margokorin Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Is it a cheerleader or a Spartan? Should that really matter? http://jezebel.com/5375404/nothing-says-school-spirit-like-performing-obscene-acts-on-a-cheerleaderThis kind of stuff was all over my highschool in the mid 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Is it a cheerleader or a Spartan? Should that really matter? http://jezebel.com/5...n-a-cheerleaderThis kind of stuff was all over my highschool in the mid 90s.Those Jezebel posters should be more upset about the crappy amatuerish quality of the drawing than what the drawing depicts. It looks like a six year old designed that shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Is it a cheerleader or a Spartan? Should that really matter? http://jezebel.com/5375404/nothing-says-school-spirit-like-performing-obscene-acts-on-a-cheerleaderThis kind of stuff was all over my highschool in the mid 90s.I went to Stratford and I can't imagine this going well once they find the creators. Funny, but at the same time, not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I'm hostile to misogyny but a zealous advocate for free speech. I shall have to think about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I'm hostile to misogyny but a zealous advocate for free speech. I shall have to think about this one.So, which local new channel is going to pick this up. I predict, KRIV, they love trash like this.Looks like the Memorial/Stratford football game is on 10/23.Update: Well, the Houston Press picked it up.It might not be ready for the early evening new, but I bet it will show up for the night news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margokorin Posted October 6, 2009 Author Share Posted October 6, 2009 I Scooped them all!!!! Go haif! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 So, which local new channel is going to pick this up. I predict, KRIV, they love trash like this.Looks like the Memorial/Stratford football game is on 10/23.Update: Well, the Houston Press picked it up.It might not be ready for the early evening new, but I bet it will show up for the night news.The Press story is linked in the Jezebel story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margokorin Posted October 6, 2009 Author Share Posted October 6, 2009 Just checked the time on the press post. I didnt scoop anyone. Booo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Those Jezebel posters should be more upset about the crappy amatuerish quality of the drawing than what the drawing depicts. It looks like a six year old designed that shirt.Seriously? You think a poor quality drawing is a bigger problem than a shirt intended for minors to wear depicting a sex act? I think you should reexamine your priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Seriously? You think a poor quality drawing is a bigger problem than a shirt intended for minors to wear depicting a sex act? I think you should reexamine your priorities.Is it intended for minors to wear, or were seniors selling it to each other? Sure I guess a few seniors might be 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Just checked the time on the press post. I didnt scoop anyone. Booo...You are still an early scooper in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Yeah, the Press tweeted it to me and I was reading the Press article before your thread here, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Seriously? You think a poor quality drawing is a bigger problem than a shirt intended for minors to wear depicting a sex act? I think you should reexamine your priorities. Thankfully it was not anymore detailed than it already was. But in his defense, it is a pretty crudely drawn picture. Nothing is in proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Thankfully it was not anymore detailed than it already was. But in his defense, it is a pretty crudely drawn picture. Nothing is in proportion. Yeah, it was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 KPRC picked it up tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 KPRC picked it up tonight.This is one of those stories where when I was a producer I would have pretended to be a "team player" and offered it to another show, pretending I wanted it for mine.Can't show the shirt.Lots of minors involved.School district likely won't have any interesting bites.Affects very few people.Really, mostly it's just titalation and shock value, and then without being able to show the shirt, there's not even that.Glad I don't have to be in those situations anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I think that the T-shirt is pretty funny, actually. I wish that my peers had had that kind of imagination back in High School.And I don't see it as necessarily misogynistic. I think that it would've been funnier and more effective as a propaganda piece if it'd been a guy in the opposing team's football jersey instead of a cheerleader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I think that the T-shirt is pretty funny, actually. I wish that my peers had had that kind of imagination back in High School.And I don't see it as necessarily misogynistic. I think that it would've been funnier and more effective as a propaganda piece if it'd been a guy in the opposing team's football jersey instead of a cheerleader.I'm glad someone else found it funny too. I happen to find tasteless humor endlessly hilarious. Finding a reason to laugh at something appalling doesn't need to imply that we are misogynists, just that we don't take life too seriously. Then again, my wife and I tend to laugh at each others' farts (especially when we both blame the dog simultaneously), so my tastes in humor can probably be discounted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 This is one of those stories where when I was a producer I would have pretended to be a "team player" and offered it to another show, pretending I wanted it for mine.Can't show the shirt.Lots of minors involved.School district likely won't have any interesting bites.Affects very few people.Really, mostly it's just titalation and shock value, and then without being able to show the shirt, there's not even that.Glad I don't have to be in those situations anymore.KRIV showed the Mustangs but blurred the Spartan cheerleader in between.They essentially showed a screen shot of the feminist website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Its the top headline this morning on Click2Houstonhttp://www.click2houston.com/news/21225374/detail.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadooga Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Argh, this is completely misgoynistic and not funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Argh, this is completely misgoynistic and not funny.I can understand someone not finding this funny. Humor is not a universal characteristic. But would someone please explain to me how this is misogynistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I can understand someone not finding this funny. Humor is not a universal characteristic. But would someone please explain to me how this is misogynistic?Having sex with their women is intended to be depicted as a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Having sex with their women is intended to be depicted as a victory.I would have considered that a victory when I was a teenager. Hell, any woman would have been a victory in those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Its the top headline this morning on Click2Houstonhttp://www.click2houston.com/news/21225374/detail.htmlAnd Dominique graduated from Memorial High School too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Having sex with their women is intended to be depicted as a victory.The intent of this depiction was to utilize fantasy and shocking humor to evoke an unjustifiably prideful response in one's organization. How does that equate to a hatred of women?Say that you have two middle schools. One's mascot is a Bear, the other is a Warrior (i.e. native american). You'd expect that at any given football game between the two, you're going to see a banner somewhere in the former middle school that reads "Maul the Warriors" or some such vapid yet aggressive statement. Do you think that any of the middle schoolers are going to take the suggestion to heart and actually make a point of biting Native Nmericans when they are encountered? Do you think that that banner exhibits hatred against Native Americans, and if so, how is that hatred manifested in such a way as might cause Native Americans to care?In my eyes, a cheap unimaginative banner at a middle school such as I described and this vulgar and obscene (but still funny and ultimately innocuous) T-shirt serve the same purpose, with the only difference being that high schoolers have a better developed sense of imagination, better artistic skills, and more resources at their disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 The intent of this depiction was to utilize fantasy and shocking humor to evoke an unjustifiably prideful response in one's organization. How does that equate to a hatred of women?Say that you have two middle schools. One's mascot is a Bear, the other is a Warrior (i.e. native american). You'd expect that at any given football game between the two, you're going to see a banner somewhere in the former middle school that reads "Maul the Warriors" or some such vapid yet aggressive statement. Do you think that any of the middle schoolers are going to take the suggestion to heart and actually make a point of biting Native Nmericans when they are encountered? Do you think that that banner exhibits hatred against Native Americans, and if so, how is that hatred manifested in such a way as might cause Native Americans to care?In my eyes, a cheap unimaginative banner at a middle school such as I described and this vulgar and obscene (but still funny and ultimately innocuous) T-shirt serve the same purpose, with the only difference being that high schoolers have a better developed sense of imagination, better artistic skills, and more resources at their disposal.Now I've got the image of a bunch of 12 year olds chewing on some shocked American Indians stuck in my head. If only Running Bear and Tonto had known not to go to that pep rally... It's a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livincinco Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 The intent of this depiction was to utilize fantasy and shocking humor to evoke an unjustifiably prideful response in one's organization. How does that equate to a hatred of women?In my eyes, a cheap unimaginative banner at a middle school such as I described and this vulgar and obscene (but still funny and ultimately innocuous) T-shirt serve the same purpose, with the only difference being that high schoolers have a better developed sense of imagination, better artistic skills, and more resources hormones at their disposal.Minor edit to your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Minor edit to your postI'm pretty sure that if you teach a 3rd grade kid that some aspect of carnal knowledge is considered "bad", they're going to take your word for it and start using it as an insult against other kids on the playground. At least, that's how I remember things working at my elementary school (not that any of the kids actually understood the processes involved in what they were saying). So, no, I don't think it has to do with hormones so much.I think that more than anything, this t-shirt is just another form of creative pomp and ridicule, characteristic of youth. I doubt that most people involved would actually want to inflict a threesome with two male horses upon a girl, even if it were realistically possible. (And this essentially harmless obnoxiousness is only typical of males, btw; I think that females commit far deeper and more lasting emotional wounds against their peers, but nobody ever complains about it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I'm pretty sure that if you teach a 3rd grade kid that some aspect of carnal knowledge is considered "bad", they're going to take your word for it and start using it as an insult against other kids on the playground. At least, that's how I remember things working at my elementary school (not that any of the kids actually understood the processes involved in what they were saying). So, no, I don't think it has to do with hormones so much.I think that more than anything, this t-shirt is just another form of creative pomp and ridicule, characteristic of youth. I doubt that most people involved would actually want to inflict a threesome with two male horses upon a girl, even if it were realistically possible. (And this essentially harmless obnoxiousness is only typical of males, btw; I think that females commit far deeper and more lasting emotional wounds against their peers, but nobody ever complains about it.)Misogynistic hyperbole results in more subtle incidents of misogyny, it encourages the behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.