tierwestah

I think Coog's digging himself deeper and deeper. He should just hush while he's ahead

And when i finally have kids, i'll be sure to keep them away from desirous. His comment sounded a little Michael Jacksonish !!!

that pic was sweet. looks like downtown is already becoming more popular

This is great news. Wasn't Dallas trying to say that the entire DFW area had more fortune 500 companys than the Houston area at one point? I'm confused.

I wonder what's the hold up?

Man!!! You can't even bring a BBQ grill and there's no grills in the park. All that money to stay around downtown and people can't do what they want. That's whack !!!

You know us black folks love our BBQ.

Well yeah anything beats those ugly parking lots so I guess I can't be too choosy. I guess i'm more turned on by flashy things like the screens in Victory Plaza and LA LIVE, even though Victory Plaza is mainly Concrete and really not intended to preserve green space.

And Sub, you may be right

I'm sorry to be such a downer but I've never been too excited about this park. I mean, it is an attraction and it is a nice place and it is downtown but its just a park! I can get everything this park offers by going to Herman Park or other parks throughout the city. I'm more excited about the Houston Pavilions and the possible stores that will be opening on the Main Street front

Ok, the rubik cube/tetris thing IS a stairway to the parking Garage. I can confirm this because i was at the park Saturday night with my girlfriend and we parked in the garage.

I requested a Family Dollar, keep it gangsta

That'd be cool, even though we got those mini mart dollar store on main st already. I'm just hoping for some more retail, like clothing or NIKE town.

Thanks for the photos. I too got kicked out of the park when i was in town on Saturday night. There was some event going on but i was still able to drive around and take a look at all the lighting effects of the park. It was really starting to come together. I hope they put blue lights in the pond when complete to hi-light the view of the pond at night .

Maybe its just me, but i don't see no Houston Pavilions in that photo.

I understood the first sentence of Niche's paragraph but i couldn't relay the last part when he was talking about what i said being torn apart. I wasn't meaning to be difficult but i just wanted him to clarify what he was saying at the end.

Black and White..!!

You're not alone C2H, i couldn't relay that last part either. Too wordy!

Wow those are some awesome shots sabotai. Great angles and detail. Thanks. Keep em coming.

^^^ So how does this tie in to the planned intermodal station that Metro is planning on? Is there remediation work being done on the portion of land that's slated for that project?

Well i don't care if its north, east, south, or west. The damn thing needs to just get built already! Something Victory Park like style

Took my fiance to The Grove Restaurant on Friday. Nice atmosphere and the food was pretty good but not for that price. We both ordered the Pork Chops. I didn't get the amount of food that i thought I should have for the amount of money. Mine was good but they burned my girlfriend's. They ended up taking hers off the bill so it worked out.

Yeah try to be a little more specific. Is it supposed to be mixed use or strictly office? You could be talking about a new McDonalds planned for all I know. Just kidding, but you get my drift!

tierwestah... I took that photo. Sorry it hurts your eyes. Here's another one, hope it doesn't hurt too much!

much better!

I do have sensitive eyes though!

Neon lighting is very outdated Gives the flavor of dated ideas. No forward progress.

I disagree. Some of the best lighting downtown has are lit with neon such as Wells Fargo's white neon top.

I hate to get off (or back on) topic here, but High Street is on hold. Read into that what you will.

Hold up everyone!!!

Where's the source on this? The land has already been cleared for High Street. You must be talking about the Westcreek Development which is on the lot right next to this. The Westcreek Apartments were supposed to be knocked down but word is that they will be around for a little while longer.

Ask Westerngulf, he seems to have the updates on this

THANKYOU for FINALLY mentioning LED lighting.

Lets just get rid of that disgusting neon green edge of that highrise we have now. It's been done.

How about let's work on getting rid of the disgusting Christmas lights first. The green neon building actually gives the skyline some color and flavor @ night.

Another skyline at night shot...

Where did you find this hazy pic of dt? Hurts my eyes just looking at it.

Could these, long-and for the most part irrelevant to the thread-posts be moved to another location? There are specific forums for topics on oil, jobs and transportation that could be used thus freeing up space for those of us interested in High Street. Moderators?

Don't mind the Pedant. The information was interesting but just didn't belong in this thread.

I am "keeping it real"! The fact is Main Street has maybe five clubs open now vs. dozens that were open several years ago. So Yes, main street is dead compared to what Main Street was several years ago, compared to midtowns dozens of bars that are open, and compared to other areas like the village. Also, all the nice restraunts and bars DT close by 11PM. Main Street is dead.... By person of color, what do you mean, because MT is full of Asians, Hispanics, Middle Easterns, and Euroamericans. I'll repeat myself -- Different people like different music and atmospheres, and that is the reason different clubs and areas have different groups of people. Are gay bars against straight people? Are country bars against black people? Are Latin clubs against white people? No, it is not a race issue, different groups of people like different things. The race issue will never stop as long as people like you, continue to bring it up with no merit! So "Keep it Real"!

Yeah, let's keep it real. Why don't you and i agree to meet next friday and i'll show you how we do it here in downtown. Since you and dal think its dead. Downtown is every much as hoppin' as it was before. We'll encircle the whole downtown all the way thru pink monkey/toc bar area and head out to the Rocbar which i think would be more of the crowd that you hope to gain. IT willl be "hoppin". Oh, and you don't have to worry about African Americans at the Rocbar. That should make you feel comfortable enough .

Oh and how about that Pavilions project?

Compared to 5 years ago, main street was dead. Four or five clubs were open vs. dozens that would be open several years ago. People are not scared of blacks but most Euro, Asian, and Hispanic Americans did not like the same music and atmosphere that the few clubs that are still open cater to. Since their are few blacks at country music bars or alternative music bars does it mean that they are scared of Euro Americans? Midtown was full of thousands of people just like the way Main Street was several years ago. Asian Americans and Euro Americans were in line at Sammy's. Euro Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, Middle Eastren Americans were walking the street having at a good time at El Patio, Little Windrows, Toppsy Turvy, Pub Fiction, and two dozen other places. Their were very few blacks Midtown. Are Euro Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, Middle Eastren Americans scaring blacks from Midtown??

Don't play the B.S. race card, people are not scarred and every group of people have different interest and people are going to go where they enjoy the music and atmosphere. Please note - the first paragraph had a little sarcasm behind hit.

The racecard ain't BS when i read posts like the one you made. All i'm saying is, don't try to act like it's not a color issue when clearly it is. Downtown is not catering to the crowd you or dalparadise likes so its considered "Dead". Me and an out of town visitor went downtown and there were various clubs going on. We both thought downtown was happenin'.Everytime i go to midtown, there's something going on but i don't see one person of color. That inclines me to believe that's more of the crowd you're looking for. All i'm saying is, keep it real!

Dalparadise is 100% correct... We went out Thurs. night and DT main street was dead. A few clubs were open and that was about it. I remember going out 5 years ago DT main street was full of people with dozens of clubs and bars from Wed. to Sun. night. Since DT was dead we took a cab to midtown, midtowns restraunts and bars were full of people. The streets were full of people walking and eating at the outside bars. It was very similar to what mainstreet was several years ago.

I beleive their are two reason why main street is dead now.

First reason - Main street is in a transition phase. I heard this from two people who are involved with the inside issues of DT. The city and DT residents want the clubs closed. Residents were tired of hearing loud music and people through the night. The city wants DT main street to be a livable neighborhood with upscale restraunts, bars, and retail. This is why the city has stop issuing new and renewing bar and club licenses. This is the main reason why the clubs are closing and new ones are not opening up.

Second reason - Houston going out scene migrates from area to area. I remember when the Richmond Strip and Shepard Plaza were cool and their were full of people. Then DT main street was full of people having a fun. To be honest with every new area that was full of clubs and bars, every thing was cool, then a few years later the thugs start showing up and it slowly pushes out the people who spend money and want to have fun. This is happening to Main Street and this is what happen to the Richmond Strip and Shepard Plaza.

Areas like the village have done a good job of not letting this happen....I also hope this doesn't happen to Midtown.

You right their are many other places that are full of people and that are full of fun, but right now DT main street is dead after 10PM. The nice restraunts and bars that are full of people close about that time and people scatter off of main street like a plaque is coming.

Not trying to throw out the race card here but the more i read posts like this, the more i realize that some people here are scared of African Americans.

I went to the same Main Street on Friday night and it was not dead. This was about 11:00 pm. I think some of you all are trying to keep from saying that a high presence of African Americans turns people away. If you think Midtown Houston is actually hopping compared to Main Street, then i have nothing to believe other than the people on Main Street are scaring you guys off.

Sorry Mods. It had to be said.