SilverJK

Classy... remember your manic rant after the HDs got approved? I think you gave up all your rights on calling someone else out for not being classy that day.

I'll gladly put a REMOVE ELLIOT FROM THE HAHC sign in my front yard.

Why is that "actually interesting"? How do you know there isn't a connection between these people and the group that fought Walmart? If this development is soo bad (neighborhood dissatisfaction you claim.. when you actually mean a few neighbors dissastisfaction) why hasn't RUDH got behind it? One could infer that RUDH really only cared about stoping a Walmart, and not about "responsible urban development".

More like mostly serious, partly joking. I'm happy for Brie and I'm sure after her experience of dealing with this group that she will add a nice fresh view on these issues, and having a whole committe of level headed understanding people would be great. We'll see how things go from here. Its too bad that it will take many more level headed people to overcome the HAHCs current standing.

Can Disbanding the HAHC be your primary directive?

You really think Braun took a hit just to get Torchy's? GTFO, you don't actually think that. Your the one always using the pronoun game "we, they, eveyone" when you only can truly say "I" but you choose to call me out on stating they are getting the same money... REALLY?

You can repeat yourself as many times as you want... it won't make what your saying true... About the renting to Torchy's, here I'll use your style to make my argument... (read completely fabricated) The fact of the matter is that Torchy's is paying as much as a national chain, the majority of people know this.

They're not hipsters... they're "the kids". I bet the average record purcahser is over 35.

haha remember that time s3mh told us all about how "the kids" use records to make sounds. How can you possibly think the trinket stores are going to be sustainable? Do you really think they are going to steadily increase in sales? Braun passed on a national chain for a unique successful texas chain that is going to pay the same rent??? What a forward thinker!

Weird... I thought the whole purpose of the 19th street businesses supporting WLN was to help drive their businesses which need more people. You are so out of touch with reality it is amazing. If what 19th street was was so successful, then why did its most iconic store (Harrold's) have to close down? I know a few places on 19th street are only open because the owners don't care about money. One person I spoke with several years ago (who's shop has since closed) told me they had actually operated at a loss for the past year, but kept the store open because it gave them something to do. I have a feeling some of the other places are in a similar situation, eventually they will be priced out. I'm curious about the new "Green Painter" store. Their other store (New Living) does pretty well over near Rice Village... I think what we are seeing on 19th street is just a prolonged death of several stores and the eventual phasing in of new desirable stores/restaurants/bars/etc. Torchy's replacing Harrolds is a great example. I guess your still new here, there has been a ton of turnover on 19th, and at least 3-4 places had going out of business signs up in their windows for the longest time. (they eventually did go out of business).

If you replaced your old windows with new energy effecient insulated windows you probably wouldn't hear those trains anymore... Red maybe you'll know this better than me... (i've only been around for 7 years), but wasn't white linen nights started because 19th street was on the verge of drying up and dying (despite the turnaround the neighborhood was making). WLN is my favorite heights event... because everything on 19th (as well as other streets) stays open late.

won't we just be paying them back with their own money? (reminds me of a Teddy KGB moment in Rounders...)

yeah, the real enemy is the administration that hammered the Historic Districts through! wait... nevermind.

Langford Market is a good store. (my wife loves it). After having a discussion with someone from that company, they were telling me how they wish they could stay open later but can't justify it with the lack of foot traffic. There store in the French Quarter however... (actually they have two sister stores there) does stay open late and rakes in the money from people going for drinks/food. Not everyone that goes to the bars is getting wasted and passing out in the street... most of the stores still close around 11pm or midnight... just before the sloppy party drunks get going. A bar/club/music venue isn't only open for the closing at 2am which seems to be the complaint of some. A lot of bars enjoy success during the 7pm-12am window where you just drop in a for a few drinks. I would like to see a push for these smaller/more intimate bars and live music venues. I mean... where the hell can I get a good Martini around here? Downhouse is too pretentious and proud of themselves (some people like that).

*insert s3mh - Leonard high fiving each other* smh. Walmart and Ainbinder are not synonymous... but nobody seems to care about that.

Of the few retail places on White Oak... one of them is open after 6pm on weekends regularly. Heights Vinyl has been open at midnight when I skated by on my way to Onion Creek. Tea Houses never really caught on in Houston (why are there so many then???) Did you even live here when the Tea place was open? Your continual contradictions blow my mind... your complaining that 19th doesn't need evening destinations (other than Shade?) but anytime something is being built your the one saying (why isn't this mixed use, why isn't this pedestrian freindly). 19th Street NEEDS people. Having places to go will put people there. Your view of bars and music clubs is rediculously skewed. A nice bar (lets keep it Hipster and say a Gin Bar) would draw a certain type of crowd to the area... these are the same people that would likely impulse shop. How about a blues lounge with some good ole New Orleans Soul Blues being played... These are the things that would go well on 19th, but since nobody is there, it isn't worth taking the risk. Once a few more restaurants and regular bars open up and maybe some retail with a stronger draw after 6pm get established it will happen.

I remember discussing with the owners of the Tea place that used to be open on 19th... it was impossible to draw anyone in because the whole area was dead after 5-6. The name of the place escapes me at the moment (sweet tea?), but they had fantastic tea, and rather good chicken salad croissants. A few seasoned ladies dropping in for tea just wasn't enough to sustain a business. I have a plan for spot on 19th street, and i've been looking in to it for a while. The cost to do what I want shouldn't be much, but due to city regulations/dry zones/ chumps that will try to block it for no good reason, I haven't pulled the trigger yet (and sadly for the neighborhood and myself, likely won't). I'm also willing to bet the Heights Theatre was an active place at night back in the 30s...

Ohhh... only you get to decide on what's good for 19th street. As far as White oak goes... I lived near there about 6 years ago... between Fitz and Onion Creek, it was pretty crowded already, the new bars have added influx for sure, but not so much as anyone living nearby should be surprised. It was already crowded on most weekends (Fitz seemed to have more well known bands come through back then). Since I have a regular office job (as I suppose many others on this site do) I'm generally working until 7. 19th street is dead by then. I only get to enjoy 19th street on Saturday's and Sunday's. I'll try to use your approach method so maybe you will see the other side... Many people work passed the time 19th street shops close, many are not happy with the lack of nighlife. Many are saddened by the missed opporturnity for even an evening destination on 19th street. The last thing needed is another overpriced pretentious bar like Down House (ones all you need). I nice size jazz/blues bar would be awesome on 19th street.

Methinks you should re-read your own Topic Title...

The wavyness of the class and distortion increasese over the years. It causes an appearance of "flowing". I believe it has to do with the glass reacting to the weather changes over the years (I saw something about it on this old house). I thought s3mh was claiming that his/her window's do not have any signs of distortion/wavyness. If you would have read my second post that would have been obvious... Mark... thanks for posting that link that proves what I said... glass is not a liquid.

19th street is in a position to take off right now. Everything shuts down at like 6pm normally, but with the addition of Torchy's and a few of the other places, maybe it will actually be somewhere you can go and grab a bite even if you work until 7pm. I'd like to see the shops stay open later too... as far as the rest of the post... S3mh being S3mh. Alarmist post, indicating the entire church would be demolished... then blaming other people for not reading the article... I read the article because I didn't thing your post was accurate... reading the article confirmed what I had heard previously, that part of land was being sold and the main church would continue to operate normally.

btw, what i'm considering glass flow is not the same as Marksmu... the glass does not actually "flow" but due to the nature of the glass becomes more wavy and distorted. Glass is not a liquid, that is a myth.

If you can't see evidence of the glass flowing and your house is from the 20s, your even more clueless about historic homes that I previously thought. There are blatant signs on all of my orig. windows (i think there are 20), I can see through all of them just fine, but to say there is no evidence would be an outright lie. (btw, that "rumple" you are seeing is most likely a sign of flowing...)

I'm Slavic, Native American, Creole, and various anglo groups. Or as implied earlier... white devil.

assuming the other posters on here are white is quite racist. You are profiling the anonymous posters on the internet... At least the lady in question saw the assailants.