Firebird65

Actually, those schools are open, but they're some sort of magnet or alternative schools. Same thing with Carver in the Aldine ISD.

Well, while we're at it, if any one has any info on the old Addick's High School or Cedar Bayou High School, it would be appreciated. I am fairly confident Addicks closed in the late 1940s when construction started on the reservoir. But what happened to the students and the district itself? I live on Westheimer and Gessner, and according to an old map, the northwest corner of that intersection was the southeasternmost part of the Addicks school district. Now it's part of HISD. Apparently, the district was split between Katy, Spring Branch and HISD, and perhaps Cy-Fair too. Anyone know about that or the history of the school? As for Cedar Bayou, I know the school became a junior high in the Goose Creek ISD in 1953 when the Cedar Bayou district was absorbed by GCISD. Anyone know the history of that school? Reason I'm asking is that I'm doing a history of my high school's football team and we played both of these schools in the 1940s.

I ate once at that Shakey's and it was on Crosstimbers, not Cavalcade (easily mistaken, done it myself). Speaking of pizza places, I came across an ad from 1974 for Straw Hat Pizza. Ate at the one on Airline at West Road.

LOL! Funny you should mention that 1996 Yates game. I was just looking at the story from that game right now on the Chronicle's archives. Total domination on both sides of the ball. Defense limits a powerful Yates team to 35 total yards. That's it. Didn't go to that game. Unfortunately I went the next week to the Westlake game. Must have been a great one.

That 1987 Aldine/Forest Brook game held the record for most combined points for about a decade. The Chronicle loved talking about it and bringing it up whenever teams approached it. It finally fell sometime in the mid 1990s. Don't have that info as it wasn't Aldine who broke it so I didn't bother to write it down but it's very easily found on the Chronicle's archives. The two teams combined for 46 first downs (25 by FB and 21 by Aldine). Neiother of those are even close to any kind of record. And you wouldn't expect them to be as in order to score 118 points in 48 minutes you need lots of big, quick long distance plays rather than slow, grinding plays to get first downs. The teams combined for 1,273 total yards (another state record since broken). Aldine tallied 683 (615 rushing) and Forest Brook gained 590 (485 passing). The 683 yards are the most Aldine has ever gotten in a game that I've found as is the 615 rushing. The 65 points scored ranks fourth on the all-time Mustang list (third at the time of occurance). 69 is the most the team has ever scored - against Nimitz in 1990. The 118 points ar the most points for both teams in an Aldine game and 53 points given up is obviously the most the team has ever given up in a win. QB Lionell Crawford scored 5 TDs to tie the school record. J.D. Rogers scored five in a game against Cedar Bayou in 1942 and Patrick Randle scored five against Spring Woods in 1999. Crawford threw for one more to give him a hand in six scoring plays. Rogers threw for two in his game. RB Calvin Wilson ran for 244 yards, but while close in 1987, that wasn't a school record. Don Burrisk rushed for 1,717 yards in 10 games in 1969 on a team that finished 5-5. The school record is today held by Deandre Lewis (now with the Seawhawks) with 1,921 in 1996. However, Lewis accomplished his yardage in 15 games. Burrisk's total now ranks third. No one has come close to Burrisk's 171 yards per game average. Nor has anyone ever duplicated his number of 200 yard games. Burrisk rushed for 200 yards once in 1968 and four more times in 1969. I believe Burrisk made all state in 1969, but I haven't found anything to confirm that. A story in 1971 alludes to Burrisk being named all state when it talks about another great Aldine back, Bill Hudson. The story says Hudson could be the Ponies' next Burrisk and be Aldine's next all state candidate. The way it was worded leads me to believe Burrisk made all state in 1969. Burrisk went on to play at University of Texas and played in the 1972 Cotton Bowl against Penn State where he had 7 carries for 43 yards and 3 catches for 45. Although his teams saw little success, when you talk about great Aldine players, you most definitely have to mention Don Burrisk.

So far work progresses on my football history report for Aldine. A few more tidbits... if for nothing else than to bump this thread to the top: Most yards by an individual in a game: 303 by Doug Womack vs Deer Park in the 1989 Area playoff. Fewest first downs by an opponent: 2 vs Smiley in 1980

That history section is a little sparse, but it's a good starting point. It's how I figured who Marrs High was named for. Until reading that, I didn't know the Marrs name included the initials SMN. After that, I found the bio for State Supt Marrs. Still not sure why they named it for him. I can still see no connection.

Oh, well... Hope they didn't throw out my permanent record! "If you don't behave, this will go in your permanent record and you'll be branded for life!" On second thought...

Yes, I am familiar with WOS87. I'm not quite sure where he got his info... I'm thinking it's texpreps.com because his numbers and theirs have the same discrepancies. That has to do with those missing games I posted about earlier and some curious potential errors I've found in news sources that I think I've corrected but they haven't. Don't want to bore you with the details (I explain them in my report) but one them has to do with that game I mentioned earlier where one paper said Aldine beat La Porte and the other one said La Porte beat Aldine in 1945. Apparently they went with the later and I found info that shows the former was actually true, so our numbers for that season differ. He showsa Aldine with 422 wins and I can only come up with 419. I do point out the discrepancies in my report and show exactly where I think they are along with my evidence to support why I have the numbers I have. Not discounting I could be wrong, of course. As for Conroe, the Tigers were number 2 in the AP state poll and number one in the Chronicle local poll. Indeed, the Chronicle headline for that game was, "ALDINE CLIPS NO. 1 CONROE" -- meaning their number one team. I'd love to include that story, along with other big games such as the 1948 El Campo upset, in my report, but apparently the Chronicle forbids such things as they so state in their copyright line. Bummer. Those stories are what bring the report to life. Yeah, I skipped the Odessa Permian game too. At first me and a friend were going to drive to Dallas, but with the weather so poor, we changed our mind. (According to official National Weather Service Records, it was 7 degree at IAH, the coldest ever record there and second coldest day ever in Houston). We thought about taking the bus caravan the school organized, but, unfortunately, we also had tickets for that night's Oiler fiasco against Cleveland. That was the year the team was 9-5 going into the final two games and only had to win one of two to clinch the division... and both games were at home. Naturally, being the Oilers, they not only lost one, but went ahead and lost them both and the playoff game after that too in Jerry Glanville's swan song. Man, if I had a choice of which loss to take... one in the warm, toasty Dome or one in freezing Texas Stadium, I'd have taken Texas Stadium. At least Aldine tried and lost against a superior opponent in very adverse conditions. The Oilers simply laid yet another rotten egg.

Yup, done all of that. The texashsfootball one is actually missing Aldine's 1996 record. But thanks for the info. Here's another tidbit for you: The Mustangs are 1-1-1 all-time against the state's top-ranked team in the AP poll. In 1981 they tied Port Arthur Jefferson 21-21 in bidistrict, advancing on penetrations. Was at that game and I've never heard the Dome so loud. In 1988 the 8th ranked Ponies lost 21-7 to Willowridge in a Week 2 showdown. And, in 1989, they shocked Converse Judson 48-14 on a freezing day in San Antonio in the 5A state semifinals. I was at that game and whew... that was one coooooooooold day. Spent five hours on the road for a game that lasted 90 minutes. There was no halftime... at least no bands. No one threw the ball which thankfully kept the clock running. All-time against state-ranked teams, Aldine is 16-24-2. First win over a state-ranked opponent was a 30-6 spanking of then 8th ranked Forest Brook.

Yeah, I know all about that Collier-Sharp web site... that's was the first place I started my research. As for the Falfurrias game, the news report I read merely mentioned the TD and extra point were on the final play of the game. Didn't say anything about how people had gone back to the dressing room. But I have no reason to doubt the story you heard was true. Wow... I've been to Falfurrias... and that's a long way even now. Imagine making that trip in 1948, leaving the game all happy and then finding out later what had happened! BTW... that Falfurrias game was a week after what arguably could still be called the biggest win in Aldine history. The week before, the Mustangs had pulled an incredible 20-0 upset of El Campo, which entered the game at old Rice Stadium having won 33 straight games. And if your contact has that information I'm missing, that would be fantastic. For the 1936 and 1937 games, I have zero info. the 1938 game against Webster was the fifth game of the year. I believe Aldine won that game, but I have no idea as to the score. The 1939 Willis game was the season opener and I know Aldine won it based on later reports that give the Mustang's season record. But again, I don't know the score. Same goes for the 1942 Webster game, which was the eighth game of the season. As I said in another post, if I leave off the area history part and concentrate solely on football, I could be finished in about a month. I've also got lengthy sidebars on Aldine area history (a lot of which I've posted on the board), the history of my neighborhood and on popular culture of the times. That's the time consuming part. I can always include that in a later version.

Actually, I looked through my yearbooks for the scores from 1980 through 1983... and once I saw numerous mistakes (including names, dates, district numbers and scores), decided that probably wasn't a good alternative. Not that I haven't spotted glaring errors in Chronicle or Post stories... but... I may well do that as a last resort, however. Problem is, I now live on the west side of town and it's not convenient to go by the school. And, that's assuming they even have yearbooks from those years. I kinda doubt they do. Seems that was one of the first ideas I had, but then noticed that my copy of my 1980 yearbook was something like Volume 34 or 36, which means Volume 1 would have been in the mid 1940s and not the late 1930s. Plus, since the school burned down in 1954, it's likely any yearbooks would have been destroyed too. But I'll still probably give it a shot at the very end. Can't hurt.

Doubt I'll publish it, but I'd be happy to e-mail you a pdf of it when I'm done. I'm not too far away from finishing, provided I leave out all the area history part... that's what's been taken all my time. If I leave that for later, I could have just the scores and season highlights done within a month and save the other stuff for an expanded version later. I've compiled all the scores and standings from 1936 to 2005. I'm missing five scores (out of more than 700), so I figure I've got about 99 percent of the games. Unfortunately, I'm missing (or think I'm missing) what is, to me, the most important game of all... the first one. From what I've been able to piece together, Aldine only played three games its inaugural season. I've found two of them. Only one game was covered by a newspaper, and that was a 37-0 loss to La Porte on October 17, 1936. Of course, when you get beat 37-0, you don't have too many highlights, and as such, Aldine doesn't get mentioned at all in the story... it's all La Porte. The next week, Aldine lost to some school called Huntsville Demonstration 39-0. Huntsville Demonstration was a school run out of Sam Houston State University. It apparently didn't last long after the 1930s. There was no story on this game, only a notation in the weekly scoreboard. I can't find the third game nor do I know who it was against or the date it was played. I'm only guessing at its existence because a web site called texpreps.com says that Aldine was 0-3 in their first year. I've found about five errors on their site, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt here. So, maybe the La Porte game was Aldine's first. Or maybe this other game was. I simply don't know. I've contacted the high school and the school district. Aldine's head coach says all records were thrown out when they remodeled the field house. I never heard back from the AISD athletic director. And never could get anyone at the UIL or texpreps.com to return messages. Pretty frustrating, I'll tell you. Of the five games I'm missing, one is from 1936, one from 1937, one from 1938, one from 1939, one from 1942. The 1936 and 1937 games I don't know anything about. The 1938 and 1942 games were against Webster (now Clear Creek) and the 1939 game was against Willis. I've contacted both Clear Creek and Willis. Willis doesn't have records going back that far and I never heard back from Clear Creek. Here to whet your appetite are the scores from what might well be one of the best Aldine teams ever: 1941 District 29-A champion Mustangs. * - District game v Somerville Yeguas - W 54-0 v Milby Buffaloes - W 7-0 v La Porte Bulldogs* - W 7-0 v Humble Wildcats - W 19-0 v Cypress Bobcats* - W 30-0 v Tomball Cougars* - W 13-7 v Crosby Buffaloes* - W 44-0 v Webster Wildcats* - W 39-0 Bidistrict Playoff v Richmond Tigers - W 20-13 Conference A Region 8 Championship v Navasota Rattlers - L 6-40 Wins 9 Losses 1 Conference A teams only played to a regional championship until 1948. Only AA played to a state title. The game against Richmond, interestingly enough, was played on Friday, December 5, 1941 - two days before Pearl Harbor. This was Aldine's first undeated seasin, first district championship and first playoff win. The previous year, Aldine captured a district zone title (akin to winning the Big 12 South), but lost the District Championship game to Pasadena. There was no district championship game in 1941 as the other zone winner, Galena Park, was banned from the postseason for using an ineligible player, as was the runnerup, Freeport. The team pitched seven shutouts on 1941, a team record that still stands. They opened the season with five consecutive shutouts, a record they share with the 1940 team, who closed their year with five consecutive whitewashes. That means that Aldine shut out 10 consecutive regular season opponents over the last five games of 1940 and the first five of 1941. The only exception was the aforementioned 35-7 loss in the 1940 District 29-A title game. The Milby game has an interesting background. That was to have been an open week for Aldine. Conference AA Milby's scheduled opponent backed out at the last minute and their coach called Aldine and arranged a game on short notice. With almost no prep time, the Conference A Mustangs shut out the Conference AA Buffs 7-0 in what was considered a big upset. Here was the starting lineup for that team. Do note that teams played "one platoon" or "ironman" football - meaning player played both offense and defense: Left End Whitfield Left Tackle Walla Left Guard Roach Center Youngdoff Right Guard Martin Right Tackle Rigby Right End Cornwell Quarterback Slaughter Left Half Jones Right Half Deaton Fullback Mendel

Yeah, I'm with you... Alamo would have been a great name for a high school, although San Antonio has first dibs on that name. However, if you go back over the thread, there's a great deal of speculation that the land the current Aldine High sits on wasn't a cow pasture, but some sort of private airfield called Gulf Coast Airport. Unfortunately, we haven't been able to get any more so far. If I ever manage to get back to the Texas Room at the old library downtown, I'll just try to look it up in an old phone book from 1953 or earlier. That ought to give an address. Then I'll just keep going back in the books until it doesn't appear anymore, and that will give an approximation as to when it started. But first I gotta get down to the Texas Room first.

Yeah, now I can see that too. Jensen and Aldine Westfield. Yup. "Bender's Bridge"... I think Bender is the name of the person who founded Humble and also had something to do with the name of the Bender community at the end of Aldine Bender Road. But if Bender's Bridge is on Creek, that's not close to either of those. Still, it must be the same guy... not like there were that many Benders running around back then. Maybe people ON a Bender... Also, that area identified as "North Houston" would appear to be the area around Weiss Park. I've never heard of that area called that. I always thought North Houston was formally the area around where 249 splits into West Montgomery and West Mountain Houston. Lots of later maps pinpoint it there.

Nice pics. Almost the same perspective, which makes it easy to compare. I never went to Westbury... don't know a thing about it. But it sure looks like there were A LOT of changes over the years. For starters, it appears the school has more than doubled in size. I can see the original building and it appears as if they've added quite a bit in back of it. But it also looks like they took something off the front. If you look at the bottom center part of the school in the sat photo and in your 1966 pic, the front contour appears to be more recessed, as if they removed that 3 story part with what seems like a covered walkway. What's that over by the baseball diamond in the satellite photo? Are those classrooms? They look almost like temporary buildings. If they are, I sure they give the students plenty of time between classes 'cause that's a hike going from one of those to the front of the school. I notice that water tower is gone, although there is a circle on the ground where it once stood. But like you, what I don't notice is parking, save for that one tiny lot on the right hand side. Those temporary looking buildings have filled in the 1966 lot. Apparently if you want to drive, you have to park on the street along the left side and top of the picture.

I see the road that comes from the south and veers to the right is called Atascosita Road. I can't see what the name of the one branching off that goes through North Houston. Do you know the name of that one? And what's the other diagonal line on the left? A railroad? And interestingly enough, the map simply calls it Cross Timber with no plural. Guess the other timber came later? LOL!

Not sure when it stopped. The organization that ordered AISD to surrender Oak Forest to HISD was the Harris County School Board, which is no longer around. I thought the county school board went out of business with the Gilmer-Akins laws of 1949 which reorganized education on a state level, but obviously I was mistaken there. A haphazard guess would be that the practice of HISD ended when the Harris County School Board was dissolved, whenever that happened. It definitely was gone by 1978, because AISD didn't have to give Hidden Valley to HISD when the city took in that neighborhood nor did the Clear Creek ISD become part of HISD when Houston annexed Clear Lake City. And apparently it had ended before the city annexed Acres Homes, because HISD didn't take the AISD part of that community. I don't have any children nor will I be having any children, so I guess as far as HISD taking over all education in Harris County that has no real immediate impact on me. However, why in the world would you want such a thing??? HISD already has enough problems of their own, so growing by several hundred percent surely won't help them get any better... probably will make things worse. At the very least, an all-county HISD (or HCISD as in Harris County ISD) would up probably continue their policy of decentralization. So what would be the point of putting everything together if they're just going to keep control local? isuredid, for some odd reason I can't respond to your post. Keeps coming up as "cannot find server." But I can reply to others... weird. Anyway, your ideas about Airline sure sound a lot more plausible than the source where I got my information. I found mine in a Houston Chronicle story about how streets got their name. The story quotes a book at the HPL Texas Room. But that sotry about a "crow flying in an air line" sure sounds kinda dumb. But then, that brings the question about how the subdivision named Airline got its name!

I'd like to do just that, provided I can find accurate enough information to do so. There's a map at the Texas Room that shows what I believe to be AISD's original boundaries. Here's a very crude and quite bad picture I took of it that unfortunately has glare on it. Original AISD Boundaries Since this map is built on today's street grid, it's quite easy to see that Acres Homes and the Inwood areas are obviously not part of AISD. From what I've found, Acres Homes became part of AISD when AISD and HISD split the old White Oak district in 1937. Unfortunately, my pic doesn't show the White Oak district because at the time I took it months ago when I began this project, the relevance of that info didn't occur to me. I would suppose that Oak Forest was part of of White Oak school district. In 1949 (I believe) AISD took over part of the North Houston district, part of which is shown on that map. In 1958, AISD was forced to cede Oak Forest to HISD. So far that's all the changes I know. Hopefully someone else will point out others or correct me if I am wrong. Next time I go back, I'll make sure to get pictures of not only the Aldine segment, but also the surrounding districts such as the defunct White Oak and North Houston districts.

Thanks for that post. If you have any stories of the area during the time you lived there, by all means please share them. I'd be particularly interested in the businesses in the area at the time and what things people did for entertainment in the area. You could be right about a district's border changing. Yesterday I came across a story from 1958 that discussed how AISD was upset and considering appealing a ruling that forced the district to cede the neighborhood of Oak Forest to HISD. HISD took Oak Forest from Aldine after the city of Houston annexed the neighborhood. Apparently, at one time in the past, every time the city annexed an area, it also became part of HISD. I've also seen stories about Pasadena ISD speaking of how they lost slices of their district when Houston annexed unincorporated parts of PISD. The story about AISD losing Oak Forest cleared up a mystery for me concerning the Aldine High fire of 1954. AISD mentioned transferring high school students to Aldine Elementary and then moving the elementary students to Inez Carroll and Katherine Smith Elementaries. However, Smith was 15 miles away in Oak Forest and that meant a long bus ride. I kept wondering why AISD was talking about an HISD school. Now I can see why... because in 1954 it wasn't HISD, it was AISD.

No, I don't think that's right. I am quite confident you were correct with your original post. According to what I've found, Northline Terrace Sections 2 and 3 were on Martin KSnell/W L Hill Lot 118, which accroding to that great map you provided the other dayt was on the extreme western edge of the survey. Northline Terrace Section 2 However, Northline Terrace Section 1 was in the D Hacker and Phillip Tharp Surveys, according to the Harris County Block Books and thus does not lie on that map. Sweetwater, which runs through Section 1, was also once called Hacker, presumably after the Hacker of the Hacker Survey. Northline Terrace Section 1

Thanks again. I've got plenty of leads when I finally get down there to fill in the few remaining blanks.

Actually, I had done that pic about nine months ago and it was the genesis of my history report on the area and the football team. I've only just now learned how to post a pic.

I've taken the original 1959 photo that prompted this thread and added some street names as well as outlined Aldine High School. The star represents where my parents' house will stand in 1966.

Wow, the two of you are great researchers. I bet if I asked for Snell's shoe size, both of you could get it! This is a great thread. Keep it up.