Spencer Street Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 (edited) what's the point? never been accurate.http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/outl...hurricane.shtml Edited May 22, 2006 by Spencer Street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Well, the fact that they think most will hit the east coast and leave the Gulf alone is good news for on-going rebuilding. IMO if one or 2 good storms hit N.O. again, you might as well pack it in for them I think the levee will break again. Game Over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 what's the point? never been accurate.http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/outl...hurricane.shtml It's good for business at Sam's Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Street Posted May 22, 2006 Author Share Posted May 22, 2006 (edited) Well, the fact that they think most will hit the east coast and leave the Gulf alone is good news for on-going rebuilding. IMO if one or 2 good storms hit N.O. again, you might as well pack it in for them I think the levee will break again. Game Over. you think they told noaa to say that most of the storms are going to miss gulf coast so that more poepole would come back to new orleans? hmm.. maybe... It's good for business at Sam's Club. ha! Edited May 22, 2006 by Spencer Street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 (edited) you think they told noaa to say that most of the storms are going to miss gulf coast so that more poepole come back to new orleans? hmm.. maybe...ha! Nah, I don't think NOAA gives a rat's patootey about N.O. This is weather, and they are just looking at patterns throughout the years. We'll probably get crushed this year. Edited May 27, 2008 by TJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marty Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 what's the point? never been accurate.http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/outl...hurricane.shtmlThey were off this year but don't ever let your guard down. How does that old saying go? A flap from a Butterfly's wing can change the weather on the other side of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 They were off this year but don't ever let your guard down. How does that old saying go? A flap from a Butterfly's wing can change the weather on the other side of the world.Yeah, that's chaos theory. But the popularized phrase is meaningless. Although counterintuitive, the end result of chaotic inputs is often statistically-predictable order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 I think I heard 16 named storms this year. Now last year was a bust.What do you think the odds are that we'll see a storm this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 I think I heard 16 named storms this year. Now last year was a bust.What do you think the odds are that we'll see a storm this year?The last four years were busts. Maybe more, but I've only been paying attention for four. The predictions are always way off and get revised several times as the year progresses and they're STILL not even close. Meteorology isn't an exact science. It's closer to an art at this point. All anyone can do is prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 The last four years were busts. Maybe more, but I've only been paying attention for four. The predictions are always way off and get revised several times as the year progresses and they're STILL not even close. Meteorology isn't an exact science. It's closer to an art at this point. All anyone can do is prepare for the worst and hope for the best.Yeah. The thing that worries me are all of these early season tornadoes. Wonder if that is an indicator of things to come in the Atlantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 1983 was one of the slowest hurricane seasons on record, but we got hit first anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Yeah. The thing that worries me are all of these early season tornadoes. Wonder if that is an indicator of things to come in the Atlantic.That's funny, because I was thinking just yesterday how late tornado season is starting. But then my focus (Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Missouri) is probably different than yours (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Colorado).If I remember my tornado training correctly, the worst time for tornadoes in the upper Midwest is March/April. There have been hardly any this year. In fact, I think there might not have been any in that time frame. Spring has been brutal this year in the North. We still had temperatures in the 30's last week. We should be pushing 80 on a daily basis around now. Freakin' global warming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Maybe we're watching different news. Seems like every morning there is a report of tornadoes somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Tornado season for the Upper Midwest does not begin until the jetstream shifts northward, allowing warm moist Gulf air to move northward, where it collides with cold dry air from Canada. Peak tornado season is March to May in the South, and during the summer in the Upper Midwest. The 2008 tornado season is on pace to be the most active in history.Freakin' global warming, indeed.2008 NOAA Tornado Graph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Mmmmmm.http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=522276 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Actually, Gary, I was not blaming this year's record tornado activity on climate change. Far from it. In fact, I have no idea. I was merely making light of the swipe at climate change based on faulty memory and faulty data.More faulty memory. It has indeed reached the 30s at Chicago's Midway Airport in May. It reached 39.9 degrees between the hours of 4:00 am and 6:00 am on May 4.http://www.wunderground.com/history/airpor...hlyHistory.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westguy Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Last year was a bust? We had 17 storms, including both a tropical storm and a hurricane hitting the Houston area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 The last four years were busts. Maybe more, but I've only been paying attention for four. The predictions are always way off and get revised several times as the year progresses and they're STILL not even close. Meteorology isn't an exact science. It's closer to an art at this point. All anyone can do is prepare for the worst and hope for the best.Predictions of a dire hurricane season are one of those predictable annual news nuggets, like that groundhog in PA or UFO stories around Halloween. News like nature abhors a vacuum, and things like this exist to take up space and give people something to chat about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 You think maybe The Weather Channel throws a few bucks at 'em to bump up the numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 what's the point? never been accurate.Oil exploration isn't always accurate, either.What's the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDeb Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 You think maybe The Weather Channel throws a few bucks at 'em to bump up the numbers? Or insurance companies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 1983 was one of the slowest hurricane seasons on record, but we got hit first anyway.Alicia's eye went right over Montrose and Downtown. I remember going outside during the calm to let a dog in that had gotten loose. After a few minutes, the storm started up again, with wind from the opposite direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Alicia's eye went right over Montrose and Downtown. I remember going outside during the calm to let a dog in that had gotten loose. After a few minutes, the storm started up again, with wind from the opposite direction.rsb my friend, the eye went right through Katy to Baytown, that's how big it was. That was a Cat.3 Hurricane that obliterated parts of Baytown with it's storm surge. I would hate to see what a Perfect Cat.5 would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 You think maybe The Weather Channel throws a few bucks at 'em to bump up the numbers?No, but look at it this way: If you were in the hurricane prediction biz, and that was your big burst of publicity each year, wouldn't you tend to over-estimate instead of under-estimate the risk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 No, but look at it this way: If you were in the hurricane prediction biz, and that was your big burst of publicity each year, wouldn't you tend to over-estimate instead of under-estimate the risk?Sure. I don't think there is any conspiracy here. They badly underestimated the freak 2005 season, so they erred on the side of caution in 2006. Even if the predictions are off, it does draw attention to the start of hurrican season, and importantly for the forecasters, themselves and their institution. And no one needs an explanation why the news media makes a big deal of the predictions. That is the business they are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 rsb my friend, the eye went right through Katy to Baytown, that's how big it was. That was a Cat.3 Hurricane that obliterated parts of Baytown with it's storm surge. I would hate to see what a Perfect Cat.5 would do.Okay, the center of the storm went directly over the inner city. Baytown was on the dirty side and suffered damage. The west side of town did not suffer badly. I know this because I moved to my parent's due to the lack of electricity in town for over a week. Why is it alway hot as hell after a hurricane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDeb Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Why is it alway hot as hell after a hurricane?Because they generally happen in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Because they generally happen in the summer. Smarty pants! I've been through many, many hurricanes and it always seems hotter a day after the storm than it was the day before the storm. Maybe it's the humidity because everything is soaked and evaporating. Maybe because you're outside laboring to clean up. Not having electricity is a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDeb Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Smarty pants! I've been through many, many hurricanes and it always seems hotter a day after the storm than it was the day before the storm. Maybe it's the humidity because everything is soaked and evaporating. Maybe because you're outside laboring to clean up. Not having electricity is a given. I agree with your sentiment. It DOES seem hotter the day after a hurricane, but I think it's perception caused by working all day long cleaning up with no A/C refuge to retreat to. I remember cleaning up after Lili in Louisiana in 2002 and driving around in our car to get some air conditioning to cool off (and go to Sonic, which had electricity, for some ice cream). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Okay, the center of the storm went directly over the inner city. Baytown was on the dirty side and suffered damage. The west side of town did not suffer badly. I know this because I moved to my parent's due to the lack of electricity in town for over a week. Why is it alway hot as hell after a hurricane?The hurricane made landfall on the western end of Galveston. I believe it tracked along Highway 6. As it passed through Houston, it generally ran between Highway 6 and Beltway 8, even though the eye covered a large section of the city.I'll look for an article to support my belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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