clutchcity94

Is this rendering “final final”? I feel like with how low the stock market is today compared to what it was when disco Kroger was demolished last year, they should just wait it out for a market rebound instead of settling for this mediocre rendering.  Same logic for why a lot of tech start ups are holding off on IPOs this year.

8 hours ago, Urbannizer said:

https://www.southeastern.company/portfolio/montrose-houston/

 

This is less impressive than 4641 Montrose!

5 minutes ago, hindesky said:

They seem like a leasing company and not a company that sells properties.

Looks like they’re affiliated with the ownership group that’s owned 3939 Montrose since 2012 (see below).

10 minutes ago, hindesky said:

Not Listed anymore.

I see it here now: http://www.rhsint.com/3939-montrose.html

This whole shopping strip seems nearly vacant. Any redevelopment plans in the works?

On 3/25/2022 at 4:34 PM, hindesky said:

Workers still on site but looks close to opening.

Is this essentially what the one at 4503 Montrose will look like?

3 hours ago, Texasota said:

The first one is Audio Video Plus, which, I guess ClutchCity94 hasn't lived in Montrose that long. It's never been pretty, but it hasn't been vacant *that* long. The real mystery is how it stayed open as long as it did.

 

The third one is Mark's/March. 

 

I think the whole topic is over-stated at best. EADO still has a ton of vacant land, and two of the examples given for Montrose (Disco Kroger and the Tower Community Center) were torn down with the intention of replacing them.

 

Now, if Skanska never does anything with the Tower block, that's a different story. 

Not my post; I just came across it on Reddit and found it interesting.

LINK TO REDDIT POST (quoted below):

What's going on with Montrose?

I've lived in Montrose for going on 5 years now, and it's routinely touted as Houston's premiere walk-able neighborhood. That being said, I've noticed a number of business closings and deterioration of commercial properties in the area for a while now, outside of the obvious ones of Disco Kroger and the neighboring Half-Price books strip mall. Residential property values in the area haven't accrued that much either.

This has been abandoned as long as I've lived here:

[https://www.google.com/maps/place/1233+Waugh+Dr,+Houston,+TX+77019/@29.7556276,-95.3980337,3a,75y,84.08h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s42FFwIxh6Sssix4vJ8Lwlw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D42FFwIxh6Sssix4vJ8Lwlw%26cb\_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D84.081406%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m8!1m2!2m1!1ssnap+kitchen!3m4!1s0x8640c0a6c0e4b92f:0x7ace05e043dbd460!8m2!3d29.7556486!4d-95.3978137](https://www.google.com/maps/place/1233+Waugh+Dr,+Houston,+TX+77019/@29.7556276,-95.3980337,3a,75y,84.08h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s42FFwIxh6Sssix4vJ8Lwlw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D42FFwIxh6Sssix4vJ8Lwlw%26cb_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D84.081406%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m8!1m2!2m1!1ssnap+kitchen!3m4!1s0x8640c0a6c0e4b92f:0x7ace05e043dbd460!8m2!3d29.7556486!4d-95.3978137)

Hay Merchant is just a trash dump now:

[https://www.google.com/maps/place/3050+Waugh+Dr,+Houston,+TX+77007/@29.7448067,-95.3926265,3a,75y,294.35h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shdGLQ2xrlaHtL6jyJGvGxw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DhdGLQ2xrlaHtL6jyJGvGxw%26cb\_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D294.35355%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m8!1m2!2m1!1shay+merchant!3m4!1s0x8640bfadd2e6b15d:0x1901f66de34eb13!8m2!3d29.7448785!4d-95.3928514](https://www.google.com/maps/place/3050+Waugh+Dr,+Houston,+TX+77007/@29.7448067,-95.3926265,3a,75y,294.35h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shdGLQ2xrlaHtL6jyJGvGxw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DhdGLQ2xrlaHtL6jyJGvGxw%26cb_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D294.35355%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m8!1m2!2m1!1shay+merchant!3m4!1s0x8640bfadd2e6b15d:0x1901f66de34eb13!8m2!3d29.7448785!4d-95.3928514)

Whatever this was is a trash dump as well now:

[https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+Salty/@29.7427931,-95.4015998,3a,75y,358.22h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMwH8b1vYxVFbrlCcz4P0Bg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DMwH8b1vYxVFbrlCcz4P0Bg%26cb\_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D358.22314%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m8!1m2!2m1!1shay+merchant!3m4!1s0x8640c12148a6af5d:0x7cb5302f5e72cd71!8m2!3d29.7432096!4d-95.4016148](https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+Salty/@29.7427931,-95.4015998,3a,75y,358.22h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMwH8b1vYxVFbrlCcz4P0Bg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DMwH8b1vYxVFbrlCcz4P0Bg%26cb_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D358.22314%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m8!1m2!2m1!1shay+merchant!3m4!1s0x8640c12148a6af5d:0x7cb5302f5e72cd71!8m2!3d29.7432096!4d-95.4016148)

Fenced off, but still abandoned for some time:

[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Handies+Douzo/@29.7370702,-95.3909341,3a,75y,162.87h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sV1t8145ijYwyQfgI1XQRLg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DV1t8145ijYwyQfgI1XQRLg%26cb\_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D162.86803%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m8!1m2!2m1!1ssnap+kitchen!3m4!1s0x8640bf309d6bd609:0xc4cd02cbe02e809a!8m2!3d29.7368422!4d-95.3908508](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Handies+Douzo/@29.7370702,-95.3909341,3a,75y,162.87h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sV1t8145ijYwyQfgI1XQRLg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DV1t8145ijYwyQfgI1XQRLg%26cb_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D162.86803%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m8!1m2!2m1!1ssnap+kitchen!3m4!1s0x8640bf309d6bd609:0xc4cd02cbe02e809a!8m2!3d29.7368422!4d-95.3908508)

I hopped over to EaDo recently, and that place is an adult Disney World, with breweries, comedy clubs and the Truck Yard, with new places that opened up since the last time I was there. Not saying that this is the best kind of development, but I'm wondering why the neighborhoods are going in such different directions. Is it just the presence of the stadiums that's doing it?

6 minutes ago, hindesky said:

One house down.

It’s crazy they’re knocking the house at 4312 Greeley down. It was really nicely renovated and had a pool and everything. I remember going to the open house back in 2019, just before it sold for $749,000. I wonder how much the developer paid the homeowner that bought for $749k.

31 minutes ago, hindesky said:

Looking at their web site that is all EZ Demolitions do, I don't see anything that they built on their site.

I haven’t followed this thread in full, but do we know what the replacement building is going to be exactly? Will it still be a housing complex for at-risk youth? I see that the new build info is still associated with Covenant House, but not sure if they’re using it for another purpose.

5 hours ago, hindesky said:

http://ezdemolitions.com

Wait they’re demolishing this?!

21 minutes ago, HNathoo said:

I’d say so. Surface parked 1-2 story development versus underground garage with mixed use 6 story building. 

Good point.

41 minutes ago, HNathoo said:

The best montrose development sites trade for double the best heights development sites. 

Interesting. So Montrose Collective dirt is worth 2x Heights Mercantile dirt?

17 minutes ago, hindesky said:

I think that fact that Montrose is closer to downtown, TMC, and both Rice and UH makes it more desirable for more high rises. I could see Montrose Blvd lined with high rises in 20 years.

I agree, and one of the things I’ve noticed is that development patterns in Montrose are more “Houston” than development patterns in the Heights.  For example, a lot of the new construction residential and commercial properties in the Heights look a lot more put together and organized, whereas Montrose, while still really nice, looks a bit more haphazard. There are countless residential streets in both neighborhoods with early 20th century bungalows, but for some reason the pride of ownership is a lot more apparent in the Heights, in terms of upkeep, being freshly painted and photogenic, etc. I always wondered why that was the case. Perhaps most of these bungalows in Montrose are rental properties and not primary residences?

Not sure if this is the right forum, but I wanted to start a discussion about development patterns and how they differ/compare between Montrose and the Heights.

From a developer’s perspective, is one considered to be more “prime real estate” than the other? How does ppsf compare?

What will each neighborhood look like 20 years from now and will one be more “desirable” than the other?

Wasn’t able to get a picture, but this eyesore is finally down! Looks like it’s owned by the same guy who owns the old school multi family complex next door. I wonder what he’s going to build here.

1 hour ago, IntheKnowHouston said:

Chef Martin Stayer and team (Nobie's) are taking over the former space of Revelry at 1613 Richmond Ave. Stayer is opening another dining concept possibly named Nonno's there. 

The restaurant will be next door to its sister concepts the Toasted Coconut and speakeasy Quiote at 1617 Richmond Ave.

 

Exciting! Stopped by Quiote once pre-pandemic and it was fantastic. Excited to see that it’s coming back.

45 minutes ago, hindesky said:

Now Cherry Companies can get to work doing what they do best, tearing shit up.

I certainly hope this building isn’t another Post 510.  This section of Richmond needs some power washing and updating.

On 8/13/2022 at 12:22 PM, hindesky said:

Didn't get a pic but the brick has already been taken off.

Anyone know what’s going in here? Has it recently traded?

10 minutes ago, august948 said:

Pictures from yelp show it served on a bed of french fries.  Did they really serve it that way?

 Yes- it was delicious. Came with rice as well.

Anyone know when Jeni’s Ice Cream in. Montrose is scheduled to open?

12 minutes ago, 004n063 said:

Thiên Ân & Pho Saigon are also worth a shoutout.

 

Also, I personally love that the topic of this thread has now become Vietnamese food in and around Midtown. 

RIP Cafe #13 on Milam. They had the best shaking beef in the city before they abruptly closed.

20 hours ago, 004n063 said:

I agree - very noticeable. Also, as with the BigTex one on Montrose, pretty nice use of highway-adjacent space. Gives shade and noise dampening to the adjacent blocks

How much noise dampening does it actually provide given that the Montrose Big Tex is next to the part of 59 that’s below grade?

22 minutes ago, Triton said:

The dumpling place across the street didn't last long either and it had a pretty nice interior too!

Why is the shelf like for casual Montrose restaurants so short?! Doesn’t seem to be the case in the Heights.