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Just think, niche stores out, stores we want in. And you get to blame WalMart for destruction of Mom and Pop. Everybody wins!

RUDH has all sorts of propaganda about how mid rise density cities are "the effing tits." I would laugh my ass off if they tried to oppose a midrise apartment development.  Their actual stated goal is mid rise apartments, preferably with retail component.  That was their whole schtick for opposing WalMart is that it should have been midrise mixed use and urban. 

That's the reason I said posts about mid rises on RUDH's facebook's pages are hilarious because all the NIMBY types come out against any type of development, and RUDH has to go "hold on, that's what we're actually for"

They win too. They get millions of dollars to redo their building for the benefit of 300 members.

The joke was that they do not exist and have never existed, in addition to the misrepresentation in the OP.

Everybody wins except "Heights Baptist" which has been sold and is getting demolished and no part will remain. RIP Heights Baptist. We hardly knew ye.

I think its funny on RUDH sites when they post about a new midrise development and all the anti-development NIMBY's that form their core and have nothing to do with the stated goals of the organization start posting negative coments untill whoever the hell is running the place comes up and says "No wait, this is what we are for now!"

My point about the village has nothing to do with how many SF of retail and all about the fact that shopping centers rich enough to have mall chain stores (Rice Village, Highland Village, River Oaks) are surrounded by some of the richest residential real estate in the city. The idea that that kind of retail development would be bad for home values is astonishingly ludicrous.

This Baptist Temple thing is really kinda tame, small beans.  The real story will be what is Weingarten's long term plan for the block across the street. When they redevelop or sell, will it be retail like the Village Arcade? Will it be apartments? Both?

If 19th street was full of stores from the mall, people wouldn't be beating each other over the head to buy a house in the Heights. 

This is a laughable claim.  Have you ever been to, say, Rice Village?

This site is being prepared.  Expect outrage over tree loss at any moment.

Except that 19th St is a much more commercialized area than White Oak. White Oak is one narrow strip in a neighborhood. The area around 19th street is about 6 or 7  eighth mile by eighth mile squares (14 or more entire blocks) where there are very few residences and instead there are hospitals, banks, churches, schools, businesses, stores, utility areas, and major streets with street front parking including the Blvd ie tons and tons and tons of places to park without doing so in front of somebody's house unlike White Oak.  It would be better for the neighborhood if White Oak was more like 19th and vice versa, IMO. (Not that I would be enthused about White Oak being a bunch of old boring shops that serve more as a "look how things were in the old timey days main streets!" novelty spot)

Just pull up Google maps and compare the overhead satellite imagery of the 19th and Rutland and the surrounding blocks and then compare to White Oak and Studewood.

I actually take it back, I do go to 19th on occasion but not where we are talking about.  I go up Nicholson to Penzey's occasionally, and I eat at Collina's and Thai Spice...basically the places in the suburban style strip malls.  I'm never going to run into a Mom and Pop like a middle aged woman looking for crafts, I'm only going somewhere that has something I need, or food, or drink.

I basically never go to 19th street.  The only hope for changing that right now is Torchy's. The closest I get is typically McDonald's or CVS on Yale.

It's also connected to the Church some portion will need to be demoed on both sides regardless.

Old glass is wavy and not uniform in thickness due to older imprecise manufacturing methods, whereas modern techniques produce glass that has perfectly smooth surfaces and uniform thicknesses.  Once the glass is made, it doesn't really change.  The glass in your old windows has probably always looked like that.

The church is also called Baptist Temple, since some haven't seemed to pick up on that yet.

I think its probably more like 25,000 SF.  Also the article linked says that the church considered selling their lot as well, but that the price received for what they did sell was good enough that they didn't have to.

If you think your post was an accurate reflection, and mine was childish lies, then whatever.

Lets get back on topic then and discuss the following events.

Braun buys Heights Baptist on 20th to demolish for retail

 

Same guys who are doing Harolds.  But, they are not going to try to save any part of the church. 

Real shame that Heights Baptist was sold. I can't believe no part of Heights Baptist is going to be saved.  Hopefully the new development is strip center retail, because I like it.

Glass is not a liquid and it generally does not flow.

The implications of your post is clearly that Braun bought a church (Heights Baptist), is going to demolish it for retail, and that no part of the church will be saved.  Then you go on to give your opinion about it.  Do you claim that this is not what your original post says?

I clicked it because I wondered if you meant Baptist Temple, then I read it and its almost like you didn't even read it to come up with that post.  They aren't selling the entire church and it sounds like they are incorporating elements from the buildings they are selling into the new development.

As for the rest of the "it would have been built anyway" I pretty much agree.  But unfortunately there was a very vocal minority of folks in the area that thought it would be a good idea to frame their anti-WalMart message into an argument over aesthetics, infrastructure inadequacies, traffic pattern problems, that made getting this money from the city the politically expedient way to get a high dollar development the city wanted built to get done.

There is no "taking $6 mil"

They did not get $6 mil and then pocket it by not spending it.  Ainbinder must spend its own money on the front end on things the city agrees to pay for to get reimbursed.

This is also a $40 million development, the city is going to be getting roughly $250k-$300k per year in property taxes alone, and probably something like $2 million or more per year in city sales taxes from all businesses in the center (vast majority coming from WalMart sales.  Then you have all the anciliary benefits of job creation, etc. The city will make its money back easily very quickly, having spent $6 million on things that needed to be done.

I get that by watching Channel 8

Wonder how they'll handle beer sales?

I can make a very long list of restaurants that I would rather see go in than Pluckers

You shut your trap!