mattyt36 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I surprisingly can't find an article in the general press but the Bond Buyer is reporting the City of Glendale (which built the arena) kicked the Coyotes to the curb and a potential deal with Tempe is on the rocks. Glendale, Arizona, unties its future from professional hockey | Bond Buyer In August, the city announced that it would not renew the Coyotes’ lease after the current season, leaving the team without a home arena or even office space lined up for the 2022-2023 season. Coyotes ownership in September was the only respondent to a request for proposals the city of Tempe set out to develop a city owned 46-acre brownfield site. The team says it will build an arena and entertainment district there in time for the 2025-26 season. “While the submittal is evaluated, and the city engages in intensive due diligence, Tempe representatives cannot discuss the matter,” the city says on its website. According to a recent report by the website PHNX Sports, the proposal is in trouble at the Tempe City Council level. (Should this be a separate thread?) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 1/18/2022 at 9:03 AM, mattyt36 said: (Should this be a separate thread?) Good idea. I've split this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 It should happen. It makes financial sense as one of the Big 4 and he controls Toyota Center. But Tilman has his eyes on a bigger prize …Chelsea FC. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Wondering if we did end up with a new (relocated) NHL franchise if the Toyota Center’s days would be numbered? It’s 20 years old next year, and while I am not advocating its replacement I do understand that with 2 major league teams using it that in the next ~5-10 years I couldn’t imagine the team owners not pushing for a brand new facility. *assuming we land an NHL franchise* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 3/30/2022 at 5:32 PM, arche_757 said: Wondering if we did end up with a new (relocated) NHL franchise if the Toyota Center’s days would be numbered? It’s 20 years old next year, and while I am not advocating its replacement I do understand that with 2 major league teams using it that in the next ~5-10 years I couldn’t imagine the team owners not pushing for a brand new facility. *assuming we land an NHL franchise* I sure would endorse such a plan, as long as it stayed downtown. The Toyota Center is certainly underwhelming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 3/30/2022 at 5:32 PM, arche_757 said: Wondering if we did end up with a new (relocated) NHL franchise if the Toyota Center’s days would be numbered? It’s 20 years old next year, and while I am not advocating its replacement I do understand that with 2 major league teams using it that in the next ~5-10 years I couldn’t imagine the team owners not pushing for a brand new facility. *assuming we land an NHL franchise* 6 minutes ago, mattyt36 said: I sure would endorse such a plan, as long as it stayed downtown. The Toyota Center is certainly underwhelming. Toyota Center isn't going anywhere if anything it will get renovated like they have plans to do already and like other arenas that are about the same age has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, kennyc05 said: Toyota Center isn't going anywhere if anything it will get renovated like they have plans to do already and like other arenas that are about the same age has done. Boo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, mattyt36 said: Boo There's nothing wrong with the building it just needs a renovation like At&t Center in San Antonio and State Farm Arena in Atlanta lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Anyone know the end date for the Toyota brand that adorns the roof (and name)? I’d be happy with an update, but is it NHL caliber? Was it built with that intention in mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 6 hours ago, kennyc05 said: There's nothing wrong with the building it just needs a renovation like At&t Center in San Antonio and State Farm Arena in Atlanta lol Well I guess I hope Tilman isn't successful in becoming a "football" club owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 4 hours ago, arche_757 said: Anyone know the end date for the Toyota brand that adorns the roof (and name)? I’d be happy with an update, but is it NHL caliber? Was it built with that intention in mind? Hey great question. Google says 20 year deal beginning 2003. That would mean it’s up next year. Rockets get the money, so I guess good chance it’ll be a Tilman brand? Golden Nugget Arena? Yikes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 8 hours ago, arche_757 said: Anyone know the end date for the Toyota brand that adorns the roof (and name)? I’d be happy with an update, but is it NHL caliber? Was it built with that intention in mind? Yes, it was specifically built to be used for both hockey and basketball. The fact that the NHL hasn't awarded Houston an expansion team is honestly baffling to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Big E said: Yes, it was specifically built to be used for both hockey and basketball. The fact that the NHL hasn't awarded Houston an expansion team is honestly baffling to me. The Aeros played in the Toyota Center for almost a decade after they lost the Calder Cup to Chicago in 03 (Compaq Center). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strickn Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 On 4/5/2022 at 2:29 AM, Big E said: Yes, it was specifically built to be used for both hockey and basketball. The fact that the NHL hasn't awarded Houston an expansion team is honestly baffling to me. Well, the hockey leagues are probably about as expanded as they need to be for the fanbase that exists. If it became exciting to a whole new audience then maybe they could add more teams and games without adding empty seats. hindesky posted this recent Bisnow article from Phoenix in the Toyota Center thread but I'll just put the link here for reference: https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/construction-development/developer-could-call-off-46-acre-tempe-entertainment-district-in-exchange-for-23b-118448 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strickn Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 The summary for Houston is that we are still introduced as a potential relocation destination, at least by some pro-Coyotes-arena people, since that debate is still going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookey23 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 The Tempe vote for the Arizona Coyotes failed and the league is trying to decide the future of the team. There's speculation that the Coyotes have already played their last game in Arizona. I have to imagine Janis Burke and the Harris County Sports Authority are scrambling the jets today (since this vote failure was a slight surprise) and trying to finalize their big pitch to the league. Does anyone have concrete information on if a team not owned by Tilman can play in the Toyota Center? If that's the case, I don't think Houston will win, since we can't get them into the arena before next season. I also don't think the current owner has any interest in selling the team, so they'd have to build a new arena in Houston, if that rumor is true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 6 hours ago, bookey23 said: Does anyone have concrete information on if a team not owned by Tilman can play in the Toyota Center? Put it in the Astrodome. Think big! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstar Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 https://apnews.com/article/arizona-coyotes-salt-lake-city-relocation-f847c9206632db191463128b01347857 ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Tilman Fertitta is making half hearted attempt to bring an NHL team here but won't happen unless the NHL decides to expand. I think he wants the city of Houston to give him money or tax breaks to make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbg.50 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 35 minutes ago, hindesky said: Tilman Fertitta is making half hearted attempt to bring an NHL team here but won't happen unless the NHL decides to expand. I think he wants the city of Houston to give him money or tax breaks to make it happen. Half-hearted? Why do you allege this? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbg.50 Posted Saturday at 01:07 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:07 PM (edited) On 4/18/2024 at 8:18 PM, hbg.50 said: Half-hearted? Why do you allege this? I guess this article implies the same sentiment towards Fertitta. https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/general/article/houston-nhl-shut-out-arena-ownership-issues-19401721.php “Tilman Fertitta being interested in a hockey team, it’s almost passive aggressive, because does he really want a hockey team?” said John Shannon, a veteran Canadian analyst and sports television producer who also worked four seasons in the NHL office. “Maybe he does. He doesn’t want to pay what (commissioner Gary Bettman) wants him to pay, I’m sure, if it came to fruition. But he doesn’t want the competition for an arena, for sure. “If Ryan Smith in Salt Lake City owned the Rockets, this might be a different discussion because he’s a huge hockey fan and wants a hockey team. … I don’t think there’s a huge advocate in Houston at this point other than Fertitta, who’s trying to probably make the best business move, as opposed to being a passionate hockey fan.” Edited Saturday at 08:36 PM by editor Edited for copyright reasons. Do not copy and paste. Summarize and link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbg.50 Posted Saturday at 01:10 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:10 PM On 5/17/2023 at 6:45 PM, editor said: Put it in the Astrodome. Think big! Ooh…why not? Change the name to the AeroDome! Remove the paint from the ceiling glass. It could be a beautiful facility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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