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I personally don't know how Chuy's stays open. Horrible.

Chuy's is open b/c of the cheap drinks. I went there once to meet a friend (left soon after) but first i ordered my drink, absolut neat. I got a HUGE goblet full of absolut for a measley 6 bucks. I was set for the night.

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Even though it's only been gone a short time, I miss the original Antone's on Taft. The chain Antone's pale in comparison to the original locations. I don't even know how many 'original' stores exist.

Attached are photos when my brother visited some years ago I think in 2007 and him with my father in front of Cardet's Cafe in the 70's.

Several from long ago in my childhood when we used to come to Houston to see my grandparents: -Kapan's on South Main at Kirby (where the Eckerd's is now), our usual Sunday after church lunch place -

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I really LOVED that drive-thru sushi place at the corner of Sage/Richmond Ave back in 1998-99 or such. (It's what Coffee Guy used to occupy later.)

They eventually moved to the Meyerland shopping center and became a Miyako's attachment called Little Miyako and was not quite the same anymore.

The teriyaki beef bowls at the old semi deco drive-thru while not being anything close to sumptuous or delicate like the actual Japanese way...were still really hearty meals in themselves. They just had a different taste.

And I liked the pretty and smiling girls that worked there...

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Does anybody around here remember Las Casuelas? The greatest Mexican food restaurant in Houston history? In a big old house at the corner of Fulton and Quitman out in the barrio on the near north side? I think it was even better than the original Ninfa's on Navigation.

Like Ninfa's, Las Casuelas catered to the Hispanic population of its neighborhood. They had the usual array of Tex-Mex stuff, and a lot of "real" Mexican food, the kind you get down in the interior of Mexico.

It was open 24 hours a day, and they often had live entertainment. My wife and I would often go in very early -- around sunup -- on Saturday or Sunday morning for a Mexican breakfast. Or stop off on the way home for margaritas late at night.

You know a Mexican restaurant is "great" when it's filled up with Hispanics at all hours of day and night. It was also something of a community center, with Mexican newspapers, magazines, records and tapes.

It closed sometime in the 70s, and I heard it was because it couldn't -- or wouldn't -- comply with the health code. It wasn't the "cleanest" restaurant in town, but damn the food and the atmosphere were great.

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There is a new store/warehouse place at the intersection of 18th/TC Jester/Ella - where K-Mart use to be. Some sort of Restaurant supply place.... anyone know anything about this?

Go to any restaurant supply store - ex: there's one on 34th near Ella - that stuff is everywhere!

Also, on the new place where the K-Mart used to be: It's a membership place - I think you need an affiliation with a registered restaurant or club. Mainly food items when I went by.

A couple of very nice restaurants, that I doubt any here would remember, were Hebert's (pronounced A-bear's) and the Green Parrot. I'm talking 40's - 50's time-frame. Hebert's was in an old house, built in 1904, and was located at the southeast corner of San Jacinto and McGowen. Hebert's food specialty was French, New Orleans style cooking, along with excellent steaks and fresh seafood prepared a variety of ways. The Green Parrot was also in an old house located a few blocks east of Almeda in the MacGregor/Riverside area. Its specialty was southern style, home-cooking. They served delicious fried chicken, cat fish, shrimp, meat loaf, etc., along with beans, green beans, turnip greens, and salads. Dessert fare was homemade pies and cakes.

I'm lucky enough to have gone to the Green Parrot with my parents before it closed. Thanks for mentioning its location. I was uncertain where it was. A very memorable place.

Does anyone remember a restaurant in The Galleria called "Shucker's", at least I think that's what it was called. The all you could eat boiled shrimpfor $5.99 was awesome, but you had to peel'em yourself. It was a nice little "sportsbar" type of place.

Yes. Are they gone? They and the restaurant across the hallway were run by The Houston Oaks Hotel - or whatever they're called now - the hotel on the front of the Galleria (westheimer)

I miss the Wine Press on West Gray and almost across the street Captian Johnny's- now the Pier one location.

But does anyone remember a burger place on Richmond or Alabama just west of Montrose that had a drive through window and a very psychedelic in style. Maybe mushroom was in the name?

If you know the name, please post.

I'm having to work at remembering the name. The one I'm thinking of was just east of Montrose on W. Alabama, had cheese sauces for the hamburgers instead of cheese, served beer? I'll post again if I remember.

it never is as good as you remember. Antones is another place that was magical as a kid but now just tastes OK.

Try the Antone's in the Village. They employ one of the original employees and the sandwiches are as good as you remember - ask for extra chow-chow.

Furrs Cafeteria, Wyatts Cafeteria, Picadilly Cafeteria, Allbritton Cafeteria.

Guess the cafeteria market kind of died out, huh? Even Luby's has closed many of their locations.

There are plenty of those all you can eat pig-out buffets around now to take up some of the slack, but I don't like those because I feel like I have to get my money's worth and usually end up overeating!

You might enjoy Cleburne's Cafeteria on Bissonett near Edloe - just down from Channel 13.

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Las Cazuelas on Wayside is now Mucho Mexico Los Molcajetes.

It has really good seafood like oysters and octupus and ceviche. :wub:

I remember years ago we used to go to Las Cazuelas after the bars closed, and it was just a great lively place to be. They used to run a bus service out of the parking lot whereby local immigrants could pay a small fee to go back across the border on the weekends. They never lacked for customers.

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Chuy's is open b/c of the cheap drinks. I went there once to meet a friend (left soon after) but first i ordered my drink, absolut neat. I got a HUGE goblet full of absolut for a measley 6 bucks. I was set for the night.

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You guys don't like Chuy's?? Well, to each his own I suppose. For me, Chuy's is one of my favorite Tex-Mex places. Now, before you call me a Yankee or acuse me of not knowing my Tex-Mex - let me say I'm a 3rd generation Houstonian who's been eatin' Tex-Mex since I was a kid. Heck, I was eatin' fajita's before most people had ever heard of 'em (late 70's early 80's). IMHO, Chuy's has some of the best beef fajita's around. ..and if I'm not getting the fajita's I'm getting the #2 combo - enchalada and Chili Rellino - YUMMM!! Oh, and if you haven't tried the creamy jalapeno salsa you are really missing out.

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Las Cazuelas was still open in the '80s -- I used to take dates there in high school. I remember once taking an eighth grade girl there when I was a freshman, and they served us all the Margaritas we could handle.

My mom was there in the '60s one time and she ordered a plate of nachos. She didn't order the huge cockroach that was on the plate, though, so she took them back to the cook. The cook grabbed the plate from her, snatched the roach and threw it in the trash, handed the plate back to mom, and went on with his business.

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You guys don't like Chuy's?? Well, to each his own I suppose. For me, Chuy's is one of my favorite Tex-Mex places. Now, before you call me a Yankee or acuse me of not knowing my Tex-Mex - let me say I'm a 3rd generation Houstonian who's been eatin' Tex-Mex since I was a kid. Heck, I was eatin' fajita's before most people had ever heard of 'em (late 70's early 80's). IMHO, Chuy's has some of the best beef fajita's around. ..and if I'm not getting the fajita's I'm getting the #2 combo - enchalada and Chili Rellino - YUMMM!! Oh, and if you haven't tried the creamy jalapeno salsa you are really missing out.

SunKing,

I couldn't agree more. I've lived in Houston (with a 5 year stint in College Station) my whole life. Chuy's is one of my favorites here in Houston and the #2 Combo is one of the 2 plates I choose most often. I also love the Southwestern Enchiladas with the fried egg on top. Some of their sauces give it a little more "Southwestern-Mex" feel, but everything I have tried has been good. My top choices for fajitas is Pappasitos (most tender meat) and Lupe Tortillas (lime marinated beef) which are very different, but both very good IMO.

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My top choices for fajitas is Pappasitos (most tender meat) and Lupe Tortillas (lime marinated beef) which are very different, but both very good IMO.

Oh yes, Pappasito's and Lupe Tortilla are also both very good (yet a wee bit expensive IMHO). ...and in an effort to get slightly back on topic - have you tried Cyclone Anaya's? They used to have a location on Durham & Washington that closed down many years ago. They have since opened up two new locations - one downtown (close to BW3) and another on Shepherd next to Jax. MMMM, mmmm, good!

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Oh yes, Pappasito's and Lupe Tortilla are also both very good (yet a wee bit expensive IMHO). ...and in an effort to get slightly back on topic - have you tried Cyclone Anaya's? They used to have a location on Durham & Washington that closed down many years ago. They have since opened up two new locations - one downtown (close to BW3) and another on Shepherd next to Jax. MMMM, mmmm, good!

Cyclone Anaya's was absolutely GREAT. They had a location on Richmond between Fondren and Gessner that I loved to go to. What a shame it closed.

There is a site on on Studemont near Washington that supposedly is owned by someone involved in the old Cyclone anaya's. I've been there once, it wasn't the same.

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SunKing,

I couldn't agree more. I've lived in Houston (with a 5 year stint in College Station) my whole life. Chuy's is one of my favorites here in Houston and the #2 Combo is one of the 2 plates I choose most often. I also love the Southwestern Enchiladas with the fried egg on top. Some of their sauces give it a little more "Southwestern-Mex" feel, but everything I have tried has been good. My top choices for fajitas is Pappasitos (most tender meat) and Lupe Tortillas (lime marinated beef) which are very different, but both very good IMO.

The rice and beans at these places are terrible. Ninfa's gets the nod in my book for their grilled items only.

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Oh, toll the bell for Guggie's! Their Pastrami was wonderful, the pickles passable, the only Knishes my NYC husband would eat in the hinterlands and real New York style fabulous Cheesecake (no crust or crumbs). And you could pick your own topping for the Cheesecake.

After we moved up here to North Texas, unable to find any edible Deli foods, I sent the alarm and money to Houston folks who were coming for a visit. I implored them to bring a C.A.R.E. package from Guggenheim's. They arrived empty handed, swearing they had rushed right over and found it closed. There was no joy in Arlington that day.

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Oh, toll the bell for Guggie's! Their Pastrami was wonderful, the pickles passable, the only Knishes my NYC husband would eat in the hinterlands and real New York style fabulous Cheesecake (no crust or crumbs). And you could pick your own topping for the Cheesecake.

After we moved up here to North Texas, unable to find any edible Deli foods, I sent the alarm and money to Houston folks who were coming for a visit. I implored them to bring a C.A.R.E. package from Guggenheim's. They arrived empty handed, swearing they had rushed right over and found it closed. There was no joy in Arlington that day.

The absolute best Ruben I ever had. And the Cheesecakes were to die for. Oh well no more!!!!!!!!!!! Ghulam Bombaywala, an immigrant from Pakistan started Guggenheims. 

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I thought Pappamia had the best pizza I ever had - that is until I ate at Colina's in The Heights. Pappamia had two locations - I-10 between West Belt and Gessner and Richmond near Hilcroft. Like other Pappas restaurants, the dishes were large, delicious and reasonably priced. Their Greek salad was the best around.

There used to be a good steak house on Shepherd near Pinemont called Ducho's. It was normally crowded, but it seemed to be known mainly by folks in the area.

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I thought Pappamia had the best pizza I ever had - that is until I ate at Colina's in The Heights. Pappamia had two locations - I-10 between West Belt and Gessner and Richmond near Hilcroft. Like other Pappas restaurants, the dishes were large, delicious and reasonably priced. Their Greek salad was the best around.

There used to be a good steak house on Shepherd near Pinemont called Ducho's. It was normally crowded, but it seemed to be known mainly by folks in the area.

Duchos is closed? The place had been there forever.

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I think Ducho's has been closed for over 10 years now. It was about 10 years ago that I went out to the meat market (B&W?) out that way, and I noticed they were no longer there.

I don't have a clue why Pappamia didn't make it given the quality of the food there.

I keep waiting for Pappas to open a Japanese restaurant. It would, of course, be called Pappasan!

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I think Ducho's has been closed for over 10 years now. It was about 10 years ago that I went out to the meat market (B&W?) out that way, and I noticed they were no longer there.

Ducho's has only been closed since February 2003 - the last year or so they were open, the expense of running the restaurant was apparently getting out of hand compared to the business they were doing, so Mr. Ducho decided to retire. The building was sold to some folks that converted it into a church.

Ducho's used to front right onto N. Shepherd, at Heidrich St., but at some point in the past they relocated to the building behind the one that currently faces Shepherd. This is why their large neon sign was right at Shepherd and Heidrich - it used to be in the parking lot of the original location. You may have been remembering the original location when you thought they were gone, but I thought the move happened longer than 10 years ago.

I really miss Ducho's - I used to go there with my parents when I was a kid, and many years later I rediscovered it after a very long absence. For the next couple of years until it closed, my wife and I ate there semi-regularly, and even reintroduced my parents to it as well. Can't begrudge Mr. Ducho's decision to close, though; he had a great run for 38 years, and I have to admit that in the restaurant's twilight days I rarely saw anything like the crowds I remember packed in there in the late 60s/early 70s - more often it would be just us and maybe a couple of other tables of diners.

Interesting trivia: "Ducho" is pronounced "DOO-ho", with a silent "c". Wonder how many people have pronounced it "DOO-cho" or "DUTCH-oh" over the years?

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Why would Pappamia close?

They Pappas Group does not have an italian restuarant in their portfolio now.

We have so many relatively good Italian restaurants that competition is more fierce. The few times i went there it was ok, not great.

Interesting trivia: "Ducho" is pronounced "DOO-ho", with a silent "c". Wonder how many people have pronounced it "DOO-cho" or "DUTCH-oh" over the years?

what nationality was the owner? in spanish the name makes you lose your appetite, maybe that's why the "c" sound was omitted.

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Wait.....it's coming back to me now. The fog is lifting. Yes, I remember now. I used to work for the people who owned Fat Ernie's in Allen Center. Ernie Criezis (sp) owned it with his wife Toni. They had the Bowery downtown and La Bastile, the nightclub. They also had Harlow's (remember, it stayed open after hours and had long lines for the deli style sandwiches?) and The Great Caurso, which was near Gessner and Westheimer. Also, Good Eats Cafe which was on Woodway. Ernie also had The Great Greek with his brother, Spiro. I destroyed many brain cells in those places. How 'bout the clubs that are no longer with us? Bogangles on Market Square. The Bismark. Texas Steak House with Boyce and Kramer. More brain cells gone...........what were we talking about?

Hey man, this is Chris Criezis, no kidding. They had built up quite an empire allright. My favorite was the Bastille, had plenty of chances to get in trouble there when I was a kid, I remember working the sandwich counter when I was like 14/ 15, and had all the beer, wine, and liquor I could ever want right in the walkin cooler (when my parents werent looking), and I would make enough money selling sandwiches directly to customers and pocketing the proceeds. Funniest thing was, they thought they were getting 'free' labor with me working the sandwich counter, what they didnt know didnt hurt them. And the chicks...ahh yes, man it was great to be a kid around then, I dont know what kid gets to live that kind of nightlife.

That was the life, at least for that time period. Ernie (my dad) passed away in 1996 and Toni Renee, supposedly is a recluse living off an island in France but I doubt she is still alive. They really breathed life into Houston and built up quite an empire while it lasted. I believe the Great Caruso is still standing, last owner was Spero, dont know if he still owns it or if its even still there.

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A couple of very nice restaurants, that I doubt any here would remember, were Hebert's (pronounced A-bear's) and the Green Parrot. I'm talking 40's - 50's time-frame. Hebert's was in an old house, built in 1904, and was located at the southeast corner of San Jacinto and McGowen. Hebert's food specialty was French, New Orleans style cooking, along with excellent steaks and fresh seafood prepared a variety of ways. The Green Parrot was also in an old house located a few blocks east of Almeda in the MacGregor/Riverside area. Its specialty was southern style, home-cooking. They served delicious fried chicken, cat fish, shrimp, meat loaf, etc., along with beans, green beans, turnip greens, and salads. Dessert fare was homemade pies and cakes.
Green Parrot:

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They were a popular restaurant out of Kansas City with a location there, St. Louis, and Houston.

Very famous for their fried chicken.

The Green Parrot in Houston was owned and run by Vera Fredericks and her sister. When the extension for 59 went in, they lost the property. They were famous for their congelled pear salad, french dressing and fried chicken. They sold the recipes to a Houston restauranteur who opened it up again out on Bellaire Blvd as well as the KC and St. Louis locations. This, too, closed. Ms Fredericks sister started doing the menu again in the late 70s twice a week at the restaurant in the River Oaks. A true Houston institution along with the Confederate House--whose menu was developed by Helen Corbett who went on to the Zodiac Room in Dallas at N-M, as well as Herman Brenner's steakhouse which is still in existence? Does anyone remember Pier 21 and Kapan's?

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If you like seafood AND are old enough, you might remember:

1. Jimmy Walkers (now Landry's in Kemah)

2. The San Jacinto Inn (near Battleship Texas)

3. Tomek's (we'll make the location a trivia question).

Tomek's was a steakhouse on Old Galveston Road (about where Loop 610 crosses over) and was in a log cabin type structure. The steaks were great and Mr. Tomek provided his own steak sauce in little pitchers(kind of like cream servers). His cousin or nephew was Pete Tomek who owned and operate Kaphan's on South Main and Kirby up until it closed. My family and relatives had many after church dinners there.

A few other restaurants now gone are:

The Las Vegas Inn on Telephone Road and Post Oak Road

Ship Ahoy on South Main

Youngblood's Fried Chicken(Numerous locations all over Texas)

Bertha's Mexican Restaurant(first in Pasadena,then South Main, McKinney(downtown)

and lastly on Montrose

Aunt Bea's Cafe on Broadway

The Clear Creek Inn in Kemah

Elliott's Steak House on Almeda

Manuel's Seafood on the Seawall at 61st St.

And many more....... my family ate our a lot.

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I used to frequent it alot when The Elliot Walter Band used to play there. My mother is really good friends with them. If you never heard of The Elliot Walter band, you have probably heard a song of their's though, it's called "Slime in the Ice Machine". Marvin Zindler's theme song. :lol:

I don't know if any of you guys know this, but Jerrel Elliott was killed a few years back in a freak accident in his home. My aunt and uncle were his close friends and neighbors. :(

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I don't know if any of you guys know this, but Jerrel Elliott was killed a few years back in a freak accident in his home. My aunt and uncle were his close friends and neighbors. :(

Wow! I had not thought about these guys in a long time. We used to go to the Steak and Ale on the Southwest freeway to see them all the time. It would have been in the late seventies and early eighties. At the time they were the Elliot, walter, and Bennet Band. I actually still have one of their albums that I bought back then 33rpm LP.

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What about Willie and Mike's Innovation? It was on Westheimer. I think that it was a Cajun place after that and now TexaDelphia, but I'm not totally sure. Anyway, the waitstaff dressed up as different characters (prisoners, cops, conctruction workers, etc.....) and the eating areas were "themed" (jail, etc....) I went there a couple of times and it was truly a neat experience. Any comments/corrections would be appreciated.

Also, there was a hamburger joint (mid 60's - - way back when) on South Post Oak just north of Anderson and south of W Fuqua. They had mini-hamburgers like White Castle, but I think they were round. Bun, meat and onion..............they were very good. Can't remember the name.

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[Never ate there, but if nothing else they should have saved the giant shrimp with six-shooters!

You can still see one of those shrimps in Richmond, Texas. Just before you cross the bridge going toward Houston there is one sitting off to the side in a parking lot of an abandoned restaurant. I keep meaning to take a picture of it before it's gone.

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I really LOVED that drive-thru sushi place at the corner of Sage/Richmond Ave back in 1998-99 or such. (It's what Coffee Guy used to occupy later.)

That place started out as a Flyers, a kind of Hamburger place back in the 80s. Then it was empty a while, Then the Sushi place, then Coffee Guy and now its a Smoothie King. Some place I have some pics of it right after it first opened. There were two or three of them around I think. There is another one left further down Richmond before Gessner in a parking lot. I always liked the original design of the buildings but now they have been chopped up and don't look like they used to.

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Not defunct per se, but I really miss the original 1923 James Coney Island on Walker & Main. The chili is still as good in the newer locations, but the faux 'retro' design makes me vomit. The original was the best! Why oh why did it have to close?
When I worked at Gulf Oil in '67-'68, James Coney Island was a mainstay for me. Coneys were 20
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Also, there was a hamburger joint (mid 60's - - way back when) on South Post Oak just north of Anderson and south of W Fuqua. They had mini-hamburgers like White Castle, but I think they were round. Bun, meat and onion..............they were very good. Can't remember the name.

In the mid-to-late 70s and maybe into the early 80s there was a place on Shepherd one block north of what was still the Alabama theater at that time called My-T-Bite or My-T-Byte that served the mini-burgers. Damn good ones, too. Maybe the same as the one on S. Post Oak? They also had a location at one time on Bissonnet @ Beechnut which is now an El Pupusodromo.

The place on Shepherd was originally a Toddle House and then an egg roll place (now closed but the building is still there).

I haven't had a good slider in Houston since My-T-Byte went out of business.

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Even though it's only been gone a short time, I miss the original Antone's on Taft. The chain Antone's pale in comparison to the original locations. I don't even know how many 'original' stores exist.

I also miss ZuZu, which was on Shepherd near Fairview. It was Mexican fast food and I remember a salsa bar or something... it was quaint with good food.

BEST HISTORICAL BARBECUE place in Houston was without doubt "The Lockwood Inn" on Lockwood Drive and 1-10 East near Denver Harbor area. Old Houstonions should recall. It was there since the late 1930's. They gathered people from all walks of life. Didn't matter what race/ethnicity whatever, we just loved it! My mom said they would gather there after coming from big-band dances in the swing era of Houston. Best and most delicious sliced beef sandwiches and most mouth watering links ever! Man we sure miss it burned to the ground appprox 1989? We nearly fell to the ground (tear in eye) when we heard the terrible news. A real, real, real Houston Icon. Forever gone! Booohoooohooo....

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When I lived in the Heights we hung out at Heights Pizzeria a lot. It was south of I-10 near the tracks. There was also a Cyclone Anaya on Durham that was great. There was another restaurant - the name escapes me - that was right next to the bayou on Heights Blvd immediately south of I-10.

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Barbecue restaurant near Hobby Airport

I remember back in the 60s and 70s there was a wonderful barbecue restaurant on Telephone Road, alongside the old part of Hobby Airport.

It served up some of the best BBQ I've ever had in this town. They had a BBQ po'boy unlike any I've ever seen. It was an unsliced half loaf of bread, hollowed-out and stuffed with chipped or sliced BBQ. My mouth is watering just remembering it.

I wish I could remember the name of that place.

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I remember back in the 60s and 70s there was a wonderful barbecue restaurant on Telephone Road, alongside the old part of Hobby Airport.

It served up some of the best BBQ I've ever had in this town. They had a BBQ po'boy unlike any I've ever seen. It was an unsliced half loaf of bread, hollowed-out and stuffed with chipped or sliced BBQ. My mouth is watering just remembering it.

I wish I could remember the name of that place.

Ranch House? Witht the big cow out front?

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That's the place. Thanks. I wuz going nuts trying to remember that name. It was out on Telephone Rd in that area behind and around the old airport terminal.

The place ended up burning down yrs ago. We saw the cow somewhere in houston while driving around.

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Ok need help again. My old man was trying to remind me of a restaurant he used to take me as a kid. It was on westheimer near bering where the pappadeux is now.

According to him, it had a circus theme, decorated with clowns and such. The restaurant served typical american fare, i of course always had a cheesburger. This would have been about 25 years ago. Anyone else recall? Thanks!

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Ok need help again. My old man was trying to remind me of a restaurant he used to take me as a kid. It was on westheimer near bering where the pappadeux is now.

According to him, it had a circus theme, decorated with clowns and such. The restaurant served typical american fare, i of course always had a cheesburger. This would have been about 25 years ago. Anyone else recall? Thanks!

circus circus?

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Ok need help again. My old man was trying to remind me of a restaurant he used to take me as a kid. It was on westheimer near bering where the pappadeux is now.

According to him, it had a circus theme, decorated with clowns and such. The restaurant served typical american fare, i of course always had a cheesburger. This would have been about 25 years ago. Anyone else recall? Thanks!

The restaurant was called Circus

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Does anybody remember the hamburger joint called "Hamburgers by Gourmet"? They had one on Kirby, I think around the place where Castle Dental/Shipleys Donuts are(on Kirby close to Sunset.) The Hamburgers by Gourmet there later became a fish and chips place. There was a Hamburgers by Gourmet on Alabama, that actually stayed in business I think until the late 80's early 90's. It's still a hamburger place. you can't miss it. It's in a little building shaped like a barrel. I'd REALLY LOVE to get the Hamburgers by Gourmet recipe for their hamburgers with the hickory smoked sauce. I tried e-mailing Ken Hoffman once for his fast food section in the CHronicle, but I didn't get a reply.

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There was a Hamburgers by Gourmet on Alabama, that actually stayed in business I think until the late 80's early 90's. It's still a hamburger place. you can't miss it. It's in a little building shaped like a barrel.

I think you're confusing two different places here - the building that housed Hamburgers by Gourmet on Alabama (at Yoakum, I believe) is long gone; the barrel-shaped burger joint is Lucky Burger, on Richmond at Mandell, and it is indeed still in business. I used to eat at the Alabama HBG regularly, as I lived only a few blocks away from it for most of the 80s. Wish they were still around.

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