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Nice b/w shots.

I'm not familiar with that second one, at all, reminds me of the YMCA bldg. on Hwy 225, near Gulfgate (I-45).

http://www.lib.utexa...eights-1915.jpg

...a question for cemeterywolf or others, in this map, does the cross within the triangle shape near the Olivewood Cemetery signify a church? It would have sat very close to the bayou, n/e of the cemetery grounds. There have been stories of churches that were mistakenly associated with the cemetery, only because they owned plots within the burial grounds. Maybe the cemetery is linked to the church in the map, could have been moved or destroyed, due to it's proximity to the bayou, and/ or flood water. I haven't had any luck identifying which one it was.

http://mycity.housto...oodCemetery.pdf

...this morning, I saw the tail-end of the 1975 documentary on the reclusive relatives(aunt & cousin) of Jackie Bouvier Kennedy Onassis, who lived in the mansion in the Hamptons. Found some links, articles I thought I would share.

Very interesting story. The daughter commented that her house was one that only an architectural student would appreciate. It sat deteriorating for many years, has been restored. One article says there were letters (found in a trunk) now with an archivist, from the heydey of the family's society life, 1930's, I believe.

I haven't seen the mini-series, but know it won many awards.

http://greygardensne...ey-gardens.html

click on each page, enlarge to read.

http://nymag.com/dai...g_grey_gar.html

...click on the "W magazine link", as well.

...if that's the case, too bad if it went into foreclosure, hope it's not neglected too much. The roof design is very unique, not the usual flat roof mod, has three rounded tops. Hope it stays standing.

The Meyerland Plaza (blt. 1960's) theaters had a longer life than it's sister sites at Gulfgate & Northline. Not surprised the Meyer Park theaters are being demolished. The shopping strip never seemed to do very good business, as a whole.Napoli's was there once, left, and before that, that large drug store, sat on the west side. Luby's has always seemed to draw a consistent crowd. That Walmart is fairly new, surprised it would be rebuilt. I'm surprised about the Chili's. HEB is a good idea. What about Schlotsky's?

...one of the bldgs. I grew up with & have always been fascinated with. It's mentioned in the Houston Architecture Guide,

yr. built, 1951, had retail, office & apartment space.

If the deal does go through, hope the bldg. doesn't lose it's very unique personality.

I think we've talked about the Foley's pirate ship shoe dept. briefly, in an older thread...it's been a while back.

I have been lurking on this thread... found this info yesterday: http://clintonaid.webs.com/ appears to refer to the same cemetery

Good find, thanks. Had not seen this before, but have read Mr. Wolf's name many times, in cemetery research. Cemeterywolf, those lat and long coordinates from the website list (for the area we've discussed) did not place me where I thought they would.

Sevfiv, I agree that the area to the east of Maxine St. could have been part of the cemetery. The name Brunsville has come up several times when I've looked at the block books, but found no reference to the cemetery.

...thought this was a good source of info., although I didn't see much in reference to the Clinton Aid Society. I found the info. on the people of the Harrisburg Cemetery very interesting, with cowboys and Sam Houston's aid interred within.

This is a word.doc, had trouble posting the link, let me know if it doesn't work.

paste this in google search, it's the first topic in list, hit the "Quick View" ,

htown.aahgs.org/files/htown_projects_cemeteries.doc

http://hti.math.uh.e...01/06.01.10.pdf

...article containing info. on Galena Park & Clinton, mentioning the Christian Aid Cemetery.

Mentions struggles African Americans endured, even with burial of their families, often taken to hometowns or buried on their own land, and talks of the Christian Aid Cemetery eventually being founded, mentions the freeway built over the cemetery, remains were moved to another cemetery, see pages 134, top of pg. 139. The document says it was a large cemetery.

Excellent historic documentation.

Hmmmm. If I recall correctly there was a small oil town settlement off of 1960 in the Humble area that we called moonshine hill. I don't know if that was one of those "Humble camps" you where talking about. Although I can tell you this for sure there isn't much back there or at least there wasn't when I went looking about five years back. There was a big flood that happened on moonshine hill and the insurance company refused to pay for damages because the houses where build on the flood plains. Now if there are any structures left they typically house the homeless or drug users.

Moonshine Hill, from a name like that, sounds like it had a colorful past...what would be the road names boardering the area?

In the aerial imagery for that location, I see a smattering of houses or shacks and some outbuildings. No indications of a cemetery and no clear fencelines. That is where 610 is now, so if it was there, then it's been lost to history.

I agree, if it was there, the small possible family burial plots would have been moved, present location would sit either within the industrial park (nearest roads being Maxine, Industrial, and Turning Basin), or lost to freeway construction.

Cemeterywolf, where did you hear about the cement wall? Just curious.

http://www.lib.utexa...cinity-1955.jpg

this is a stretch...but northwest of the gun plant, north of Clinton Rd., northeast of the neigborhood for the workers, are letters in an open field, cem with 4 marks, could this be the spot of a very small cemetery, measures approx. 200 yds. from the gun plant.

On the map, see directly north of the words port terminal.

Never given this much thought before, but what happens to swimming pools in area that have these problems? Guess that would be a major headache, as well. Draining and concrete patch up?

Oh never mind, I just found out, it did use to be where Starbucks now is at MCM.

I have good memories of fountains, as well, at Gulfgate, too bad they didn't incorporate them in the new design at MCM. Or are there some new ones, that I've missed?

I tried out the ipad while shopping, can't wait to get one. Will serve my purposes well, looked at the HAIF page while messing with it. I really like it.

http://www.oscarmail...egion_large.jpg

...from a fellow HAIFer Houstorian's Map Compilation, shows Lamb Road.

http://www.lib.utexa...endhal-1915.jpg

...a very eary topo. map from the Univ. of Texas collection, showing the original roads in the area.

http://www.tshaonlin.../articles/hla04

history of Aldine.

http://www.texasfree...ble_highres.jpg

...this TexasFreeways Map shows an airport (Crutcher-Roff-Cummings) next to the south end of the Addicks dam and the Katy Frwy. Wow...not a lot of room.

Too bad, once again...that strip of old bldgs. has always intrigued me. Glad I got some pics a while back. The Architecture Guide, 2nd. Ed., describes the round arched windows. I never realized it was a fire house 'til now. Would have been a nice restoration project.

I'm guessing it's closer to Spring, from the info. you have given. Do you think it is a very old bldg.? Pre-1940's? Just curious.

I did not know where to post this so I decided to roll with Historic Houston. There is a very odd, three-story, dark pink building on the east side of the North Hardy Toll Road. I used to drive to Spring regularly for a former job and passed it all the time. I cannot remember what exits it was near. At first I thought it was a church because of the steep-pitched roof, then a restaurant, then a club. Back in 2004-05, there appeared to be construction going on but everything stopped abruptly and the building materials that were left there began to rot. It also has a lot of decorative black wrought iron on it including a fence. Has anyone ever seen this structure and if so, do you know what it is or was intended to be? I have asked several people who've seen it but no one has any info on it. Do you? Just wondering.

http://www.houstonar...metery__st__200

I've been reading about the farm houses in that area, that were moved due to recurrent flooding. The thesis research one A&M masters student, Andrea Stahman, dug up is incredible, see post #237 by geopainter, in the HAIF link above. What a great paper. It might help with some answers. Has many photos and diagrams included.

My mother worked at the downtown Foley's in the early to mid-1940s. She was a floor supervisor. The day that the "new" Main Street Store downtown was opened (Oct. 20, 1947), my mother made my Dad drive her by the store from our house in Pasadena on the way to the old Houston Osteopathic Hospital to give birth to me. It is hard to believe that Foley's is no more. My mother shopped there until she passed away. I still have her old metal "charge plate" which was the original credit card. I can still remember her dressing up and putting on her hat and gloves and packing us kids in the car to go downtown to Foley's and shop. We would always go eat lunch at the old L&C Cafeteria. I can still remember riding the escalator from the sidewalk street level down to the cafeteria for lunch. We would always go across Main to Battlesteins and Sackowitz, and maybe down the street to Lane Bryant (my grandmother was a large woman). Great memories from the 40s & 50s.

Always nice to hear a personal story, welcome to HAIF. I didn't get to experience the large downtown Foleys, so I love to hear about it. Hopefully some of the remnants are still visible to a keen eye.

My father or grandmother always made a point to drive us downtown to see the Foley's Chrismas display windows, though, in the late '60's.

http://swamplot.com/whats-gonna-go-in-that-big-hole-on-holcombe-where-ihop-used-to-be/2011-04-07/

reminded me of a House of Pies, with that rust color, on GoogleEarth, had a blue roof originally, IHOP.

storage facility makes sense...narrow lot.

That was a very informative article on the Motts & their contributions to Houston. Thanks Simbha, for pointing that out.

Katherine Mott was a cancer survivor, lived many years after diagnosis. Kept on building, what a life.

Cite is such a great source of information, thank you Stephen Fox.

I would love to tour one of her homes. Maybe someday.

Oh, btw, what is a "scissor stair with wrought iron"? ( p.34) ... I've never heard that term before.

I bet it won't take long for something to appear, after demolition. Valuable land, indeed...I am very impressed with Houston's Medical Center.