Fringe Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 The rich college student gets a less severe punishment than the commonfolk, lovely.Nothing new. Our whole justice system, from parking tickets to capital murder is built on how much money you're willing to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Nothing new. Our whole justice system, from parking tickets to capital murder is built on how much money you're willing to spend. Hooray for free enterprise! Capitalism wins again!Or, maybe there were facts in the case we weren't privy to as armchair lawyers that exonerated her from the worst of the crimes, but we don't know that do we?BTW, she did get kicked out of Rice for this incident. A state college degree is rarely as valuable in terms of long-term earning potential as a degree from a prestigious private university like Rice. So, sure she got off with a slap on the wrist, but she also just screwed up her entire future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 she also just screwed up her entire future.You can say that again. I'll bet her parents are real proud of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Hooray for free enterprise! Capitalism wins again!Or, maybe there were facts in the case we weren't privy to as armchair lawyers that exonerated her from the worst of the crimes, but we don't know that do we?BTW, she did get kicked out of Rice for this incident. A state college degree is rarely as valuable in terms of long-term earning potential as a degree from a prestigious private university like Rice. So, sure she got off with a slap on the wrist, but she also just screwed up her entire future. Her "entire future" being "screwed up" pales in comparison to the trouble the others will have in life with a violent felony conviction on their record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 While I don't agree with the sentence, I'm sure they will screw up their probation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Her "entire future" being "screwed up" pales in comparison to the trouble the others will have in life with a violent felony conviction on their record.Yeah, but again, we don't know all the details of the case. If everyone's culpability was equal, then the others got a pretty rotten plea bargain. If the other three were the ones who committed all the actual beatings, and Barnett was nothing more than a witness to her poorly chosen friends' crimes, then justice was meted fairly. Then again, we don't know. Saying the sentencing was unfair and casting it as a battle between the rich and the poor is merely speculative.While I don't agree with the sentence, I'm sure they will screw up their probation.Why? Do you suppose these are inherently bad people incapable of growing into better people? Or, are you making a sharp criticism of our justice system and the flaws inherent in the entire concept of rehabilitation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Why? Do you suppose these are inherently bad people incapable of growing into better people? Or, are you making a sharp criticism of our justice system and the flaws inherent in the entire concept of rehabilitation?Depending on the nature of the offense, people will "generally" continue their behavior until they are caught again. In this case, a couple of them MIGHT have learned their lesson and gotten a talking to by their parents, but I doubt the others will be that bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Depending on the nature of the offense, people will "generally" continue their behavior until they are caught again. In this case, a couple of them MIGHT have learned their lesson and gotten a talking to by their parents, but I doubt the others will be that bright.What evidence do you have for this cynicism? Do you really think it's true just because someone does a bad thing they are inherently bad people? Ricco, I guarantee you've broken the law in your life. Are you a bad person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Depending on the nature of the offense, people will "generally" continue their behavior until they are caught again. In this case, a couple of them MIGHT have learned their lesson and gotten a talking to by their parents, but I doubt the others will be that bright.What evidence do you have for this cynicism? Do you really think it's true just because someone does a bad thing they are inherently bad people? Ricco, I guarantee you've broken the law in your life. Are you a bad person?I don't think that people that do a bad things are people that need a mental adjustment. Period. Whether or not this does make them fly straight is yet to be determined, but how many times have we seen people commit crime in their youth continue the pattern before they finally make the news?I've broken a few traffic laws in the past, but all were not intentional (except for that incident outside of Pecos, Texas...but that's a different story), but I have never zoomed down the Freeway at 90mph for thrills.Am I a bad person? That's not for me to say, but then again, ask anyone's opinion about anyone and you'll eventually get someone who doesn't like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 but how many times have we seen people commit crime in their youth continue the pattern before they finally make the news?A handful, but I'd venture to say they're the exception to the rule. Besides, there's no way to track that sort of data anyhow. All we can do is track the recidivism rate of people who get caught committing crimes, not all the people who commit crimes period, and certainly not ALL the people who commit crimes multiple times without getting caught. I think your critique should be directed at the institutions that are supposed to reform criminals but instead train them to be better criminals. Or, perhaps your criticisms should be leveled at the society that ostracizes individuals for their past errors, effectively making it impossible for them to get ahead by any means other than criminal means. Or, perhaps you should vent your ire against the reactive government which imposes ridiculous, heavy-handed and draconian laws that do little to make life better for us honest folk while increasing our tax burden by filling our jails with more and more people.Besides, your question can be worded oppositely: How many times have we seen people who've never previously committed a crime commit a heinous act that made the news? (This happens quite frequently - especially with serial murderers and white collar crimes.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Besides, your question can be worded oppositely: How many times have we seen people who've never previously committed a crime commit a heinous act that made the news? (This happens quite frequently - especially with serial murderers [...] Literally impossible. A killer's first kill isn't yet serial. A killer's second kill is serial, but is no longer someone who never previously committed a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Literally impossible. A killer's first kill isn't yet serial. A killer's second kill is serial, but is no longer someone who never previously committed a crime. But they weren't caught the first time. They wouldn't be serial murderers if they were caught and stopped after their first murder. So no, it's not impossible unless you're talking to the semantics police - in which case my verbal faux pas would probably be enough to place me on five years felony probation. And I'd probably get kicked out of Rice... or at least out of the Rice English Department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 If we don't have semantics what do we have? *crosses arms* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 If we don't have semantics what do we have? *crosses arms*It's verbal anarchy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Anti-Semantics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted August 30, 2010 Author Share Posted August 30, 2010 From Rice police:At approximately 6:45 this evening [saturday, August 28], two female students walking on the soft sidewalk along Rice Boulevard near Entrance 21 were struck by pellets from an air gun fired from an eastbound vehicle. Each student was struck once in the leg, but neither was seriously injured and did not require medical attention.The students described the vehicle as a gold, four-door Jeep with a six-digit Texas license plate, but the plate number is unknown. The shooter was one of four occupants in the vehicle. He was seated in the left rear passenger’s seat and was described as a white male, approximately 18 years of age. The weapon was described as a neon orange air rifle or handgun with an eight- inch barrel.The Rice University Police Department (RUPD) and neighboring police agencies conducted a search of the surrounding area, but neither the vehicle nor suspect has been located. If you see a vehicle or a person matching the description above, please contact RUPD 713-348-6000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 What is it with retards that get pleasure doing that? Would serve them right if police mistook their air gun for a real one and shot the cr_p out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Copycat Criminals at Rice?First, the MOB loses creativity. Then KTRU gets sold off. Now, even the coeds can't think of their own crimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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