MaxConcrete Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 http://houstonfreeways.com/modern/2008-10-..._destroyed.htmlI took these photos Sunday of FM 3005 between Surfside and San Luis Pass. I was surprised at the extent of the damage.As I mention on the web page, it will be neither easy nor cheap to replace the highway. Many miles need to be moved inland, which will probably require environmental studies. In other places new bridges or landfill will be needed.I think the best move will be to buy out the property on the route and abandon the alignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucesw Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Thanks for all the pictures. I grew up down there but spent most of my time on Bryan and Quintana beaches and am not that familiar with that highway. I've only traveled it a couple of times and I don't think I encountered any more traffic than you did.To get from Brazosport to Galveston used to involved going all the way up 35 to Alvin. Now that 2004 is available, and even the cut through Hoskins Mound, it's not such an onerous trip, but there still will need to be access to those residences. Good thing you can drive on the beaches in Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Reminds me of what happened to TX87 from High Island to Sabine Pass in the 90's. What a mess. That road was abandoned. I don't think the state has a choice but to re-build in this case unless it wants to close down the entire island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssullivan Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Reminds me of what happened to TX87 from High Island to Sabine Pass in the 90's. What a mess. That road was abandoned. I don't think the state has a choice but to re-build in this case unless it wants to close down the entire island.I'm almost positive this stretch of road isn't part of the state highway system. It's a Brazoria County road, and does not have a state highway number designation between the east end of the San Luis Pass Bridge and the connection with Texas 332 in Surfside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 (edited) I'm almost positive this stretch of road isn't part of the state highway system. It's a Brazoria County road, and does not have a state highway number designation between the east end of the San Luis Pass Bridge and the connection with Texas 332 in Surfside.I think sully is correct. Go to MSN maps and zoom in on the road. You will see it designated both Bluewater Highway and '257' inside a rectangle. If you google '257 bluewater highway', you will find numerous references to 'CR 257' (County Road 257), as well as statements that it is a Brazoria County road.Regardless who owns it, I expect it to be rebuilt. Whether it is rebuilt in its original footprint is debatable, but it is almost sure to be rebuilt.And then of course, there are the quotes of the Brazoria County officials in charge of rebuilding the road. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hurric...ke/6052397.html Edited October 24, 2008 by RedScare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Reminds me of what happened to TX87 from High Island to Sabine Pass in the 90's. What a mess. That road was abandoned. I don't think the state has a choice but to re-build in this case unless it wants to close down the entire island.The bird people (environmentalists) blocked Hwy 87 from being rebuilt. That's when McFaddin Beach went necked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxConcrete Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) I think sully is correct. Go to MSN maps and zoom in on the road. You will see it designated both Bluewater Highway and '257' inside a rectangle. If you google '257 bluewater highway', you will find numerous references to 'CR 257' (County Road 257), as well as statements that it is a Brazoria County road.You are correct, that section of highway is County Road 257, not FM 3005. I will need to correct the web page.I'm not surprised the preliminary estimate of reconstruction is $100 million. FEMA likes to blow money, so it will probably be funded. Edited October 25, 2008 by MaxConcrete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheLoop Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Thanks, Max.Those are excellent, well-documented photos that tell the story.I'm going down to look.Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmsry Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) Great photos. My family has been going to Surfside every year since 1960 (when we moved back from Argentina), and I just hate to see this happen. We also spent time in Gilchrist. It broke our hearts in the late '80s, when we could no longer run up the coast from Rollover to Sabine Pass for barbecue crabs at Sartains.But erosion happens and there is little to guard against it. But, people who live on barrier islands need to understand that eventually it will be gone. So, if you can't afford the insurance or can't self-insure, don't build on the island and expect the government to bail you out. Always evacuate.And yes, I have a fish camp on Padre Island which will eventually be gone. Edited October 30, 2008 by missmsry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 The bird people (environmentalists) blocked Hwy 87 from being rebuilt. That's when McFaddin Beach went necked.Ugly necked people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 That's unbelievable. How did the San Luis Pass Bridge fair? And the pier next to it? I used to fish off that pier many years ago. Thanks for sharing the photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxConcrete Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 That's unbelievable. How did the San Luis Pass Bridge fair? The San Luis Pass bridge appears to have survived with no visible damage. The bridge was open, but tolls were not being collected. The sand dunes on the west end of Galveston Island were a victim, however. There was a wide strip of dunes which were crossed by numerous boardwalks. Now, there is just about nothing left of the dunes - only a flat, sandy area remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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