tierwestah

I read in the comical or somewhere that the blue bayou lighting may migrate to downtown's skyscrapers. Hopefully that will happen. The bayou's lighting is awesome. Come on downtown, let's get with the program!!!!

Yeah i'm with Sub on this, where'd you read that? Post the source or the link to the source if you can. Downtown Houston's skyscraper lighting definitely needs more blue at night. It's more calming and relaxing than what currently dominates it now.

There's a few people who have posted that have said they've seen some activity. I guess just because we don't see beams going up or a news story about it doesn't mean that ground hasn't been broken. I'm not saying it has, I'm just reporting a few facts.

I don't know lock, i was just there 45 min ago and the site is STILL a Parking lot. I'll consider it a groundbreaking when they fence off the parking lot and bring in the cranes (If it ever happens! )

Only The JP Morgan Chase Tower & Fulbright Tower have those bulbs on... And Fulbright doesn't have the save lighting during the holidays, it usually turns off the white lights, and portrays a green tree.

You left out quite a few. I'll name them all who do the white xmas light thing year round (IN DOWNTOWN)

Chase Tower

Exxon Mobil

Houston Center 1

Houston Center 2

Fullbright (aka Chevron Tower/ Houston Center )

And that doesn't include the 2 buildings in TMC, Heights, and Greenspoint. My point is we need more color to some of our sklylines. The downtown skyline is dominated by the white perimiter x-mas lighting round the rooftops. Looks ugly.

Are you kidding? Uptown has the most buildings with dull white x-mas lights dotting the tops of them. The only one with a unique feature is Williams Tower.

no i ain't kiddin. Downtown overdoes the Christmas light scheme. I was talking about year round, not just the holidays. If you pay attention, Uptown turns their white x-mas lights off after the holidays, Downtown doesn't .

man friday and thursday's losses were heartbreakers. The Rockets led the lakers by as much as 21 and they still allowed them to come back and beat them by about 12 points. I could tell K. Bryant was trying to keep from laughing. I think the Rockets need a new coach

Everything seems to be rainbow in Houston... The top of Reliant Energy Plaza, this building, and the fiber optic lights over the bridges over 59.

They need more of that rainbow lighting downtown to offset the dull white x-mas lights that's used on virtually every builing in Houston (EXCEPT Uptown/Greenway)

So in other words, it's a big IF if this thing will be built as a residential establishment or even be built at all!

In the words of George Carlin, "I'll leave symbols to the symbol-minded".

A symbol is nothing without substance. What does downtown Houston's postcard skyline say to the world? Does it say anything about public investment or urban planning? Or does it speak to the lack thereof? Truthfully, symbols can have many different meanings to different people, and they usually wind up getting twisted out of context at some point...sometimes to very dangerous ends. This is why Carlin's simple pun is genius.

No offense, but i'm not understanding your argument. Your points are a little wordy, confusing and somewhat skew away from the topic.

For years Houston has had a bad rap. Many visitors often say that Houston is not a User friendly city and has limited options. They say that because of the way downtown is currently laid out. It has the resources but no one knows about them. It's missing two key elements, residential and retail. Do you really think that its best for Houston, the 4th largest city in America to have a city center that lags behind many other cities even smaller (examples: Denver, Seattle, Milwaukee). If we don't start to change things now, there will become a time when its too late.

I respect that you feel that Houston shouldn't just conform to the standards of other cities, but at the same time, you're suggestions don't indicate hope for progress in this city.

Can I use this as my signature?

Nahh! It was just a rant. Just venting with frustration. Deep down, i do think the Pavilions will happen. I'm going to try to reframe from those negative type of posts from now on because i really do think Houston is a great city.

Holy crap -- he's in San Antonio?!

I like visiting SA from time to time, but it's no place anyone with any appreciation for things urban would ever want to live. That city's about 30 years behind the curve in terms of urban development -- that's part of its charm. To dish on Houston's urban environment from San Antonio is really lame. tierwestah is officially discredited.

Say Dal, don't discredit me yet. I've only been in San Antonio for 11 months on an internship. Houston 3rd Ward is my home. Tierwester Street BABY!!! 77004

Who pissed in your porridge?

Very funny > . But joke now and cry later. That's all i gotta say. I did my crying on Nov 2nd when i found out on the news.

If they don't build the Pavilions this year, it will never happen. I don't care who the tenants are, cause they could easily pull out.

So, I'm telling y'all now. If no ground hasn't broken now until the end of this year, it will never happen. Waiting next year is like waiting on the Texans to go to the Super Bowl.

These type of projects always fall through. This will be another Shamrock.

Semipro, you're alright with me now. At first i saw you as a negative downer, but now i see you're just realist. I've quit waiting on the day that HP finally breaks ground. It's been pushed to Feb/Mar 07. Then i bet on February 28 at 11:59 pm, right before that groundbreaking, they'll announce another set back 4 months later. Before we know it, 2008 will be here and still no groundbreaking.

I bet in 3-4 months from now, they'll be saying the rain caused them another delay. Or they might even go as to say that they couldn't get construction financing for the project. It's so pathetic, i find it funny now.

So fellow HoustonArchitecture board members, sit back and watch Atlanta and Dallas get all these cool projects while Houston sits stagnant! Welcome to Houston, the 4th largest joke of a city in America. The city with no efficient transit options (i.e. rail), no amusement park, 600 sq miles of ghetto, low density, car-centric, unplanned neighborhoods, lack of progress, and etc......................................................

I hate to admit it but i think i'm starting to join Captain Semipro's team of negativity. This thing has been pushed back too many times and now i'm starting to think the developers are going to pull out alltogether. The residential componenets have been cancelled which will hinder the idea of residential/walking environments on a consistent level. I really pray that it will still go forth but i'm very skeptical now!

yea i hope that they start buildng more shopping and stores to shop off main to acomodate this pavilon thing once it opens and kind of turn it into like a 16th strt like mall in Denver does anyone know if the pavilon in denver mushrooomed the deveopment off 16th street mall because the way i see it houston has way more comming to help the pavilions in houston more than denver like the downtown park & park tower.

i think you need your own track to do all that runnin' on!

They're selling the land, not the concept. The ideas presented are ENTIRELY conceptual, used only as marketing materials.

Don't count on what you see presented from CBRE as being the end result.

A little confused here. Your second sentence kind of contradicts your first. First you say they're not selling the concept but then your second statement says that the concept is being used for marketing?

what the fu#$? here it is, sept 15 and still no groundbreaking? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?

I'm trying not to join the negativity team of hustonsemipro but the way things are going, i might be inclined to do so!

^^dang Hizzy, why do you think its gonna be so long? Are you the next houstonsemipro?

i personally don't see what everyone is complaining about. Of course i would like to see something more representative of "Houston" to be inside a structure that was once deemed as the Eight Wonder of the World.

But i say, any type of business that's brought to Houston is a good thing. If they can find use for the Dome rather than tearing it down and just being another ghastly, unsightly parking lot, then WHY NOT? While i don't want that small texas heritage to be in Houston either, i look at the positive: Something is better than nothing.

i think houston semipro and zebra should get married. they'd fit very well together negative attitude and bad grammar skills!!!

can't say i have Red! Anyone know what colors are the lights gonna be? Houston downtown needs more blue!

Admit it. You just want rail becuase it's pretty.

PARTLY! but i really want rail because when i move back to Houston, i plan on abandoning my car with these high ass gas prices continuing to soar. I think buses are old fashioned and not as convienient as rail. i think if we had a designated thourough rail route, we can hit most major destinations of the city without having to take a car.

Sorry for the slight off- topic stuff folks now back to the topic. So Lucky Strike bowling. They used to make candy cigarettes too huh? j/k

Sure we are. Remember, we're ten years behind.

Hey Hizzy, were you saying this sarcastically? If not, how do you feel that we're 10 years behind ?

Oh and PS: I didn't mean to jump on METRO. I know they're doing all they can with what little resources they have.

Yikes! I was just kidding! I figured since no one responded to that comment for several days, you all picked up on it.

i see you like to play games Ms. "Nasa is relocating to Dallas!"

I don't think so. On some things yes, on others Houston is fallowing Dallas. And the same for cities across the nation.

like what? We sure ain't following suit with Dallas when it comes to rail!

What do you think of this "coincidence"? TXCN was on and they said that Lucky Strikes might be going into the Dallas downtown area as well. Didn't this same thing happen right after they announced the Houston HOB was announced?

is it me or does it feel like Dallas is following us?

Sorry Mods but it had to be said!

You obviously did not drive into downtown from 45 South. There were some good displays on that side.

like what? If you're talking about the huge Astros star on the Exxon Building than please, save your breath (or typing).

C'mon, even though Dallas may be an illusion, it makes itself look good at night. If you were a visitor wouldn't you rather see this?

Dallas, Texas

OR YEAR-ROUND CHRISTMAS TIME IN HOUSTON!... BORING (courtesy of skwatra)-2nd pic- caught some reflection from the window where it was taken!