TJones Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 no sev, he quoted my statement as if I were bragging about it. He has the gaul to say "spare me the orphan and widow drivel." Ok bigtex, where do you think the money goes then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 City takes steps to control on-street charitable solitications, but it doesn't address panhandling. City tightens rules on street solicitationThose collecting money for charity can't stand in lanes, mediansBy MATT STILESCopyright 2005 Houston Chronicle The City Council banned people Wednesday from standing on Houston medians to seek donations for charitable organizations, as part of broader regulations for such street-level solicitations.Among many changes, the measure prevents anyone from standing in the middle of streets or walking into traffic lanes to collect money.Charitable solicitors are still allowed to stand on curbs, sidewalks and shoulders — as long as they are within 40 feet of a traffic light and they don't step into the road to accept donations from motorists.The council vote, which came after a lengthy debate, didn't address the thorny legal issue of panhandling, which city lawyers say is difficult to prevent without violating free speech and equal protection rights.Link to Chronicle article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 yup, and from yesterday: http://www.click2houston.com/news/5484983/detail.htmlit will be a misdemeanor offense, but again, enforcement will be the issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeightsGuy Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Man, that new ordinance has as much teeth as my grandfather. Are we going to give every policeman out there a 20 page handbook so they can refer to it every time they see someone on a corner looking for money or donations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 i think dbigtex was referring to possible driving habits of possible owners of said decals who may think they have special priveleges, which would then be a manipulative form of charitable givingThank you. That's exactly what I was referring to. If someone doesn't understand what I'm saying, allow me to elaborate.I've lived in Houston for 25 years now. Suppose I've heard people make reference to The 100 Club four times a year during that time. That makes a hundred times.And every single time, it's the same thing: "I consider giving to The 100 Club as money well spent", or "Hell, it's a good investment", followed by a knowing smile, a little laugh, a wink. Always. Always.Sometimes people will even add, "If if saves me from one ticket, I'm still money ahead." Now, I've never seen anyone act that way about any other charitable contribution. "I gave to Jerry's Kids", (wink-wink). "I support breast cancer research, if you get my drift", (nudge-nudge). "I contribute to AMFAR",(tee-hee). No. Doesn't happen. See, it's commonly understood that a "100 Club" sticker might make the difference between speeding and not-quite speeding, between running a red light or too-close-to-call. It's just a little bit of extra insurance, if you will. Other words which might fit are extortion and bribery. However, if one points that out, suddenly people assume a morally superior attitude. "Oh!" they say,"So you don't care about the widowed and orphaned family members of the brave people who put their lives on the line every day so you can be safe!" In other words, I'm suddenly a complete heartless bastard because I don't like open bribery. Keep in mind that these are the same people who were wink-winking and nudge-nudging just a moment before. The pathetic part is that the stated goals of The 100 Club are admirable, and those who contribute for purely altruistic reasons are to be commended. Why besmirch our police officers, those who have lost spouses or parents, and those who generously support a worthy charity by allowing this sleazy fund-raising device? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 ^^^^Now you see, if you would put all this down in the beginning, I wouldn't have blown a gasket over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 TJones, you weren't blowing a gasket, apparently, you were being morally superior... (I'm guessing that includes me too.) Aren't bribes generally done in secret, hush-hush, etc? There's not a whole lot that's secret about having a 100 Club sticker on a car. Perhaps one can think of it as the free address labels you get in return for your donation to St. Jude or Jerry's Kids. Just another perk of donating to a great cause. Sure wish I knew what that felt like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Perhaps one can think of it as the free address labels you get in return for your donation to St. Jude or Jerry's Kids. Just another perk of donating to a great cause. Sure wish I knew what that felt like! So, you are saying that you DO use the sticker in hopes of convincing a police officer to violate his oath by not giving you the citation....in addition to your altruistic motives? That sure sounds a lot like bigtex' post. Specifically, this one: "See, it's commonly understood that a "100 Club" sticker might make the difference between speeding and not-quite speeding, between running a red light or too-close-to-call. It's just a little bit of extra insurance, if you will." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 It's called sarcasm.... If you read my other post in this thread it might make a little more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 So, you are saying that you DO use the sticker in hopes of convincing a police officer to violate his oath by not giving you the citation....in addition to your altruistic motives?That sure sounds a lot like bigtex' post. Specifically, this one: "See, it's commonly understood that a "100 Club" sticker might make the difference between speeding and not-quite speeding, between running a red light or too-close-to-call. It's just a little bit of extra insurance, if you will." Kinda like how lawyers do plea bargains all the time ain't it ? I try not to violate laws in the first place that would put me in a position of being morally corrupt . I don't expect to get out of a ticket for having the sticker. I do hope that it will show an officer that I support them and I won't be a dillweed and give attitude to him if I do get pulled over. Which is what the majority of people give them Let me make it clear though, I know full well that having a sticker can be the difference in a ticket sometimes, but it ain't all the time. I actually know enough officers that I might be able to call in a favor if I got a ticket, but I wouldn't rely on the sticker, or any connections I might have, getting me out of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 One of the places I worked in Houston had off-duty HPD cops for security. They said, yeah, having a sticker makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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