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Project Name: McNair Plaza   Architect: House & Robertson Architects   Groundbreaking: Beginning of April 2021   Completion of Construction: Decem

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On 11/16/2016 at 1:01 PM, cloud713 said:

This possibility is very exciting.

However, there is no way this site would be the location for a Texans practice facility/HQ/mixed use development.

A football field by itself is over 1.1 acres. This site is 6 acres. If there weren't any attached facilities, the practice field would take up 1/5th of the site (assuming the building dimensions are the same size as the field).

And to compare a similar development concept, The Star in Frisco cowboys practice facility/HQ/mixed use development is 91 acres..

I'm not doubting the legitimacy of these rumors, I'm just saying this site couldn't fit such a development. Maybe they are in talks with the owners of the portion of the Astroworld site that doesn't belong to the Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo? Otherwise, I wonder if they would look towards the suburbs for such a development?

 

Never said the practice facility was going to this location, I stated a Mixed-Use that includes Texan's offices would be included. The practice facility would be elsewhere - there are two options with a mass amount of acerage.

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2 hours ago, BigBlueContractor said:

 

Never said the practice facility was going to this location, I stated a Mixed-Use that includes Texan's offices would be included. The practice facility would be elsewhere - there are two options with a mass amount of acerage.

Can you say where the two options are?  I wouldn't be a fan of them moving out to the suburbs.  Why not build where their practice facility is currently? 

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What if they had practice fields stacked on top of each other? That might be pretty dope. I see no reason why their complex couldn't be vertical.

 

And why do they need to relocate the practice facility? Seems perfect where it is right now.

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2 hours ago, lockmat said:

What if they had practice fields stacked on top of each other? That might be pretty dope. I see no reason why their complex couldn't be vertical.

 

And why do they need to relocate the practice facility? Seems perfect where it is right now.

I actually like this idea, but it needs to include a hole in the 2nd floor practice field so that JJ can post vids of him jumping onto the field from the first floor once he's recovered and when the NFL finally relaxes their position on body augmentations.

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7 minutes ago, bobruss said:

I think I read on here that they were using this lot as a staging area for the Post Oak BRT line construction storage yard.

 

 

Staging area for Post Oak BRT is on Post Oak and Hidalgo.

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On 5/5/2017 at 0:41 PM, shasta said:

Has the project officially started? Seems to be a lot of activity around the site.

 

Definitely appears to be some sort of site work going on here. Drove by this weekend, but couldn't really tell what they were doing. 

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Wow! Looks to be the 2nd tallest tower in the Galleria! This was the same site of that supertall skyscraper around the Great Recession.

 

Edit: Might be a direct competitor to San Felipe Plaza in height.

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B+ for the design, A+ for height and scope. Level 9 on anticipation!

 

Looks like Ziegler Cooper go the boot. Their design is not quite as slick as SOM's.

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So I'm guessing the tallest building will be the hotel on the lower section and condos on the taller section.

The shortest one probably the office tower. I bet thats where McNair Interests will office in that building.

Just speculating

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Is the parking garage(s) underground(!) or is it the podium for the building in the back? It's hard to tell. The two in front look great w/o one, at least from this vantage point.

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29 minutes ago, lockmat said:

Is the parking garage(s) underground(!) or is it the podium for the building in the back? It's hard to tell. The two in front look great w/o one, at least from this vantage point.

 

Even if that weren't a not-so-great idea for other reasons, I don't think land values in the area are such as to justify digging down for parking, unless you're at the corner of Post Oak and Westheimer maybe.

 

 

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If I go off my amateur scaling skills, the building to the right (3050 Post Oak?) is 243 ft. If your were to line it up to the base of the tallest tower, and gauge how many times taller the big tower is (about 3.25 times). The big tower will be in the 700-780 ft range. Now scaling off of that, the second tallest one should be in the 470-510 range. Take this with a huge grain of salt though.

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This will gain the title as the tallest mixed-use building in Texas, but I don't think it will be taller than The Independent. 58 floors/683 feet vs 50 (at least that's what I'm getting when I count), the Austin high-rise is all condos standing on a parking podium, while ours has hotel levels mixed in, which are usually shorter. 

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17 minutes ago, Dakota79 said:

This makes me so happy!  He certainly has the $$$ to do it.  It will be so odd to see something this tall close to the Williams Tower!  Exciting!

Not odd at all. I think of it as a chance for Uptown to plug in the holes in its linear skyline. There's a gap between Williams Tower and US59 where those skinny beige stucco condo towers are. This will fill in that gap and because the site is basically just a field, this will densify Uptown. 

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2 hours ago, Sellanious Caesar said:

Not odd at all. I think of it as a chance for Uptown to plug in the holes in its linear skyline. There's a gap between Williams Tower and US59 where those skinny beige stucco condo towers are. This will fill in that gap and because the site is basically just a field, this will densify Uptown. 

I meant odd in a good way as Williams has stood tall and proud, yet alone for 30+ years. 

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29 minutes ago, Montrose1100 said:

Projects like this barely saw the light of day during the last oil boom. What gives now? Am I out of the loop? I mean, I technically live out of the loop.

 

wasnt the last wave the first time that more urban type projects were widely built? 

 

So maybe now there is more confidence they’ll succeed in Houston?

 

i don’t know, just throwing something out there.

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 I was in Dallas recently and they certainly have this type of development down pat. Plus the park over the freeway Is incredible.  It’s a remarkable time to live in Houston as we watch our city densify. 

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11 hours ago, Urbannizer said:

This will gain the title as the tallest mixed-use building in Texas, but I don't think it will be taller than The Independent. 58 floors/683 feet vs 50 (at least that's what I'm getting when I count), the Austin high-rise is all condos standing on a parking podium, while ours has hotel levels mixed in, which are usually shorter. 

I glanced at the Chronicle this morning and it stated 51 stories, so you were close.

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11 hours ago, Elseed said:

Sucks that this development is not gonna be in Downtown or Midtown...

Its not that big of a deal. Lets share the growth.

I personally wish that everything had been built in downtown.  Think how our skyline would compare.

Just imagine all of those buildings in Uptown, the energy corridor, Greenway Plaza, Greenspoint and Memorial City,

all combined in downtown. Now that would have been something.

Midtown would be full all the way to the Med center.

But since we have developed this way it's nice that all of the areas  of commerce continue to grow.

Many times a development like the Uptown Galleria would have stymied a downtown, but Houston is 

strong enough to keep this hub and spoke development  that has grown out of the original freeway growth going at least for the foreseeable future.

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In the end, this is the part of town where these ultra high-end mixed-use work best. It is where the ultra rich live. I don't mind the location. He will be happy that it isn't far from the fountain wall and the Galleria. It gets better views from 610 and 59 compared to BLVD location. It becomes a focal point in that location. I am just happy to see this level of investment. 

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1 hour ago, TexasGeneral said:

This is a beautiful building, but I question the location. Seems like this would be better suited as part of ROD Phase II. Or an extension of BLVD Place. Riskier move IMO to be that far south. 

 

I think it has to do alot with the redevelopment and transformation of Post Oak Blvd which runs from Richmond to 610 so this is the beginning (or the end) of the new "grand blvd"...so it makes sense to me! In the long run it will help make this whole project cohesive.

 

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