CoolBuddy06

The selected names doesn't sho the administrators as very smart. What happened to all the nice names with Houston in it? I voted for University of Southeast Texas. It's will give the least confusion. How in the world will people running from confusion select a name like Texas Southeast U when TSU is about 5 miles away?

There's a story that Penn Governor have them put in place when slower traffic on left lanes keep slowing him down. Texas needs those. But hey, I find traffic laws in Texas so lax compared to other states or other Texas laws.

Have them in Spanish too? You're shaking a bee's comb on that one. Other road signs are not in Spanish and your target audience obey them, those that want to.

This business venture seems to be running very much behind schedule. Wonder what the hold up is? Anyone hear anything?

Memorial Hermann website has a start date of Feb 09. It doesn't look like an actively updated info though.

The major constraint TMC has is space/land.

But LTAWACS said "outside the loop", not "in the suburbs."

He has no idea why anyone will live outside the loop, as opposed to inside the loop. In other words, he prefers inside the loop.

And I live in "The Westbury" (look under my name), therefore, I live in a suburb.

Sing that to musicman.

Looking at houstoncrimemaps.com is what made me think you were kidding. Outside the loop has more homicides than inside the loop. Especially Sharpstown.

Outside the loop is not a suburb to me, Sugar Land, Pearland, the Woodlands, Katy etc. is.

You're kidding, right?

Nope. Look at Houston crime map and similar maps for Houston suburbs.

I have no idea why anyone would live outside the loop. Ugh.

Because their kids have 70% less chance of getting shot?

Not gonna happen. They are wallowing like pigs in all the cash they are raking in on fees. Fees, fees, and more fees. Even though jet fuel, like gasoline, is cheap... they keep the fees.

Oh really. I just got got a 10% off AA coupon mailer last night. When did airlines turn to department stores? Just wait till people make their choices about summer vacation this year.

3. At least one chain restaurant will file for chapter 11.

So that's still inside the loop then right?

Is editor's "loop" not the I-10, I-45 and 59 polygon? what we call downtown?

I just grabbed these from har.com. Honestly, what would you call the neighborhood containing these houses? Urban, suburban or exurban?

Someone grab a pair of glasses and see the big picture. Westbury is a little suburb within the city, at best. It can't be lumped together with Sugar Land or the Woodlands, which are the kind of suburbs that most people here are talking about.

My personal belief is that cities and suburbs are both here to stay, and both have a lot of room for improvement. I'd rather focus on making both better than some kind of contest between them.

Finally, this thread did something good - it made mr. city to start posting. Welcome. And thankls a lot for articulating your points so logically. Now all the city-is-best-suburbanites-are-stupid HAIFers should stick this up their nose.

Southeast of Missouri City. South of Hwy 6, west of Almeda/521. BFE. They have gators!

Correct. A classic suburb. Getting a few strip centers now. If you work anywhere near or in the loop you'd have to use Fort Bend Tollroad, about 4 buck/day. If you head toward Sugar Land/Katy you'd deal with pain-in-the-ass lights on Hwy 6, and 59 traffic.

Predictions for 2009:

1. Everyone on Haif will lose weight and be in tip-top physical and mental shape.

2. Become even more popular than ever.

3. Look 15-20 years younger.

4. Win a huge amount of $.

Hey my BMI is boderline 19. Weight loss is unhealthy to me. Tip-top physical and mental shape is good.

Forget marriage or dating...

I want to see what an HAIF Presidential Administration would look like... Who would be President? Vice President? Secretary of State? Defense? Would all those people get along? Could we put aside our differences... and lead the country? What would close door cabinet meetings look and sound like? Would I be forced to mix it up with the likes of TJones, conservatives, inner loopers, and others?

What I'll like to see is a HAIFer run for mayor. S/he will be one of the best ever.

And I think that's all anyone here is asking for from the 288 redevelopment -- the preservation of some space for, or some other forethought put into, the addition of rail in the future.

No one's saying that 288 is packed as badly as other corridors which deserve rail. But what you have with 288 right now is a wide expanse of nearly virgin ground. It's important not to waste that opportunity by blacktopping the entire thing and thinking that's a long term solution. Most of the expense in building a rail system comes from land acquisition. This is a chance to do a little planning now so that in the future taxpayers won't have to cough up nearly as much money to build rail when the time comes.

FWIW, the train lines (two tracks) that run down the middle of I-90/I-94 in Chicago take up 43 feet of the right-of-way. Does anyone know how wide the 288 expansion would be? Could 43 feet be set aside for rail use in the future?

A July 1999 article on texasfreeway.com says it's 100 ft wide.

At what speed CB06 ? I will even be conservative and say traveling 10mph up to the light. Ok, go ahead and count one-one thousand.

Does that really seem like enough time for your ton and a half , eco-friendly, deathmachine to settle ? Now try counting the same way, but to three this time. Which makes more sense, and which one do you think the cop at the corner is looking for ?

oh you want to factor in the time it takes you to get to zero mph? I'm only talking about when your forward inertia stops and your car's rear end "rests". The time it takes you to stop is very, very variable. That's more than 3 secs, even at 10 mph.

The only traffic ticket I've ever gotten was in Houston, and it was for a red light (nighttime downpour downtown, first day with a new car, thought I might slide through if I tried to stop).

In driving school I was taught that cops look for your car to "settle" -- I don't remember the exact term for it. But it's when the back end of the car dips down a little when you stop. It's not something you can fake while rolling slowly, it only happens when you actually stop.

I think it takes way less than 2-3 seconds.

Right. I'd never heard this but you'll know when your car comes to a full stop when driving. The phenomenon called inertia in physics is what the cops are looking for. It takes 1 sec, no more than that, with a car.

Who else is at work?

I worked last Friday too

I worked on Christmas day...some people are sick in the hospital.

Do you guys really think suburbs are nonsense? Seriously? Ok let's go point-by-point...

The reason suburbs are successful is that developers have managed to convince people that the only criteria they should consider when buying a house is its size.

You forget about good schools, low crime, great place to raise kids, and in Houston suburbs, 5 - 10 minutes from every chain restaurant, a mall, a town center, swimming pool, tennis courts and soccer fields are all in the subdivision. They sure market more than size. Your city-centric eyes need to more attention.

This allows them to build large, cheap houses on small pieces of land far away from anything, and people will snap them up.

Why will a family of 4 buy a 1200 sf 1 bedroom in museum district or midtown for 250,000 when they can get a 2500 mcmansion in Pearland for 200, 000. If you'll do that then only one word describes you s-t-u-p-i-d.

The marketing is brilliant.

So is the marketing of your highrise condo.

Ever notice how the vast majority of suburban houses are two stories? More square footage on a smaller lot, more lots, more money for the developers-- but they'll tell you how "grand" the two story entry way is. Or they'll dig a ditch and fill it with water, build a house next to it and sell "waterfront" property. It's hilarious really.

Your last sentence sums up the rest of your post.

The Suburbs are great for some people but not me.

Why would anyone want to live in a house where the fifth house down is exactly the same?

In some cases all the houses, unfortunately...

No house is truly unique, you can try and for those of you who succeed ,praise to you.

The majority of people living there are white, no offense. Some suburbs are diverse but they're aren't many.

The burbs, to me are symbolic of a sameness, insipid bland , boring life.

Sure the houses look good, crime isn't high, most of the time good schools, but where is the excitement?!

Where is the mystery? Today ,there, is most likely alike as yesterday and tomorrow.

And if you live there, good for you. Maybe that's just your lifestyle, and maybe you see it in a different light.

When I signed up for our house to be built I know immediately that half the homes in our section is going to have that plan, but i don't care. It is simply a great plan for the space. There are 38 homes on my street, 19 built by my builder. 5/19 homes has my plan. I know because we were the first on the street. But why would that bother me. I love the suburbs for what it has to offer, listed by memebag above. Crowd, crime and cramped space for the money are about my top three reasons for not living inside the beltway. But we go there to enjoy life when we're hungry for it. Ever seen a parent with two wonderful kids who will forgo fine schools because of cookie-cutter homes?

Here are a few things to like about suburbs:

1. Longer distances between things, for those of us who like that.

2. Old, uninspired cookie-cutter architecture. Houston has suburbs from many different periods, going back 100 years or so.

3. Quiet.

4. Swimming pools.

5. Big houses.

6. Cheap land.

7. Great restaurants. Some of Houston's best restaurants are in far-flung strip centers.

8. Jobs. Houston's employment is spread all over.

One of the things that guides medical practice is 'risk-benefit' analysis. Doctors do whatever they do on you and prescribe whatever because its benefits outweigh the risks. same goes for people's choices. suburbs are great for some, and sucks for others. make your best choice and don't critisize others for making their best choice.

btw, Houston suburbs are fast becoming atypical with closer malls, fine dining, and proximal services. A nurse in Sugarland don't need to drive to Medical center to work in Methodist or go to the Galleria to shop at Macy's anymore. Why won't she and her husband choose to live there?

Reasons to hate the suburbs:

1. Longer distances between things

2. The "things" are all cookie-cutter strip centers with national chains, few authentic interesting places

3. Less history

4. New uninspired cookie-cutter architecture

5. "family people" i.e. PTA Nazis, ragin' soccer dads, crappy bars full of old boring men who smoke like chimneys and bad karaoke

I mean uh, what's to LIKE about the suburbs. Lower crime? Yeah, okay. Eyeroll.

Edit: Messed up, refer to #5.

Swimming in that lake is bad. Please let's stop it at that and let's not get personal. I live in surburbia Manvel and have visited the park twice. We dined downtown on one of those visits. My wife can't have enough of the park. By the way we lived in SW part for 3 years and never visited DT. Great to have something to cheer downtown apart from the Rockets.

This is in reply to MidtownCoog about swimming in the murky lake at Discovery Green. I will be checking on the very early threads to see if anyone here has underwent metamorphosis.

1)the dog shouldn't be roaming on your property. as for maiming, i wouldn't think that would be allowed for scaring someone however a bb/pellet gun could be helpful in preventing 1.

LOL

Whoever have that dog probably read this forum. haven't seen mounds on my lawn in about a month.