KimberlySayWhat Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 From Ken Hoffman's column:1. Sitka, Alaska (2,874)2. Juneau, Alaska (2716.7)3. Anchorage, Alaska (1697.2)4. Jacksonville, Fla. (757.7)5. Anaconda, Mont. (737)6. Butte-Silver Bow, Mont. (716.1)7. Willow, Alaska (684.8)8. Healy, Alaska (669)9. Oklahoma City (607.0)10. Houston (579.4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 From Ken Hoffman's column:1. Sitka, Alaska (2,874)Holy crap, 2,874 square miles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 And about 100 people live there . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Wow, a list about how bad our sprawl is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexAmerican_Moose Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 moo.....another list that makes us look bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 Nah, I like it. Big, big, BIG!! Houston's a monster. GRRRR! Keep growing! Whoo hoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F. Barnes Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 (edited) This site says the largest US city in area is Juneau, Alaska, which covers 3,108 square miles.Geo triviaJuneauCity (pop., 2000: 30,711), capital of Alaska, U.S. Located in southeastern Alaska, it was settled in 1880 when Joe Juneau and Richard Harris discovered gold nearby. Mining was important until the Alaska-Juneau gold mine closed in 1944. Juneau was made the state capital in 1959. Fishing, forestry, and government activities are important, as is tourism. In 1970 Juneau merged with Douglas, on an island across the channel, to form the largest U.S. city in area (3,108 sq mi [8,050 sq km]). And here tooGeography and climateJuneau is located at 58 Edited August 11, 2006 by Mark F. Barnes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 not sure what this means, but it is on the city's website"The Houston CMSA covers 8,778 square miles, an area slightly smaller than Massachusetts but larger than New Jersey.see complete post here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 not sure what this means, but it is on the city's website"The Houston CMSA covers 8,778 square miles, an area slightly smaller than Massachusetts but larger than New Jersey. see complete post here The CMSA stands for "Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area" and is now comprised of ten counties including Harris, Galveston, Brazoria, Fort Bend, Waller, Austin, Montgomery, San Jacinto, Liberty, and Chambers. Wow, a list about how bad our sprawl is! DFW's sprawl is more expansive than ours, yet the political boundaries of either Dallas or Fort Worth are very small compared to Houston's. That we have such a large population and expansive political boundaries is only an indication of how effectively we were able to annex until the moratrium was passed by the state. Sprawl is regional, not municipal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 so sprawl is good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 (edited) Houston is 620 sq miles, not 579.4.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houstonhttp://www.punjab.net/houston/ Edited August 13, 2006 by houstonsemipro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Houston is 620 sq miles, not 579.4.old numbers? ... 'cause honestly i had heard it was above 700 sq. miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 (edited) I never heard Houston was over 700 sq miles. That's the first. Besides, those not old numbers. Wikipedia always updating their system. Edited August 13, 2006 by houstonsemipro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 a google search on 'houston square miles' reveals sites stating anywhere from 550 - 620 ... there is room for error i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 a google search on 'houston square miles' reveals sites stating anywhere from 550 - 620 ... there is room for error i suppose.Well, both numbers are correct - See, part of the overall land measurement is water - The small value is land only! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Well, both numbers are correct - See, part of the overall land measurement is water - The small value is land only!either way, houston is one big a** city! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 so sprawl is good?I say it's great in terms of how Houston is as a big city. We're the only top 5 populated city on the top ten largest in area list. So to me, that would mean that even though we're in a highly populated area, we're getting more land and home-size for our money, and I like that. I went to my good friend's crib recently who's home is 3,500 sq. ft. and he bought it for $180,000. He also has a backyard that could fit his house with room to spare. Now, imagine how much that much space would have cost in NYC. Backyard not included.I would say that Alaska is a pretty unreasonable sprawl haven. Living in a city like Sitka, how far would you have to travel to go from point A to point B? And how big are the homes there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I say it's great in terms of how Houston is as a big city. We're the only top 5 populated city on the top ten largest in area list. So to me, that would mean that even though we're in a highly populated area, we're getting more land and home-size for our money, and I like that. I went to my good friend's crib recently who's home is 3,500 sq. ft. and he bought it for $180,000. He also has a backyard that could fit his house with room to spare. Now, imagine how much that much space would have cost in NYC. Backyard not included.I would say that Alaska is a pretty unreasonable sprawl haven. Living in a city like Sitka, how far would you have to travel to go from point A to point B? And how big are the homes there?yeah, and not just that, but what kinds of jobs pull people to those areas. houston has a relatively strong job market which is also a magnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssullivan Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 While it's technically correct to count those Alaska cities, the reason they are so large is that Alaska doesn't have the concept of counties in the same way we do here. Alaska uses a combined city/borough form of government, where a mayor and assembly govern both the city, and the larger surrounding region (borough), which in most cases is pretty sparsely populated. Alaska has 16 of these boroughs in the more populated areas of the state. The rest of the state has essentially no organized local government, but is divided into 11 census areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkmex Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 The CMSA stands for "Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area" and is now comprised of ten counties including Harris, Galveston, Brazoria, Fort Bend, Waller, Austin, Montgomery, San Jacinto, Liberty, and Chambers. Don't Stop there Houston, lets take Brazos County next there not that far away then Bryan-College Station can add about 160,000 people to Harris County but no... no.... continue until we take TEXAS!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternGulf Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 (edited) Does large city limits necessarily mean bad sprawl? I get a laugh when I hear people talk about how this city is too spread out based on the sole fact that the city is around 600 square miles. I would hear things like, "Houston is too large of a city for me to live in. It's 600 square miles for crying out loud." So what? Like someone cannot be confined to say 100 square miles of Houston if they wanted to just like someone can live their life confined to Atlanta's entire 130 square miles. Just because of piece of land 25 miles away from the CBD has Houston branded to it, should not mean anything. Edited August 29, 2006 by WesternGulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krix Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Does large city limits necessarily mean bad sprawl? I get a laugh when I hear people talk about how this city is too spread out based on the sole fact that the city is around 600 square miles. I would hear things like, "Houston is too large of a city for me to live in. It's 600 square miles for crying out loud." So what? Like someone cannot be confined to say 100 square miles of Houston if they wanted to just like someone can live their life confined to Atlanta's entire 130 square miles. Just because of piece of land 25 miles away from the CBD has Houston branded to it, should not mean anything.But that's not necessarily true. I mean if you live in one city, you're likely to have to go places all over town, even if not constantly. But there are certain things that are centralized (in my case, I resent the fact that there is only one Japanese grocery store in Houston, and it's so damn far away from where I live). And then some of your favorite shops may be quite far away from each other, making it difficult to visit them all in one shopping trip). But that said, I like driving in this city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Don't Stop there Houston, lets take Brazos County next there not that far away then Bryan-College Station can add about 160,000 people to Harris County but no... no.... continue until we take TEXAS!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternGulf Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 A centralized city is one thing, but when you hear statements like this from cities that are known for their edge cities and decentralization, but think they can comment because their city is smaller than Houston in land area, it gets annoying. When in Miami, it is a given to go way outside those 36 square miles for some people's basic "needs". Sometimes even in dense centralized San Francisco's 50 square miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 But that's not necessarily true. I mean if you live in one city, you're likely to have to go places all over town, even if not constantly. But there are certain things that are centralized (in my case, I resent the fact that there is only one Japanese grocery store in Houston, and it's so damn far away from where I live). And then some of your favorite shops may be quite far away from each other, making it difficult to visit them all in one shopping trip). But that said, I like driving in this city.And do you think that is not the case in a city such as Atlanta or Washington DC, both of which have very small central cities but mile upon mile of sprawl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Does large city limits necessarily mean bad sprawl? I get a laugh when I hear people talk about how this city is too spread out based on the sole fact that the city is around 600 square miles. I would hear things like, "Houston is too large of a city for me to live in. It's 600 square miles for crying out loud." So what? Like someone cannot be confined to say 100 square miles of Houston if they wanted to just like someone can live their life confined to Atlanta's entire 130 square miles. Just because of piece of land 25 miles away from the CBD has Houston branded to it, should not mean anything.Very astute, WG. Of course, some people think in terms of generalities and are prone to losing perspective. Just because Greenspoint or Clear Lake is part of the COH doesn't mean that I HAVE to go there for anything on a regular basis anymore than just because lower Staten Island is part of NYC someone from Jamaica, Queens has to go there on a regular basis. If like compact urban travel, live near the core of everything, which, in Houston, means the Loop.Problem solved. Suck it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonfella Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 I do not agree. Southeast Texas includes Houston, Sugar Land, Baytown, adjacent Beaumont and Lake Charles, LA and Bryan-College Station : 6 million folks. Now, that's our metropolis. Bring on your best and we'll see where we rank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I do not agree. Southeast Texas includes Houston, Sugar Land, Baytown, adjacent Beaumont and Lake Charles, LA and Bryan-College Station : 6 million folks. Now, that's our metropolis. Bring on your best and we'll see where we rank. I would think southeast Texas & southwest Louisiana includes more then 6 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonfella Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I would think southeast Texas & southwest Louisiana includes more then 6 million. Thanks Montrose: you are correct. I stand corrected. How about 6.36 million?? Reasonable, you betcha. We be #1 in Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlapper Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Houston is a world class city and is only "sprawling" because so many people want to live in and around it. I've never lived in Houston so I truly have an unbiased opinion and think that big doesn't mean bad. Every time that I've visited Houston I was extremely impressed with the sheer size and complexity of it. I hope Houston continues to grow because as long as it's growing it's prospering. Look at Chicago, another great American city, but more people leave Chicago every year than move there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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