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We shopped at the Pasadena Foley*s and the Almeda Foley*s.

At the Pasadena store, I remember a bookstore area and some sort of kids play area but i forget the theme - maybe a ship. Seems like there was also a restaurant. It was all in sort of a middle cut through area between the men's dept and the women's dept.

Technically, the San Jacinto Mall Foley's opened in 1981.

We must be talking about different Howard Drives. I just "drove" through the Meadowbrook portion (using Google street scene), from Winkler to OGR & back. It may not have been over 50% commercial, but it was close - lots of houses with front yards paved & house converted to some commercial use & several actual commercial buildings. I can remember when it was ALL residential, except for the Baptist Church at Arizona & Smith's Grocery at Winkler.

Also, I can't really imagine any effective Homeowner's Association in Meadowbrook. There sure wasn't any such thing 35 years ago when my mother sold her house on Barkley.

Ernie

nope..same howard.

oh yeah..i know there are businesses everywhere. This was back in '99 when values starting increasing in Meadowbrook, with new homeowners moving in, and people wanted to clean it up..but the businesses obviously didn't.

Check out this article from the chronicle archives:

http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive....id=1999_3132904

Don't know if it was rezoned or if Houston still doesn't pay much attention to zoning.

Houston still doesn't have zoning but I think Howard is still "protected" from commercial with deed restrictions.

In '99, The city tried to enforce them after the hoa complained... but then the businesses banded together and put out propaganda out about how deed restrictions limit your property rights and got a pro business slate elected to the home-owners association.

I think the city just didn't have the resources to make the businesses shut down if the new hoa didn't want it enforced.

They may have even got the deed restrictions changed or eliminated but i can't really remember.

There was some guy involved that makes it his job to get deed restrictions eliminated in neighborhoods by playing up the property rights angle. Seems like the "helped" Pine Valley or some other SE neighborhood do the same thing.

This all sounds very similar to Park Place Pharmacy (across from Kelley's).

The lunch counter still opens in the mornings and all the old regulars go hang out there to eat - as they have been for years.

No new inventory in the store in ages and the pharmacy itself hasn't been open in years.

Basically, the owner just opens it to cook breakfast for all her friends.

Yeah...that's it. There is also a bldg. that faces the circle, same side, SW, that has been there a long time. Believe there is a florist in it. It's before the post office.

The Flower Box

I may be getting that pharmacy by Weingartens mixed up with the little rectangle bldg. (drug store, maroon color on front) on the south side of the road, across from the previous Weingartens location. I have a picture of it here, somewhere on HAIF. It is very old, can't recall the name, right now. We never shopped over there, just remember driving down Park Place Blvd. alot, with my grandmother... sometimes to go to the Santa Rosa theater.

you mean Park Place Pharmacy..across the street (currently) from Kelley's (Langs/Weingarten)

I believe there was an older version of Lang's that was closer to the circle, that was removed when they built the gulf freeway.

George Harris was the longtime owner of Park Place Pharmacy

It seems this one owner house was built for H. S. Hayre who is an electrical engineering professor at the University of Houston.

Make that WAS an EE prof at UH. He died last year. Hence (i guess) the sale of the house.

RIP Dr. Hayre. RIP cool house!

Got my real estate friend to look up the listing. This is quoted from the agent only remarks:

"Foundation on present home built in '59 cracked and severly outdated."

uh oh! it is "outdated," i guess the only choice is to bulldoze it and build a cathedral

I took this photo of Herman's Shoe Repair a few months ago. I don't know if that was before the changes you're referencing, though. Information-wise, you might check the Chronicle archives. The principal's name is in the Press blurb on the link page.

If you find out more, I'd be interested in hearing it!

I believe that was originally a Rettig's Ice Cream.

there is a thread on here somewhere about it.

The building is long paid-for, but the congregation is struggling. They've consolidated with others in the area, but still don't have the numbers to pay the bills, so the building doesn't get cared for as it should.

Sorry to see they sustained so much Ike damage and that the congregation is struggling.

Hopefully they find a way to save the original Park Place Baptist Church Building - before they moved across the freeway in the 50's. It's the red brick building next door to the main church - corner of Kingsley. It would be a shame to tear it down just for more parking (as shown in their plans).

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source...6744247576,,0,5

BTW, the current Methodist church building partially sits on the location of the old Park Place City Hall and Fire Station.

I'm definitely a beer nerd and somehow hadn't heard of Shiner Black until last week, you're the third person to mention it. Now I really want to find some. I never see it at Kroger, haven't been to the Gingerman in a long time, haven't brewed in 3 years, and had a baby last year, so my exploration of new beers in the past few years has been very limited. Poor excuses, I know. I plan to brew in 2 weekends, I will try to find some for that event.

if you tried Shiner 97 anniversary beer back in 2006, then you had Shiner Black.

It did so well they made it a regular.

Look for the Shiner Commemorator for this years 100 year anniversary entry.

its very close to a doppelbock -sort of similar to Salvator. Sweet with a high alcohol content.

Good but not as good or distinctive as the 97 (black).

I've never brewed. Wish i had. I don't think I have the patience though.

Do I curse you or thank you? This is my new drug and you are my dealer. Between this and

https://www.historicaerials.com

my free time is gone.

ditto!

i found these interesting pics of "old" houston gas/tire stations. too bad they are gone now.

(i know...its not bolton and barnstone )

Phillips 66 Station, Gray & Smith Steets Houston TX

Firestone Store Location: Milam and Webster Streets

Jones Gas

Anyone know when the Luby's was inserted into that mall?

Luby's was an original tenant. Unfortunately they closed a few months ago.

It's been a while so I may have forgotten, but has anyone seen/posted this? It's a detail of the block book map for the oval (the halves were on two sheets so I put them on one):

i dont know if i posted it, but i remember looking at it

Thanks for the replies so far - currently residing south of the medical center, I think it's safe to say areas south of the loop (and even the beltway) are better - I don't know much about Pearland or Friendswood or commute times either way, though.

Vic - Sunnyside, Southpark, South Acres, and Crestmont Park areas are probably out of the question.

Are there any other areas to suggest/recommend? Anyone know much about the Minnetex area?

Is there anything to actually rent in Minnetex?

It seems like mostly large rural farm type homes.

If Minnetex is on the table, why not Garden Villas?

No, he was very clear and specific in saying that the Multiple Listing Service (MLS) reports the sale price to the appraisal district, and he was very adament about it being none of the MLS's business as a third party to report the sale price of a sale between two individuals.

The MLS (or HAR - the owner of the MLS) does not directly report information to HCAD. (as Chenevert confirms)

However, someone that works at HCAD (a spy perhaps ), could (and does) have access to the MLS and can thereby obtain the information that way. But cannot (as Chenevert's post states) release that information to the public (but it could be used for your appraisal).

Now about writing a clause into your contract to prohibit disclosure, I think that if an owner agrees to list their property into the MLS, they are bound by certain rules, one of which is probably some agreement that the sales price must be recorded into the MLS.

Nice, but no Brunsville?

Yeah! We want Brunsville!

It looks like Southland Terrace was replatted before construction.

Check out the blockbooks online and it seems they red-lined the new plat right on the same page.

BTW. I think this is the map poster that used to be on sale in the Texas Room of the Ideson Library for $20

Also, anybody who is familiar with the Sanborn maps will realize that this is the same map (or at least the same cartographer) that was used at the beginning of each section.

In my opinion, it was a misnomer to call this place a mall. I was more of a strip-mall. It looked like any other strip mall, and thus it had no special attraction, which could be why it failed.

In the 90's it had already been converted to a strip mall.

Deauville Fashion Mall closed in the mid 80s and then later it was remade as a strip center.

The part that currently houses Bel Furniture, Bed Bath & Beyond, and Sports Authority used to have interior hallways with smaller stores and such and that was Deauville.

I am not sure that Builder's Square and the Loews Theater were ever considered part of the Deauville Mall.

They just happened to share the parking lot.

I believe there was another Deauville Mall on the northside somewhere.

I mean, what was it like inside? Did Builder's Square open into the indoors?

Builders Square and the Loews were standalone stores in the parking lot.

Only the part where currently Bed Bath Beyond, Sports Authority, and Bel Furniture is (I think that is the former Best Buy) was an indoor mall.

I think I remember a Bealls being there but i dont remember anything else.

Trouble is, I can't remember exactly where it was located. Was it in Sheldon, further east in Crosby or more west toward Houston?

I think it was right at Sheldon and 90

across from the paper mill

They built a new building on the rear portion of the lot. They are probably tearing down the old portion of the restaurant in the front of the lot to recover some parking.

Thanks!

I guess that means it has been too long since I have been there!

I saw the Tellepsen house on the Eastwood Home Tour (several years ago)

It has some great details that survived through the years.

It's a great house!

It even had a basement.

Anyone know what is up with Golden Seafood's location across from the Farmer's Market.

It was listed in Swamplot's demo report this morning?

http://swamplot.com/daily-demolition-repor...ack/2009-03-03/

It is one of my favorite spots - especially for ceviche.

I wonder if they are moving or rebuilding?

I didn't even know they had closed.

Thanks!

a picture of the Y (in the background) in June 1960 from jb4647 (great pix, thanks).

It's from the Humble Bldg thread (http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/i...mp;#entry309287).

my 1957 and my 1975 phone books have it as Studewood Food Market and Pharmacy

sad if this is the one i think it is. was this on the ne corner?

I think it has to be