nmainguy

Not to stir up another argument, but we all know it's there. Maybe the new abortion issue is embryonic stem-cell research? Which of course is a direct affect of abortion, isn't it? Is that the only way they're accumulated, by abortion?

Those are two different topics. Embyonic stem cells are derived from embryos-not aborted fetuses.

The embryos from which human embryonic stem cells are derived are typically four or five days old and are a hollow microscopic ball of cells called the blastocyst

There is also the fact that people have these "absolute" rules which drives me crazy. The other thing is that when they are (in my personal experience) put in a position which they need to stand up to their own "moral" standards, they often balk at making the "right choice."

It kills me.

Everyone wants to play by the rules until it affects them and then they bend the rules to make it convenient for them.

As for what is moral, my moral compass is just fine, I don't judge other people by MY moral compass, just like I don't expect anyone to expect me to go by theirs.

Well said.

Let me get this straight, CDeb. If all life is precious and murder is wrong.

Does that mean that you are against The Death Penalty?

For the record: I'm Pro-choice.

And yes, I asked people to be civil, nice to know you took it too heart.

It has been my personal experience that most people who are anti-choice are pro death penalty. I can never figure out how thet can justify it.

Must be something in the koolaid.

With all due respect, that's my argument.

Then we'll just agree to disagree. I usualy don't discuss things like this with people like Cdeb as he seems to have the anti-choice at any cost talking points down pat.

You on the other hand have obviously put some thought into what you believe. I just happen to disagree.

SOME kind of parking would have to be added if the Astrodome became a hotel. Might as well become conservative with Reliant Park's surface lots...

From the original article:

The 2,100-space, multistory parking garage would wrap around two-thirds of the Astrodome and markedly change the appearance of the facility once dubbed the Eighth Wonder of the World.

Can't say I blame you, as I am having one right now.

...apparently with yourself.

Perhaps you could tell me what is your compulsion to tell one of my sisters what she can and cannot do with her body? Is it a Stalinistic upbringing? An uncontrolable urge to control another's life? A feeling of moralistic superiority? A need to "rescue" a woman you deem inadequate to make her own decisions in a city of over two million people and over 100 non-profit services to help her through her difficult decision?

I'm really not confused because many people on the anti-choice side are adamant that the government should have complete control over a woman's right to choose whether to have a baby by rape, incest or to save her life.

I would prefer you and the government to mind your own buisness and definatly keep out of mine. That is why I will continue to vote FOR pro-choice candidates like Guiliani, Clinton, Edwards, etc and AGAINST anti-choice blowhards who can't run their own lives much less mine.

Oh wait...I won't be able to vote for Guliani because you guys won't let him be the nominee. Too bad. He would have had a good chance at winning in 2008. Now you're stuck with Brownback who was pro-choice before he was anti-choice. What a wacky world.

Allen Parkway Village (now known as Historic Oaks at Allen Parkway Village)

And originally known as San Felipe Courts.

More damaging still, in the early 1940s land north of San Felipe was cleared to build San Felipe Courts (now Allen Parkway Village), a housing development for white defense workers.

My parents lived there from 1947-1949.

Planned Parenthood themselves, a couple of years ago began producing "I had an abortion" shirts.

http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2004/...s/index_np.html

Yeah, I doesn't say, "I'm pro-abortion" or anything as such, but it certainly implies a matter of pride, a matter of being in favor of what one has done. Of course, I wouldn't expect anything different from PP.

Now I personally know a couple of women who have had abortions and their feelings about it are anything but proud, and personally I feel that the vast majority of women who've had one probably feel the same way.

This logic is quite fallacious. Our society will always have lots of ills, that doesn't mean they should be legal just because a law won't totally eliminate them. And I would hardly call 4,000 a day in the United States (200 in Texas alone) "rare."

You can darn near eradicate it if you provide a support system to women who feel that an abortion is their only choice. I would not be in favor of banning it outright without that support system. While I think that many pro-life organizations do a good job of this, I think they should focus more on it. A woman in this position is very vulnerable and scared, and needs good advice, medical care, financial assistance, and possibly protection from others. My hope is that our society can give them a chance to give their child a chance.

I am a huge advocate of education and alternatives to abortion. There are millions of couples (yes, millions) in the U.S. who would love to adopt a child, for starters. The demand well exceeds the supply (to put it not-so-delicately) of children in the U.S. Not to mention the others that I mentioned above.

Ah yes, that's all it's about, isn't it? Forget the fact that a living human being is killed in a quite brutal manner for the sake of another human's convenience. You can spin it any way you want to, and make it sound as oppressive as you like, but that fact doesn't go away.

Such as how Sens. Gore and Leibermann used to be in favor of laws limiting abortion until they became national candidates?

As I said, you can't produce a source that states it is pro abortion. You tried the typical diversion tactic by aiming your bulletless gun at PP. It's not worked in the past and it doesn't work now.

The logic is not fallacious. It factual. It's hard to have a discussion with one who denies the facts so I won't persue that with you any longer.

Until you create the support system you advocate, stick to the facts and stop demonizing the majority of Americans who are PRO choice.

You and music will be be more credible when you stop muddying the waters with false information or lame diversions towards school vouchers instead of sticking to the facts.

Whoa ! How in the world did we get this far off track ? At least insert a candidate into your positions as to whom you would like to see as Pres. What are Hillary's and Obama's stance on abortion anyways ?

Yo Yo! We're not off track...just offering up responses to posts. I've heard Sen. Clinton talk for years about safe and rare abortion. I've heard Brownback, Romney and McCain advocate basicly the same until now.The topic is about the 2008 election. One candidate's consistant position offered up beside three flip-flopping candidate's positions is a legitimate response to this thread. I can honestly say I havn't investigated Osamas' stand but I can definatly say many people haven't looked at Romney's, McCain's or Brownback's past positions. Perhaps a little digging into all the candidate's past stands would make for a better educated electorate.

Oh really?

Silly me, I keep forgetting that for some people, comparing the quite large portion of the American citizenry that would like to see an end to the killing of children in the womb with a regime that murdered non-believers by the thousands is not only un-childish, but quite civilized.

Just enjoying a laugh at your expense. The rabidly pro-abortion crowd is heavily invested in villification of its opponents to justify its unjustifiable position and your word choice throughout this thread is indicative of such. My word choice was a satire of your own, which, in hindsight, didn't translate well in this medium.

Could you document anyone that has said they are pro-abortion? I can't name a soul who has ever advocated abortion. I can document any number that have said they are pro-life AND pro-choice. The pro-choice side made a mistake when they didn't call the anti-choice advocates on their nomenclature. There has always been and will always be abortion. You can have it safe, rare and legal or illegal in the alley with a coat hanger as the anti-choicers have choosen. You would be well served to cease your advocacy of deadly back-alley abortions-whether you know what you are doing or not. You'll be better served by realizing abortion is never going away and no law will make it go away. Why aren't you advocating education to prevent abortion? Why are you advocating getting all up into a woman's womb to dictate a government policy?

Surprised I'm the first to post this revelation (at least I think I am), but the Allen House is slated to be re-developed. Notices were on the doors of 3535 and 3505 Dallas and 3601 Allen Pkwy. June 1 closing.

Mixed used development planned...kind of explains all of the recent structure torn down in the area.

Surely the Chronicle will be on this news.

As for me, well its been home for a bunch of years...

It has definatly been a cash cow.

HISD did indeed neglect it on purpose. They gave away the funds to CyFair for a new football palace.

BTW, my mom went to Reagan and they have a fine-ass new addition, parking garage and total restoration of the original structure.

http://hs.houstonisd.org/ReaganHS/images/June2006Gallery.htm

Good to see that the baby brain suckers have been practicing their inane rhetoric.

In the first place, Ricco requested we refrain from childish name calling. So far we've been able to honor his request.

In the second place, would you care to expand on your point in a more civilized fashion?

What's the point of posting if you're not going to explain yourself? I get the gist of it, but what did you want me to read? Why not add a link to a post in which I should have read.

This kind of posting is just annoying.

77017 rarely explains her/himself. You've made a valid point.

I was at a new year's party on that street On new year's eve (duh! as opposed to the Christmas one...anyway..) and as I was going to the home, I seemed to remember (and it appears like it was) a railroad ROW at one point. At what point was it converted?

It was always a street and a rail line. When we were kids we would ride our bikes there and watch the cars squish our penney.

The rail has been gone a long time-now it's to be a future bikeway. Here's the HAIF thread.

Truly!

The Dome would be ideal for that and other events, of course, theonly downside to that is that they would hae to use astroturf instead of natural grass.

They could always put in clear skylights-like the original. No pop-flys to worry about missing...

As for the Vince Young man-crush, you guys should come out of the closet. Really. HAIF has a lot of openly gay members, and they are all welcome and treated like family. It's OK if you guys who secretly love Vince while disguising it as football appreciation come out and set yourselves free. Really. It's alright.

You are killing me, Red!

BtW, Vinnie is a bit too nelly for me.

Bud wanted to stay if he could...have blackmailed us? Like alot here have said, his loyalty ran thin and shallow...

Does anyone know the balance of Carr's contract and/or what it might take to buy him out? Not being tacky or sarcastic-just curious.

Does anyone happen to know the general layout of the inside?

Floor Plan:

http://www.archgh.org/cocathedral/tour/floorplan.htm

Rice stadium was built by the City of Houston.

It was built by Brown & Root mostly with funds raised by alumni wives.

Yeah your right. I've got to stop getting after troll's.

nmg lends Gary his troll stamp...you have my permission to stamp 713 at will

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n259/WatchCat/troll.jpg

.......and if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle, so you do the math . Raiders lose and my Texans win, so just go suck it, you cheesy closet Cowgirl fan. I don't care if the waterboy was QB'n the team, a win is a win, no matter how ugly YOU might think it is. The defense played the way they should, unlike last week's 2 minute drill disaster. Our kicker didn't kick for 23 points so shove that B.S. statement right up your little heiny-hole. Just do what you do best and keep rootin' for your Cowgirls, and leave the commentary on the Texans for their REAL fans.

nmg hands TJ the valium and offers semi a one-way Greyhound ticket to Irving.

Well, what would you call it? You are, after all, the one who is saying you have higher standards than the Archibishop. That's the same thing as saying his standards are not as worthy as yours, and it's loaded with the implication that you think those who don't share your enlightened views aren't as intelligent as you. I call that elitist snobbery.

In my OPINION I do have higher standards than the bishop so in my OPINION his standards don't stack up to mine. Does that simple it up enough for you?

And yes, i am a bit bitter that i was not consulted on the matter.

ME TOO!!!!