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it just pains me to see it sit...and sit...and sit.

it just keeps getting worse on the inside, and now that there's the reinforced boards on the first-level windows, the rot inside is surely baking into something really disgusting, from the basement up.

it's one of those buildings from which you don't want to be down-wind ^_^

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it just pains me to see it sit...and sit...and sit.

it just keeps getting worse on the inside, and now that there's the reinforced boards on the first-level windows, the rot inside is surely baking into something really disgusting, from the basement up.

it's one of those buildings from which you don't want to be down-wind ^_^

The exterior (where bums sleep) smells like a dog recently gave birth.

The lobby and 2nd floor aren't as bad as you'd think. No noticable odor, at least...doesn't mean that there isn't mold. Didn't see the basement, but I know that it has flooded and that the sumps weren't functioning at the time...

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The exterior (where bums sleep) smells like a dog recently gave birth.

The lobby and 2nd floor aren't as bad as you'd think. No noticable odor, at least...doesn't mean that there isn't mold. Didn't see the basement, but I know that it has flooded and that the sumps weren't functioning at the time...

the first floor wasn't terrible (but it did smell), but it had rained recently, which made everything nice.

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it would be fantastic if it could look like this again (instead of having bad stewardship :angry: )

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Wow. Thanks for posting the postcard.

To blame it on the owners for 'bad stewardship' is kind of unfair (no matter how much I despise the current owner). The cost of even obtaining a Certificate of Occupancy would be a hellish endeavor, and at the price that the owner wants, it isn't happening anytime soon. Until it is occupied, the best they can even afford to do to be good stewards is to keep the bums out and to check it regularly. You'd be surprised at what their operating costs are, even as it is.

Unfortunately, that entails the third-world accoutrement (i.e. barbed wire and such).

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To blame it on the owners for 'bad stewardship' is kind of unfair (no matter how much I despise the current owner). The cost of even obtaining a Certificate of Occupancy would be a hellish endeavor, and at the price that the owner wants, it isn't happening anytime soon. Until it is occupied, the best they can even afford to do to be good stewards is to keep the bums out and to check it regularly. You'd be surprised at what their operating costs are, even as it is.

who are the owners? the hcad description isn't very telling.

and i think it is completely fair to blame the owners (stewards) of the property (which isn't in great condition, and very much in the abandoned category).

if it is not their responsibility to keep it up, then who gets that honor?

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who are the owners? the hcad description isn't very telling.

and i think it is completely fair to blame the owners (stewards) of the property (which isn't in great condition, and very much in the abandoned category).

if it is not their responsibility to keep it up, then who gets that honor?

As I recall, the HCAD listing accurately shows the owner's contact info in Bronxville, NY. I don't recall his name, however. But he is a fairly recent owner and purchased it in the condition that it is in.

The fact that a building is abandoned has much less to do with the choice of an owner (especially in this case because the owner bought it as a derelict building) and everything to do with the fact that its highest and best uses (office or residential) do not command prices/rents high enough to justify the enormous investment necessary to bring the building back up to par. The floorplans and views aren't very conducive to high-end residential because many views are impeded by the parking garage or solid concrete walls. Also, there are still too many large chuncks of office space in downtown office towers that are of higher quality and with better locations. The parking garage would have to be restriped with fewer spaces, so their parking ratio would also be a limiting factor.

The only way in which the owner is being a bad steward is by asking too high a price for it. In that respect, he is an as***** because he's keeping it on the market longer than necessary. In every other respect, however, the 3rd world accoutrement is there largely to prevent bums from infiltrating the building and turning the interior into a true rat hole. I'd have been especially concerned about the possibility of arson if I were him. There's still a fair bit of fire load on many floors.

I'm hesitant to apply some sort of arbitrary "stewardship" clause to an already-dubious "social contract". Unless the building actually poses a risk to the public health, I see no reason to force an owner to do something with it that makes no financial sense. Its one thing if the City were to require that he maintain the skin of the building so as to prevent spalling concrete from raining down upon pedestrians below, but "stewardship" ordinances may have unintended consequences. For instance, the building will be rehabbed relatively quickly once the market supports it, but what do you think would happen to the building if the owner's holding costs became excessive in the interim?

Wrecking ball.

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The fact that a building is abandoned has much less to do with the choice of an owner (especially in this case because the owner bought it as a derelict building) and everything to do with the fact that its highest and best uses (office or residential) do not command prices/rents high enough to justify the enormous investment necessary to bring the building back up to par.

then "HDW 2000 1392 3RD AVE LLC" shouldn't have taken it on by buying it :mellow:

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Recalling the lost information from the Lucian Hood III posts, architect Lars Bang had established a firm and Lucian Hood, Jr. later joined it. They had designed the office building in the Rice Village and the Big Doughnut shop, now the Marquies, on Bissonnet, west of Kirby, once shown on this site, and many other buildings and houses.

off topic, but did Bang+Hood design the office building on Bolsover in the Village? (green tile, just demolished)

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A resident of 1016main told me an interesting story the other day while we hung out on his balcony. One afternoon, a military helicopter landed on the roof and 4 soldiers or SWAT did a roof sweep and then proceeded to sweep the building. They had assualt rifles but he said no shots were fired, or at least from what he could hear. About 5 minutes later they reappeared on the roof and took off. So we could only speculate that the military/police are occasionally using the building for training excercises and if so, does the property owner know?

:ph34r:

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A resident of 1016main told me an interesting story the other day while we hung out on his balcony. One afternoon, a military helicopter landed on the roof and 4 soldiers or SWAT did a roof sweep and then proceeded to sweep the building. They had assualt rifles but he said no shots were fired, or at least from what he could hear. About 5 minutes later they reappeared on the roof and took off. So we could only speculate that the military/police are occasionally using the building for training excercises and if so, does the property owner know?

:ph34r:

It's just training by one of HPD's SWAT units. The owner gets a little money for it when they use it, and they've been using it for at least a couple years.

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off topic, but did Bang+Hood design the office building on Bolsover in the Village? (green tile, just demolished)

That was the Texas Gas Building at 2472 Bolsover. Lars Bang remembers Alfred Finn as the architect. Stephen Fox called Finn a local yokel once. The building was extremely well built and easily maintained. It should have been worked into the new scheme. It had all the features everyone wants today except the pseudo Mediterranean facade. It had the parking along the front, the sidewalk restaurants and retail on the first floor and offices above. All the floors were beautiful terrazo. I have about 30 photos, including the restrooms, from several years ago. Many architectural firms were located there. Another example of a substantial building with character and integrity replaced with a poorly designed monotonous piece of generic nothingness.

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Just mindblowing how this building (well, technically a complex with the parking garage and whatnot) that occupies an entire city block just outside the CBD is used for nothing but an occasional SWAT drill.

Not worth saving, not worth tearing down. What a catch-22.

Squatters breaking into the site of a rich oil fatcat club killed off by the bust in the '80s and drinking their leftover Remy Martin makes an interesting slice of Houston history, at least.

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Just mindblowing how this building (well, technically a complex with the parking garage and whatnot) that occupies an entire city block just outside the CBD is used for nothing but an occasional SWAT drill.

Not worth saving, not worth tearing down. What a catch-22.

Just 3/4 of the block, but yes, it is funny how between having a screwball owner and some difficult floorplates to work with, this thing is in perpetual limbo.

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I live not far from these buildings and sometimes to me they are eyesores and other times they have potential. Maybe some big bucks type could make them a comination commerical and residental, or hotel.

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great picture. i hope somebody does something useful w/ this building.

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