RedScare Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Putting aside the fact that their is no consensus on what a "true consrvative" even is, it is amusing to watch the Republican candidates castigate one another for not being a "true conservative". If the true conservative cannot even win the Republican nomination, that pretty well means the Republican VOTERS either are not true conservatives, or they do not WANT a true conservative. The other side of this debate is that only 30% of the electorate would qualify as "true conservative" under ANY definition. A true conservative would get hammered in the general election. If John McCain is not a true conservative, than it seems to me that Republican voters are far more pragmatic than the GOP establishment. They'd rather nominate a candidate with a chance of winning the general election, than proudly declare their loser was true to GOP ideals. As for James Dobson...seriously...who gives a f***? (Yes, James, I used foul language while discussing you. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanS Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Putting aside the fact that their is no consensus on what a "true consrvative" even is, it is amusing to watch the Republican candidates castigate one another for not being a "true conservative". If the true conservative cannot even win the Republican nomination, that pretty well means the Republican VOTERS either are not true conservatives, or they do not WANT a true conservative.The other side of this debate is that only 30% of the electorate would qualify as "true conservative" under ANY definition. A true conservative would get hammered in the general election. If John McCain is not a true conservative, than it seems to me that Republican voters are far more pragmatic than the GOP establishment. They'd rather nominate a candidate with a chance of winning the general election, than proudly declare their loser was true to GOP ideals. As for James Dobson...seriously...who gives a f***? (Yes, James, I used foul language while discussing you. ) 100% agree. BINGO. The unfortunate thing, however, is that too many people see putting Scalia types on the Supreme Court as "pragmatic." That is disturbing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I just got back from the polls.I almost voted for Romney. I'd like to see him try and win a national election. He is very unelectable unlike McCain. That said, he is just too big of a twit. I couldn't do it.So, I grabbed the Democratic ballot. I was then tempted to vote for Kucinich because his name was still on the ballot and the man is genuine. Plus, he matched my beliefs more than the other Dems. But, I couldn't do it.Then, it became a choice between Obama and Clinton. Obama wins on the issue of the war. Hillary wins on healthcare (something has to be done other than for people to cry about Socialism while we all slowly DIE). Obama wins on being the outsider. Hillary wins on experience. I was really torn. In the end, I went with my heart and filled in the circle for Obama. I guess it came down to I just couldn't stand another 4 to 8 years of a Clinton. Think about, we'd have had a Bush or a Clinton in the White House in some capacity going back for 30 + years if Hillary wins two terms. We'd also have more of the same hateful nonsense that divides all of us.It'll be interesting to see what happens here in Mass. Hillary has Wellesley and Yale Law connections. Obama has Harvard Law behind him. From what I can see in downtown Boston and around the South End, Obama's supporters are out in force. There was a flier on my door. There was a flier on all windshields on my block. At about 3 pm, a truck with a loudspeaker was driving around the area blasting support for Obama. At the corner of Mass Ave and Columbus near the Orange Line T Stop, there was a cluster of Obama supporters waving banners and flags. I also saw several Obama stickers on shirts/sweaters/jackets today. I haven't seen ANYTHING or ANYONE supporting Hillary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 It'll be interesting to see what happens here in Mass.I had no idea you didn't live in Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternGulf Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I haven't seen ANYTHING or ANYONE supporting Hillary...Same here, but looks like she is taking California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDeb Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 They'd rather nominate a candidate with a chance of winning the general election, than proudly declare their loser was true to GOP ideals.A lesson the Democrats never learned. Anyone but John Kerry or Howard Dean could have beaten Bush in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 A lesson the Democrats never learned. Anyone but John Kerry or Howard Dean could have beaten Bush in 2004. Al Gore beat George Bush in 2000. (At least he thinks he did) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I thought this photo from the Chronicle was interesting. It was from their Politics section. It clearly shows who they thinks is gonna be the nominee for each party (hint: look at the size of Obama and McCain versus the others). I also heard that the Chronicle endorsed Obama and McCain yesterday, so not sure if this photo is before or after those endorsements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I think I am officially switching from Hillary to Obama... I am liking him more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 And oddly I think I am leaning to Clinton just to even out the score (I always like an underdog) and make it interesting.The interesting part will be what the superdelegates do. I hear that even if Obama or Clinton win every primary from here on out, even with an 80% lead over the other, neither will have enough delegate votes to clinch the nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I thought this photo from the Chronicle was interesting. It was from their Politics section. It clearly shows who they thinks is gonna be the nominee for each party (hint: look at the size of Obama and McCain versus the others).Ron Paul's bubble is bigger than Hillary's bubble. It is also situated atop the Obama and Huckabee bubbles. How do you read that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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