editor Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 METRO RECEIVES REFUND FROM SPANISH RAIL CAR VENDORMETRO has received a $14 million dollar refund from CAF, the Spanish rail car vendor.Last December, the agency reached a settlement with CAF USA, Inc. (a subsidiary of the Spanish firm Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles, S.A.) over two disputed contracts for construction of light-rail vehicles for METRO’s North and Southeast lines.“I want to thank CAF for the professional way in which they handled this process,” said METRO Chairman Gilbert Garcia. “These funds will help carry out the NEW METRO’s goals of delivering first-class transit services to our deserving customers. This is $14 million we can put toward our rail cars.Under that agreement, the contracts were canceled and CAF relinquished claim to any additional payments for unpaid work and lost profits – this, in addition to the $14 million refund.The Federal Transportation Administration (FTA) ruled last September that CAF and previous METRO management violated federal procurement law and Buy America requirements for the purchase of the rail cars. In order to move forward to secure the $900 million Full Funding Grant Agreement, the FTA said METRO must rebid the contract and follow its procurement process, including full compliance with the Buy America requirements.NEW METRO management acted quickly, restructuring the agency’s procurement process, which is currently under FTA review.“This underscores the progress made by the NEW METRO” said METRO’s President & CEO George Greanias. “From the beginning our focus has been, and will be, to create a stronger foundation for the agency based on clear goals, measurable objectives and transparency. We’re raising the bar.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) METRO RECEIVES REFUND FROM SPANISH RAIL CAR VENDORMETRO has received a $14 million dollar refund from CAF, the Spanish rail car vendor.Last December, the agency reached a settlement with CAF USA, Inc. (a subsidiary of the Spanish firm Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles, S.A.) over two disputed contracts for construction of light-rail vehicles for METRO’s North and Southeast lines.“I want to thank CAF for the professional way in which they handled this process,” said METRO Chairman Gilbert Garcia. “These funds will help carry out the NEW METRO’s goals of delivering first-class transit services to our deserving customers. This is $14 million we can put toward our rail cars.Under that agreement, the contracts were canceled and CAF relinquished claim to any additional payments for unpaid work and lost profits – this, in addition to the $14 million refund.The Federal Transportation Administration (FTA) ruled last September that CAF and previous METRO management violated federal procurement law and Buy America requirements for the purchase of the rail cars. In order to move forward to secure the $900 million Full Funding Grant Agreement, the FTA said METRO must rebid the contract and follow its procurement process, including full compliance with the Buy America requirements.NEW METRO management acted quickly, restructuring the agency’s procurement process, which is currently under FTA review.“This underscores the progress made by the NEW METRO” said METRO’s President & CEO George Greanias. “From the beginning our focus has been, and will be, to create a stronger foundation for the agency based on clear goals, measurable objectives and transparency. We’re raising the bar.”Good news, I guess - but how much did METRO pay CAF to begin with? Was it only $14 million? I cannot believe they cancelled such a lucrative contract without some compensation. How much did METRO lose on this deal? Edited February 23, 2011 by dbigtex56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHB2 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) editor's post is from the METRO blog, a "house organ" in the truest sense of the word and utterly unreliable, thus the positive spin on METRO's outrageous squandering of $168 MILLION taxpayer dollars since 2006 that "New" METRO is about to write off because Greanias says the money has been spent and there are ZERO assets to show for it. (And who knows how many more $ millions Frank Wilson and his Board wasted in the 3 years before that?)$42 MILLION of that went to CAF as partial payment for the illegal rail car procurement plan. You may remember we got ZERO CAF rail cars and the Feds shut down the $900 million LRT grant. CAF sent back $14 MILLION of the already-paid $42 MILLION.So what METRO meant to say is - CAF KEPT $28 MILLION of Houstonians' tax dollars and METRO got ZERO assets for that money, but at least CAF let METRO off the hook for $14 MILLION cash and no further billing or lawsuit.If you want to know what METRO is up to, the only Houston journalist turning over the rocks is Mike Reed at the Examiner. Here is a link to his article from last Saturday (the Chron finally reported this outrage today)http://www.yourhoust...1cc4c002e0.html Edited February 23, 2011 by IHB2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Metro is nothing but a money pit. Always has been and always will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What do we have to do to get those buffoons out of there and held accountable? We need to do this NOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Metro is nothing but a money pit. Always has been and always will be.Metro is supposed to make a profit?I think that would be a first for a public transportation system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What do we have to do to get those buffoons out of there and held accountable? We need to do this NOW.Isn't that one of the first thing the mayor did when she went into office. I wish George G. success in untangling Metro's mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Metro is supposed to make a profit?I think that would be a first for a public transportation system.Who said anything about a profit? Is it wrong to ask them to be responsible with taxpayers money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 All of management needs to be completely replace. ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowanome Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Does this mean they're going to bring rail cars to Washington Ave. again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Metro is nothing but a money pit. Always has been and always will be.(Sigh.) Yes. As is TXDOT and the Pentagon. Yet, no one seems to hold these agencies to the same level of scrutiny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHB2 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 (Sigh.) Yes. As is TXDOT and the Pentagon. Yet, no one seems to hold these agencies to the same level of scrutiny.At least TxDOT and the Pentagon have assets to show for their expenditures of vast amts of tax $.My point is that METRO is trying to spin $14 million it thought it had squandered but got back as a positive, when it has NO assets to show for spending $168 million tax $ ($182 million if you count the 14 mil they got back) since 2006. It has not layed 1 FOOT of LRT track even though we are now approaching the original promise date for opening the 1st new line.Greanias is forced to make this writeoff now b/c METRO has engaged in Enron-style accounting in addition to the graft and corrupt dealing already exposed, and the feds started the dominos falling when they found out about the illegal CAF contract.METRO cannot go out for bond $ it has to have with a bogus balance sheet. METRO has to find a way to get bond $ at something less than a usurious rate b/c it does not have the $, and its projections say it won't have for the foreseeable future, to build the $3-4 BILLION LRT lines it promised in 2003.METRO has been "rogue" in almost every way a govt agency can be for a decade or more. It demands the highest possible level of public scrutiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 editor's post is from the METRO blog, No, the post is from a Metro press release e-mailed to me, as is clearly stated in the thread title's subhead. I always note in the subhead when it's a copy of a press release from Metro, or any other organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 At least TxDOT and the Pentagon have assets to show for their expenditures of vast amts of tax $.What assets does TxDOT have that Metro doesn't have a similar inventory of? TxDOT has freeways. Metro has streets. Both agencies have trucks and personnel. I guess Metro has trains, while TxDOT has hundreds of "Don't Mess With Texas" signs with bullet holes in them, surrounded by trash.You're not happy that Metro got $14 million back on a bad deal. Would you prefer that Metro got zero back? Perfection is not the enemy of good.I can't tell if you hate Metro, or if you're an employee of CAF, but you certainly seem to have a heck of a large axe to grind. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) (Sigh.) Yes. As is TXDOT and the Pentagon. Yet, no one seems to hold these agencies to the same level of scrutiny.can you add public education to this?hell, every government run agency.What assets does TxDOT have that Metro doesn't have a similar inventory of? TxDOT has freeways. Metro has streets. Both agencies have trucks and personnel. I guess Metro has trains, while TxDOT has hundreds of "Don't Mess With Texas" signs with bullet holes in them, surrounded by trash.I thought the streets were state as well?Regardless, they have a lot of land, bus farms, administration offices, etc.At least TxDOT and the Pentagon have assets to show for their expenditures of vast amts of tax $.My point is that METRO is trying to spin $14 million it thought it had squandered but got back as a positive, when it has NO assets to show for spending $168 million tax $ ($182 million if you count the 14 mil they got back) since 2006. It has not layed 1 FOOT of LRT track even though we are now approaching the original promise date for opening the 1st new line.I think you have to be honest here, the $168 (that I am aware of) was not all given to CAF. I thought I read it was something like $50 million?Maybe METRO spent $168 million so far on planning, and things like that, and hell, there's lots of dirt that's been turned, just drive down any of the streets that the LRT is being built on, at least the east and south east lines. Edited February 24, 2011 by samagon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTX Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Most of these write off appear to be from the time that David Wulffe was the Chairman and Frank Wilson the CEO. How they could not do a better job of due diligence on the rail car contract is just amazing unless you factor pure political crony-ism and/or corruption into it. I'm pretty ambivalent about Parker overall but I think she has done the right thing by getting Greanias into Metro and starting the clean up. I wish them well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHB2 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 editor- my apologies, the METRO blog post is a slightly longer version of the press release you posted using most of the same paragraphs.editor- my point is not that METRO has no assets, b/c it certainly has vast assets, but that Greanias says his predecessor and that Board oversaw the spending of $168 million that METRO "cannot connect to anything we have of value."I guess if my outrage at METRO's fiscal malfeasance under Wilson and Wolff since 2006 is "an axe to grind" so be it. I'm glad you can be sanguine about waste on that scale in a tight economy, but maybe you don't live here.samagon - I said in my 1st post that $42 million was paid to CAF. CAF gave back $14 mil of that in the settlement. And wasn't the 1st to say that METRO squandered the $168 million and has nothing to show for it - George Greanias said that 1st.the breakdown of the whole $168 million writeoff, with Greanias's comments is here:http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/west_university/news/article_0cb6c2c4-3c74-11e0-90d8-001cc4c002e0.htmlGreanias's comments for the record don't try to spin anything positive about getting $14 million back.Greanias is without doubt the brightest ray of hope for METRO in years, but he's faced with an almost impossible task in trying to fund the 5 LRT lines in an era of declining system-wide ridership, reduced tax revenues, and the feds cutting back transit dollars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 an era of declining system-wide ridership This is news to me. Please elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 At least TxDOT and the Pentagon have assets to show for their expenditures of vast amts of tax $. The Pentagram "missed" 2.32 trillion as per Rumsfeld's announcement 9-10-11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qtv_yt_E60&feature=related The accounting offices at the Pentagon were hit by something the next day so I guess we'll never know the full story.. At least the Spaniards gave the money back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) The Pentagram "missed" 2.32 trillion as per Rumsfeld's announcement 9-10-11. Forgive me if I've misunderstood your statement - but isn't '9-10-11' several months in the future?edit: the Pentagram? Is this a Satanic reference? Edited February 25, 2011 by dbigtex56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Comparing state and federal budgets to Houston Metro is like comparing McDonald's whole budget to Bernie's Burger Bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7445303.htmlMetro will take delivery of 19 new rail cars for its Main Street line in late 2012 from an unlikely source — Utah.Metro, along with San Diego's transit agency, has piggybacked on a contract the Utah Transit Authority negotiated with rail car manufacturer Siemens. Edited February 25, 2011 by Highway6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 http://www.chron.com...an/7445303.htmlMetro will take delivery of 19 new rail cars for its Main Street line in late 2012 from an unlikely source — Utah.Metro, along with San Diego's transit agency, has piggybacked on a contract the Utah Transit Authority negotiated with rail car manufacturer Siemens.Good for Metro to help out Utah, I just hope that they can match the capacity that the CAF cars offered. Either way, the additional cars are needed pretty badly. Particularly during football and Rodeo season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Does anyone know if there is going to be a criminal investigation of Metro's mishandling of the money? There should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHB2 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 This is news to me. Please elaborate.this is the link to METRO's Ridership figures for FY2010-FY2011. The METRO site has the #s back several years as well, but this is easy to interpret - just go to pages 4,5,6 and look at the FY10 &FY11 comparison numbers. They are not my numbers, they are METRO'shttp://www.ridemetro.org/News/Documents/pdfs/Ridership%20Reports/0111_Ridership_Report_FY08-FY11.pdfmy point in the post is that Greanias has few options to raise the kind of money METRO needs to make good on its 2003 promises to taxpayers. the farebox take is headed the wrong direction to be of any help to financing system improvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Forgive me if I've misunderstood your statement - but isn't '9-10-11' several months in the future?edit: the Pentagram? Is this a Satanic reference?This post has been edited by Editor to remove off-topic content. Please keep this thread on topic, or it will be closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 This post has been edited by Editor to remove off-topic content. Please keep this thread on topic, or it will be closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesL Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 These writeoffs represent spending that was misguided but I fail to see how anything could be considered criminal. Corporations write off investments that don't pan out all the time, it's just not as public. Everyone agrees that METRO shouldn't have been paying for detailed plans for an intermodal facility they don't have the means to build, but that decision wasn't criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 These writeoffs represent spending that was misguided but I fail to see how anything could be considered criminal. Corporations write off investments that don't pan out all the time, it's just not as public. Everyone agrees that METRO shouldn't have been paying for detailed plans for an intermodal facility they don't have the means to build, but that decision wasn't criminal.Article 6.03(d) of the Texas Penal Code states, “A person acts with criminal negligence, or is criminally negligent, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he ought to be aware of a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that the failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor’s standpoint”If everyone agrees that METRO shouldn't have been paying for detailed plans for an intermodal facility that they couldn't have built, that would seem to be tempting criminality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHB2 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 These writeoffs represent spending that was misguided but I fail to see how anything could be considered criminal. Corporations write off investments that don't pan out all the time, it's just not as public. Everyone agrees that METRO shouldn't have been paying for detailed plans for an intermodal facility they don't have the means to build, but that decision wasn't criminal.you can't compare METRO investments to a private sector corporation. METRO is writing off public money, a completely different animal than risking private money.don't think there's any proof of criminality except for the CAF procurement process, which the feds found violated federal law - something a bit more than "misguided" from a publicly-funded agency.and there's clearly been some Enron-style accounting to overstate assets in the past according to Greanias - that's possible fraud.you've got to commend Greanias and the new board for trying to clean up the mess they inherited, but Wilson, the previous board, and a number of the METRO bureaucrats still there really hamstrung the agency for the next several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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