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Agree 100% and C2H made some good points too. No disrespect to The Niche and Attica Finch but you guys are being a little ridiculous.

Oh ok, that explains it!

I think i have to disagree with the last 2 posters. Why would we want Pearland to remain the same from 20 years ago? The Houston metro area is changing from the backwoods, backwater- hick area to a thriving area with affluent suburbs. It's called progress folks! I happen to like that area of Pearland and what its becoming. It's a very interesting part to the Houston metro area. So what, Pearland doesn't look like Angleton anymore. I consider that a good thing!

houston pavilions?

LOL at Dallas being connected to Phoneix, i don't think the map is quite drawn to scale. Look at the distance between Dallas and Atlanta. But for a better look at the keymap key, try this link for a larger view http://www.radicalcartography.net/subways_2.pdf

basded om the map that 713-214 posted, it appears that Houston is definitely not alone in having such a short transit system, abeit those cities are much smaller compared to Houston so that doesn't really say much.

Shoot, just move the park south of pearland!!! New Caney is too far from the City Center anyway!

i think i have to agree with citykid09 on this one. movie and film industry seems much more exciting than a agriculture center. That seems like a big waste of space. If you want an agricenter, there's plenty of open land outside of the Houston metro area for that.

how could you think this isn't a good idea? It will create a totally new industry to not only Houston but all of Texas. I'm so sick of cities like Austin and Dallas acting like they're the King cities in Texas. Austin almost had the opportunity to bring film to Texas but if this goes through, it will blow their plans out of the water. Like the article said, if Houston doesn't take up on this, Austin or Dallas will... and believe me they will do it.

Damn, sad news. I grew up on Michael

When is this supposed to get started again? because it seems as its still in its preliminary stages and been that way for the past 3-4 years.

I like the low humidity but it still feels like Vegas or Phoenix out there with the blazing hot sun. It seems that the air is crisper/cleaner in result of low humidity too.

People have thought i was crazy on this forum for comparing the two developments. Even in the old thread I started a few years back, people thought i was comparing apples and oranges. But HP is the retail component of all the developments going on downtown Houston's eastside. East downtown also has experienced stadium development, residential, restaurants, and etc just like Dallas Victory. I know people tend to think of HP as a small component compared to the collosial Victory but if alot of the individual components are similar. It's just Victory is a development that happened all at once which contains retail, residential, and stadium development while east downtown Houston has been building on slowly for the past 9-10 years. I'll illustrate: MM park stadium opened in 2000 Toyota Center opened in 2003 while AA Center opened in 2001 Inn at the Ballpark residences, OPP just like The Cirque, and other Victory residences. Shops @ Victory Plaza is comparable to HP Discovery Green will be just like the new deck park planned for Dallas. I know i already covered that in the old thread but it is some similarity. I just hope the poor inward design layout of H/P doesn't create a void to where the shops can't get noticed by foot traffic. I hope they still decide to do the Video Screen thing that was talked about once before in another thread. Oh and for anyone who's interested, here's a link to a recent article about the current Struggles of Victory Park. It talks about how the buildings in VP can be uninviting versus the buildings in West Village which are more humble. http://www.dmagazine.com/Home/2009/06/01/T...ctory_Park.aspx

me too. i hope the movie studio idea doesn't fall through. Why waste such a collosial centerpiece on something so minimal. A planetarium can be built anywhere, anytime.

I think people need to relax. Some of you all take this forum way too seriously like its your life! People who have lives probably will find that there's no need to stress and turn gray over what a stranger says on the internet! Unless you guys are getting paid which i'm sure not even the mods are!!! Now back on topic. (I'm playin mod now! )

You're agreeing with what i said in the opening post. LA LIVE is doing ok during this economy while Dallas Victory is struggling. And for those of you who are unfamiliar with the LA LIVE project. You can take a glance at it on their website. See link below. http://www.lalive.com/

I've read many articles about Victory Park basically almost Vacant now. They had 3-4 restaurants close back to back within the last 2 months and some more closures scheduled soon. Hillwood has actually surrendered the property to someone else. Not that i'm gloating or anything seeing how it was once referred to as the "Time Square of Texas", but i am really sorry to hear that its currently going under. A child could point out the obvious mistakes in this development First off the layout. The reasons stated for the closures in the reports were: The store fronts were too isolated, Parking was too expensive, Outrageous prices in the stores. The light rail line they extended out that way is in front of the AA Center. The Plaza sits behind the AA center and plus its in an inward development. Now what can developers learn from all of this. Los Angeles's LA LIVE Project and Dallas Victory were built close to the same time and intended to serve the same basic purpose. LA LIVE project from what i hear is doing OK and Victory is currently holding on for dear life. It's starting to make me a little frightful for Houston Pavilions. That development too faces inward and feels somewhat isolated too from the rest of the Pedestrian areas. Proper signage should help this problem. Even though H/P hasn't really taken off yet due to the economy, does it seem like the design layout could possibly cause a problem? Hope not.

I'm sure you already know this but jail populations don't count. At least to me! We're not going to see the jailers in their orange and blue jumpsuits walking around downtown enjoying life, spending money, and being patrons for retailers! If they're locked away from society, they're pretty much non-existant.

Last time i checked, the downtown population was a little over 4000, maybe 4500. It still has nothing on Uptown/Galleria population of 20,000.

Okay, sorry if this topic has been brought up before but i was driving down the Gulf Freeway/I-45 South yesterday. It looks like they're trying to slowly improve the area with the exception of the remaining billboards, crummy businesses, and rusty business signs. I noticed they've begun to pave the Freeway in the blacktop asphault like most cities do. Although i do think that it will ultimately raise the temperature in that part of town, i still think it looks better. Now for my main question, WHAT'S WITH THE PALM TREES? Is it just me or does it look like nearly all of them are not faring too well? It looks like most of them are dying and won't get much taller. I mean its been 5-7 years since they began planting them and i'm just not noticing much progress. Even the Palms at the Gulf Freeway/BW8 interchange are starting to look like they're not holding up. What could be the cause of this? Doesn't Houston have the same climate as Orlando FL to where its suitable for Palms? Could it be Houston's horrible air quality that's causing them to shrivel and die? Some answers or input would be appreciated

Sorry but i agree with citykid09. The plans to build rail on street level near the Galleria is equivalent to walking inside of a burning building. What makes no sense to me is that Houston can build millions of overpasses and such for a regular freeway but can't have a dedicated lane for a lightrail train off street level? I've always been a supporter of a subway line in Houston. There was a study done several years ago that stated it was feasible. The thing is, if they're not looking into subway, at least they could consider monorail a little further. The idea of lightrail should be to improve mobility for motorist and pedestrians, not add to the already existing problem.

dang this current economy is screwing us out of everything!!!

damn this bites megabytes. I knew this was going to happen because it was taking too long. HAIF Experts!!! How long could this thing potentially be on hold?