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hadooga

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  1. Well see, had they intended for the square adult population to see the t-shirts, they'd have started a Myspace group instead of a Facebook group. You committed the internet equivalent of walking into a lion's den, and now you're wondering why the beasts are mauling you. You've just stepped into the mind of a teenager, so don't be surprised if you step on a pile of crap or two.

    Yes, I'm a square because misogyny is so cool. Sexism, too. I've committed the internet equivalent of walking into a lion's den and wondering why they're mauling me ... same as when I walk out the door every day? Is walking around as a female blameworthy, too? How dare I?! I know full well the mind of a teenager as I was one once, too. Not a male one, mind you, so my opinions probably don't matter. I don't know how I would have reacted to this as a teenager. What I do know is that crap like this has always bothered me, but it took much growing up, and growing really freaking tired of it before I could begin to articulate why.

    Maybe I have to be the first to say this, because nobody seems to want to broach this...

    Look, there is absolutely nothing pure or noble working in the mind of the average teen boy. When he's not popping his pimples, he's imagining every lurid and depraved sex act possible, probably even things not available on the net. This shirt perpetuates nothing. It reinforces nothing. Trust me, if these teens are anything like I and every other male were back then, they've already imagined every Stratford cheerleader in that position, along with every girl they go to class with, their teachers, the friends' mothers, every actress on TV, the Sears catalog lingerie models, etc ad infinitum. This shirt isn't titillating to these hormone-laden dorks, this shirt is the product of their already active imaginations. The depravity is already there, and whether or not the t-shirts were ever made or sold, these kids would still be thinking about two horses defiling an "unfortunate" Stratford cheerleader. If you'd like, I'll open Pandora's box a bit more for you, but I promise the contents are ugly.

    Again, goes right back to the point I keep trying to make but apparently am not making very well. This kind of crap coming from a 17 year old is remotely understandable as they are a teenager. When adults defend it, though, it's infuriating. Why is the depravity already there? Is it there when they're 5? Not sexual urges or wishes or wants; the depravity. Where does that depravity come from? Your post comes off like we should just write off all boys because they're just incapable of growing into decent human beings, though I really doubt that's what you were trying to say.

  2. The only one I've been arguing against is the misogynistic argument, and I think I've very effectively shown that the issue is at least morally ambiguous and at most an indication of thoroughly-entrenched female empowerment.

    I can't believe that this is seriously being argued, but directly from the Facebook group for these shirts: "This year's Underground Shirt is titled "Memorial Toweres Over Stratford" featuring two of our most prominent stallions with an unfortunate Stratford cheerleader." I think that if they felt she was empowered, they probably wouldn't refer to her as unfortunate.

    You think? Or, maybe they'd try to replicate it because they saw it in all the porn they regularly watch, and they thought it looked like fun. Teenagers aren't the innocent doe-eyed cherubs many people here seem to think they are.

    I'm pretty sure, for 99.9% of teens, this t-shirt isn't likely to be the first time they've seen this act portrayed. And likely, the other times they'd seen it probably had better artistry.

    Which goes back to what I tried to address earlier - that they will see it, along with all of the other repulsive & sexist crap that's around them every day, and that ultimately results in more of the same.

  3. I really don't even feel like debating this, except that I kind of did already. For me, misogyny is the theory and sexism is the practice, but they're intertwined. The fact that at least half of the comments on this item, if not more (especially looking at the other sites mentioned upthread), say that it's "just a joke" and that those of us who said it was offensive should "get over it" speak directly to this. I'm not saying that one kid is going to see the shirt and possibly go out & try to copy the act depicted. It's possible, but not my main concern. Will lots of kids (both male & female) see it and just file it away with all the other sexist crap they see daily? Yes. It only begets more of the same. The fact that a lot of adults don't see any problem here is even more bothersome, but I'm unfortunately used to that, too.

    If that's the case, and the Stratford cheerleader is enjoying it, then one valid feminist view might be that this is an act that empowers women, breaking them free of the traditional mores established by a male-dominated society...or some such bullcrap like that.

    Are all feminist views bullcrap?

  4. Were you parked on the Party City side? I just saw this thread now, but it we were there on Saturday, early evening. We parked over on that side and I saw glass on the ground in the parking lot and was thinking "hmm, must have been a break-in last night." Glad to report that our car survived the trip fine. We had a horribly slow waiter, though, and somehow stuff that we didn't even order ended up on our bill. Manager took care of it. It sounds like it was just a bad weekend to go to that Chili's!

  5. All of a sudden I'm male. Need to go change my profile.

    ...or is someone trying to tell me something?

    I was male, too, after the upgrade. Managed to get that all worked out now, though. ;)

  6. Just sifting through listings at HAR and noticed this one. Original thread (with some pictures) is here, and it was a Mod of the Month that December. Did anyone else here go look at this house? I loved the old kitchen, which they completely ripped out. Also, the the nice brick wall in the living room is now gone. What all did they do to the front? The river rock looking wall to the right of the door has been replaced with some kind of tile? Ugh. From the old thread, they were asking 375,000 or 400,000 if it got listed with a realtor - it's listed at 649,000 now.

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  7. I totally don't know if this will work, but...

    If you have an Android phone, hit HAIF and see if you end up with the mobile version. I mucked around in an area I had no business being, but it's worth a shot. Let me know if it works.

    I tried it, and as far as I can tell, I'm not getting a mobile version on my Android.

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    I'm guessing someone tried to break into the car? Window is a bit scratched, as well. Does anyone have recs for a body shop? I found a few older threads and saw Metropolitan Collision mentioned more than once. Also, anyone have any idea what the cost on fixing something like this might be? I'm hoping I can just take care of it myself and not have to file an insurance claim.

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