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fatesdisastr

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  1. Here's another article by bisnow that briefly mentions the Marriot Marquis and that, "Preconstruction will last into 2014; look for groundbreaking in Q4 and a 26-month build schedule." Does that mean they will break ground this year but the Q1 construction start that has been previously mentioned is for vertical construction?

    http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-estate/houston/the-deal-sheet-hou-091013/

     

    I really hope so. To me the way it was worded was awfully strange but it would be even more strange if they meant ground breaking Q4 2014. 

     

    On a side note and I may be wrong but I seem to remember they changed the street rendering from this one. I'm going to down a shot of tequila and hope it comes out this way.

  2. Altering the façade, design, or shape in anyway is changing history. I would say it is comparable to changing the history textbooks in the classrooms, And then the students accepting that as what really happened.

     

    I agree with you Montrose1100 on wanting to keep the facade the same. Not to get off topic but your argument about history books isn't very good. History books in public schools do not reflect real history. How we still hail Christopher Columbus as a national hero who deserves his own day is beyond me. For a man who raped, pillaged and robbed natives, our children really get the cheery history about a heinous individual. For that, history books should be changed to show multiple views because they only reflect the view of the individual or groups of individuals that write and edit them.

     

    As much as I love Pennzoil Place I don't feel it's owner is obligated to keep the exterior the same. Yes it is his property and those who wish it to stay the same can voice their content in hopes that they will change their minds. However since it isn't a historic landmark they can do whatever they wish to it. I doubt the facade will change, it was just a mere observation I was voicing about the image.

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  3. So, just to reset the conversation, everyone is getting all worked up about a renovation that, at last check, is really just something that has been guessed at on this forum. Don't you think that it might be a good idea to find out what the plans actually are before the outrage starts?

     

    Seems like we may have to wait till the first of the year to find that out.

  4. I believe more in property rights than I do in my ability to look at cool buildings. If the owners of the Pennzoil building decide that it is in their best interest to change the facade, why is it anyone's business but theirs, assuming they meet any life safety requirements and abide by any deed restrictions?

     

     

    I believe in property rights as much as the next person. I don't believe anyone here has said that we have any legal right to stop someone from changing the look of their property, but we do live in a country that we have the freedom to at least voice our opinion in opposition of such changes. If they refuse to listen to our concerns and go through with it then so be it, it is on them. But those of us who love architecture and history have a voice and we will use it, regardless if it makes a difference.

     

    I'd rather use my tongue to speak than to merely bite it.

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  5. I was thinking that too actually, but honestly I think if they do anything they'll renovate the inside and if they replace the outside it will be with the exact same look just upgraded material. They would have to bee insane to change the look in any way to this building. I think we're all over reacting.

     

    I certainly do hope we are overreacting. I'd protest if they changed the exterior facade look.

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