CrockpotandGravel

This thread was originally created August 26, 2019. I'm reposting / reupping this because this post and other content from me are no longer available on the forum due to a mod removing my account and its content in "error" (supposedly). The information may be outdated or no longer relevant, but reupping provides an archive to what was posted. It also provides a place to post future updates about this property if and when it's redeveloped An archive link of the thread before its deletion is here. 3510 White Oak Drive in the Heights, Houston. Aerial View Street View:

Originally posted August 2, 2019 in this thread before all of my content were removed from the entire forum earlier this month. Reposting this throws off the flow of the thread (i.e. out of order), still, it may be helpful for visitors to see what was previously discussed or shared before. An archive link of this thread in its entirety before my comments were removed will be included soon. Yes. I know all of these things. Still, as I posted above, although this may not be the final product, the model proposed doesn't blend in with the surrounding neighborhood. Many residents oppose the automated parking garage. As this image is being shared on Facebook and probably Nextdoor, complaints I'm seeing are how this sticks out in a bad way. Residents are hoping developers take into consideration the neighborhood's aesthetic on White Oak and Studemont. Yes, the model is not shown next to the other buildings, but it's not hard to imagine it based off of what we've seen of the recently released render.

Originally posted May 9, 2019 in this thread before all of my content were removed from the entire forum earlier this month. Reposting this throws off the flow of the thread (i.e. out of order), still, it may be helpful for visitors to see what was previously discussed or shared before. I wasn't able to retrieve or save everything I contributed to this thread, only the last three pages ranging from 2017 to 2019. An archive link showing the last three pages (pages 7, 8, 9) before all of my contributions to this threads were deleted is coming soon. Good someone is reporting this. I wonder why are the news reporting on this now? There was no press release for this, but permits were filed for this last year and several months ago, as posted on this forum earlier this year. And The Rustic was on the site map in February and March. This is why I rely on HAIF to keep me up to date.

I'm not familiar with standard terms communication companies agree upon for the placement of their billboards. But I'm assuming, the Sharifis ( likely under SFT Investments ) will use the small lot with the billboard if and when redevelopment of both properties take place.

Originally posted August 1, 2019 in this thread before all of my content were removed from the entire forum earlier this month. Reposting this throws off the flow of the thread (i.e. out of order), still, it may be helpful for visitors to see what was previously discussed or shared before. An archive link of this thread in its entirety before my comments were removed will be included soon. I would prefer to park my car over valet. But if this is the only parking option, I would do it. Easy Park's U-Tron has proven successful and safe elsewhere .

Originally posted May 9, 2019 in this thread before all of my content were removed from the entire forum earlier this month. Reposting this throws off the flow of the thread (i.e. out of order), still, it may be helpful for visitors to see what was previously discussed or shared before. I wasn't able to retrieve or save everything I contributed to this thread, only the last three pages ranging from 2017 to 2019. An archive link showing the last three pages (pages 7, 8, 9) before all of my contributions to this threads were deleted is coming soon. From building permits, Giant Leap Coffee is the coffee shop that may be opening in place of Belvedere, the club and lounge in Uptown Park. This is a craft coffee shop in Houston's East End. http://www.giantleapcoffee.com/ In January, Giant Leap Coffee announced a second location on the way, but didn't say where. From Instagram: We’re really excited to announce that we’re working on a second location. More on that as things progress! Excited for another crazy year! https://www.instagram.com/p/BsYUAzEjIzq/

Originally posted August 1, 2019 in this thread before all of my content were removed from the entire forum earlier this month. Reposting this throws off the flow of the thread (i.e. out of order), still, it may be helpful for visitors to see what was previously discussed or shared before. An archive link of this thread in its entirety before my comments were removed will be included soon. This looks out of place with the rest of the neighborhood on White Oak Dr and Studewood. I'm for the garage, but I'm not here for the design if this is the final product. Maybe some greenery would help.

Originally posted July 30, 2019 in this thread before all of my content were removed from the entire forum earlier this month. Reposting this throws off the flow of the thread (i.e. out of order), still, it may be helpful for visitors to see what was previously discussed or shared before. An archive link of this thread in its entirety before my comments were removed will be included soon. I'm all for Uber, Lyft and car sharing services. These services and light rail services open until 4am are wonderful solutions in combating drunk driving. But not everyone drinks when going out to neighborhoods like downtown, the Heights, Midtown, or Montrose. They go to these neighborhoods to have fun. But being completely opposed to multi-story parking garages in areas like this one, isn't going to solve the problem. Outside of buses, Houston doesn't have adequate public transportation in these area like rail that people would be more inclined to use. Instead, people who don't live near here often drive to these places because it's less expensive than Uber. With a parking garage in place, the cost to park will be less than an Uber ride for many who live further out. Parking garages also help reduce neighborhood street parking. Residents may be opposed to this, but the fact is, White Oak Dr is one of the main nightlife artery of the Heights. As more businesses build, the more influx of people coming in to visit. The Heights is not the small inner city town it once was, it's part of Houston's urban center. Keeping the small town vibe is great but realistically, residents have to come to term that they can't have their cake and eat it too. There has to be better parking options to address the growth of non Heights residents coming into the area to dine, drink, visit art galleries, or whatever is happening there. Parking garages similar to this are needed.

Originally posted July 25, 2019 in this thread before all of my content were removed from the entire forum earlier this month. Reposting this throws off the flow of the thread (i.e. out of order), still, it may be helpful for visitors to see what was previously discussed or shared before. An archive link of this thread in its entirety before my comments were removed will be included soon. In the above The Leader's article, the multi-story automated parking garage from Easy Park ( U-Tron) is discussed. Also included is this additional quote from residents opposing the structure. This is the garage planned for 2714 White Oak Dr in the Heights, Houston: Winston Manley and Kris Wathen, who are 29-year-old roommates just south of White Oak Drive and rode their bikes to Christian’s Tailgate on Tuesday evening, also said they would be in support of more restaurant and bar options on the street. But they disagreed that there is a need for more parking, at least for automobiles. “Our generation Ubers everywhere,” Manley said. “Parking garages are nice, but it’s irrelevant to us.” https://theleadernews.com/mixed-use-development-targeted-for-fitzgeralds-site/ A parking garage may be irrelevant to them because they live close enough to the White Oak District to walk or bike. But many are coming to the area from other parts of Houston that are further out, be it in the 610 loop and parts of Houston that are between the loop and the beltway. There are also the cities surrounding Houston. For those people, an Uber ride in the evenings can cost. Driving to White Oak and paying to park (or available street parking) would be more cost effective for them. Rail would be a better option, but the city is lagging behind on faster and technologically advanced mass public transportation. Residents living in these neighborhoods, neighborhoods where people from all over Houston visit daily, are short-sighted. They're also narrow-minded. They want people to visit and support the businesses that make their neighborhoods local destinations. At the same time, many of those same residents oppose multi-parking structures like these where the purpose is to alleviate neighbor's frustrations with street parking. They also oppose mass public transportation in their neighborhood - a neighborhood that is the center of entertainment and other recreational activities. It doesn't make sense.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by crockpotandgravel, May 1, 2019 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. From recent updated site plans, the automated parking garage for 2912 White Oak Dr may have been canned. The space between Christian's Tailgate and Tacos A Go Go was designated for the automated parking garage, but is now shown as retail. The parking garage has been moved to the space next to Fitzgerald's at 2714 White Oak Dr. (thread about it here)

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by Luminare, November 25, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. I, for one, welcome our new 10 story automated parking overlords.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by mollusk, November 23, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. It may be tall, but in area it's just a footprint in the sand.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by EllenOlenska, November 21, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. Reading this conversation, it's hard not to think about the (long ago) tram that used to go down Heights Boulevard and stop and Heights and 20th.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by Angostura, November 23, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. The greater Heights has a population density of around 7000/sq mi. That's about 2X the density of Houston as a whole, but probably about 1/2 what it would need to be before a significant proportion of customers arrived by means other than a private vehicle. (That said, on a nice day it's harder to park a bike than a car at Heights Mercantile.) However, density isn't the only metric that determines how people get around. If we isolate retail in just a few places, along Shepherd, south of I-10, people will still have to drive to it. If we have healthy, high density retail corridors on Heights/Yale, Shepherd, Studewood, White Oak, 11th, and 19th/20th, plus eventually N. Main and Airline, pretty much everyone in the Heights will be within half-a-mile of at least two retail corridors.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by Ross, November 22, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. You will always need parking, unless you think a White Oak type area can survive catering only to people within walking distance. I live 2.5 miles from White Oak(and don't use Uber or Lyft due to their stupid fight against reasonable background checks), and there's no way I am walking over there for dinner and then back, so there has to be some sort of parking. As it is, there are times where we just go somewhere else if there's no parking within a reasonable distance of White Oak.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by Angostura, November 22, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. It's great that there's lots of retail being added to lots of different parts of the Heights, but the use of the term "overdevelop" is question-begging. The best way to not need 10-story parking garages is to put retail close to where people live. And as long as we require lots of parking for retail development, the only way to put retail close to people without acres of surface parking in between is to go vertical. So, garages like this are necessary so that some day we won't need garages like this. Ideally, we'd decouple parking provision from retail development, so that we could have smaller, more granular developments that share common parking across a neighborhood. But there are economies of scale in parking construction, so until we get rid of parking minimums, we'll still have rules in place that favor large developments over smaller ones. So if you're really worried about big developers making too much money, get on board with eliminating parking minimums.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by Texasota, November 21, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. What does "overdevelop" mean though? I mean that seriously. I'm not necessarily saying that increasing density is *always* a net positive, but retail absolutely benefits from proximity to other retail. More development on White Oak will make it a healthier commercial corridor.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by s3mh, November 21, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. Typical beaten down Houston development standard. Just because it is better than a Walmart, tote the note lot or a row of town homes doesn't mean we have to accept it. There is no reason to overdevelop White Oak like this other than to line the pockets of some developer. Radom is putting in 200k sq ft of retail/office next to the old Freedman building. Braun has @25k sq ft of retail on 24th and N. Shep. Market at Houston Heights on N. Shep and W 15th has 75k of retail sq ft under construction. The train station thing on Heights and 11th is built out. There are a bunch of big lots on N. Shep suitable for additional retail development. The thrift store and insurance resale place on 19th are primed for conversion to new retail. There is absolutely no compelling need to cram all that retail on to White Oak that we need to put up a giant vertical garage.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by EllenOlenska, November 21, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. I'd really like to know how tall the spire on the All Saints Catholic Church in the Heights is.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by EllenOlenska, November 21, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. Also fwiw the garage at the Camden on Oxford is six stories high.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by thedistrict84, November 21, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. I don’t disagree. Even better would be if the City hurries up and does away with minimum parking requirements completely. With ride sharing and Uber/Lyft more prevalent, and automated vehicles maybe 5-10 years out, there will be less of a need for parking and garages like this will be antiquated. The City’s recent vote to extend the CBD to most of Midtown and EaDo (and therefore essentially eliminating the existing minimum parking requirements) gives me hope. And I know parking capacity is a concern held by retail tenants, but that too will change as more and more people move away from driving their own vehicles for the reasons specified above (plus hopefully extended public transportation and better walkability due to increased density in certain areas).

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by Houston19514, November 21, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. See Angostura's post above, (approximately 80 feet), approximately the height of The Assembly at Historic Heights (the shortest of the five nearby properties on my list).

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by EllenOlenska, November 21, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. Nice list thanks. Yeah when I said apartments on Yale I meant Assembly and the other one. And when I said abandoned condos I mean Victoria condos. You can see Studewood condos (which escaped my mind) pretty clearly from far away. Really dominates its surroundings. I wonder how tall the garage will be in feet.

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by Houston19514, November 21, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. FWIW: 8-story Victoria condos less than 1 mile away -- 106 feet tall 10-story Elan Heights 1/2 mile -- 133 feet tall Studewood Place condos less than 1 mile - 93 feet tall Assembly at Historic Heights - Just over 1/2 mile -- 6 stories - about 80 feet tall New Courtyard Hotel on Columbia - 12 mile away. 93 feet tall

This was in the previous thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive . It's being reposted / reupped since the original thread and other content from me were removed. Originally posted by Angostura, November 21, 2018 in the thread for Automated Parking Garage In Development @ 2912 White Oak Drive. There'll probably be two different floor heights, one for regular cars, one for pickups/SUVs. The former are about 7-ft floor to floor, the latter about 9-ft. If the structure is half-and-half, it'd be around 80-ft total height.