlson.net/crimestats/10H50.html Looks to me as if plenty of crime is being reported in the 3rd ward....just like everywhere else in the city. But, I don't see a whole lot of reported crime near the South Central Police Staion and this motel site...HUMMM ....Maybe the bad guys don't want to bee seen a block from the Police Station. So... I will concede I won't be walking my dog in the evening near that intersection (well maybe if I owned a pitbull I would) I do take exception to the original comment being..."an Extreme Crime Area" Just not true By the way....Its obvious where the crime is in midtown..... A very significant amount of it occurs along Main and Gray. It doesn't just magically disappear east of 59 but it does diminish near the police station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 I think people are refering to SUBURBAN developent as they get build up close, and personal to the various streams, bayous, and rivers that crisscross the area. Which is why some of the newer subdivisions are building retention ponds to help alleviate the flooding downstream.If you're going to get snarky, at least do it in a proper way. Downtown floods because of water UPSTREAM has no where to go. When it rains in HOUSTON, the water goes DOWNSTREAM and has no place to go except in to the various bayous and it's a relatively short run to the ship channel and Galveston bay.FYI EVERY place that floods does so because water has nowhere to go, from downtown to the suburbs as it did during allison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Good try... But....Are you kidding me. The cops bust everyone WEST of 59 and no one EAST of 59. Check this link http://www.ericcarlson.net/crimestats/10H50.html Looks to me as if plenty of crime is being reported in the 3rd ward....just like everywhere else in the city. But, I don't see a whole lot of reported crime near the South Central Police Staion and this motel site...HUMMM ....Maybe the bad guys don't want to bee seen a block from the Police Station. So... I will concede I won't be walking my dog in the evening near that intersection (well maybe if I owned a pitbull I would) I do take exception to the original comment being..."an Extreme Crime Area" Just not true By the way....Its obvious where the crime is in midtown..... A very significant amount of it occurs along Main and Gray. It doesn't just magically disappear east of 59 but it does diminish near the police station.That's probably because population density is lower just right along there. It isn't enough just to count the number of crimes committed. You've got to count crime per capita or some such similar measurement to get a better sense of how likely it is that any one person will be impacted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midtownuser Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 when will this project get started? i am pretty excited about it. should clean up the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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