pm91 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 if hispanics are the majority now in harris county, then shouldn't caucasians qualify for the minority scholarship now? it makes sense, if they aren't the minority anymore, then why should they still get the minority scholarship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danax Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 if hispanics are the majority now in harris county, then shouldn't caucasians qualify for the minority scholarship now? it makes sense, if they aren't the minority anymore, then why should they still get the minority scholarship?Minority in an ethnic-racial context is an outdated term and whose original users probably never anticipated an eventual majority minority, and it is probably defined in most cases as non-white anyway.I wouldn't get your hopes up for a European-American scholarship. Even if one were privately funded the group would get attacked from multiple fronts and would be branded as racist, which makes that highly unlikely.We're simply in a period of time where the backlash from the formerly racist policies of the ruling whites is flooding over true fairness and equal opportunity. I'm sure that in time a more balanced society will evolve. I read an interesting item awhile back about a guy who tried to get trademark protection for, "white pride, nationwide". He said his applying was an act of anti politically correctness, not racism.Here's the patent office's reply."Section 2(a) Refusal"Registration is refused because the proposed mark consists of or comprises immoral or scandalous matter. Trademark Act Section 2(a) U.S.C. 1052(a); TMEP 1203.01. According to the attached evidence from a Lexis/Nexis database and a search of the Internet using the search engine www.google.com, the "WHITE PRIDE" element of the proposed mark is considered offensive and therefore scandalous."/s/ by Barbara Rutland, USPTO Examining AttorneyAnd here are the trademarks that have been approved by the same office so far;"African Pride," "African Man Pride," "Asian Pride," "Bahama Pride," "Black Panther Party", "Burn, Baby Burn" (Black Panther slogan) "Black Power""Black Pride," "Black Supremacy", "Brazilian Pride," "China-Pride," "Chippewa Pride," "Choctaw Pride," "Colombian Pride," "Cuban Pride," "Dakota Pride," "Dominican Pride," "El Salvador Pride," "Ecuador Pride," "Gay Pride Apparel," "Guyanese Pride," "Havana Pride," "Honduran Pride," "Indian Pride," "Jamaica's Pride," "Jewish Pride," "Kwanzaa Pride," La Raza" (the race) "Long Beach Lesbian and Gay Pride," "Mayan Pride," "Mexican Pride," "Native Pride!," "Nicaraguan Pride," "Orgullo Hispano" (Hispanic Pride), "Orgoglio" (Hispanic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) You might be surprised to find out just how many newcomers to the US are recieving scholarships Edited October 17, 2007 by Vertigo58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexAmerican_Moose Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 i guess because the majority of college students in Houston are still Caucasian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwilson Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Basing ANYTHING upon ethnicity, sex or religion is divisive and is the antithesis of fairness. Fairness does not mean everyone is entitled to the same things. It means everyone should get what they earn regardless of ethnicity, sex or religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I read an interesting item awhile back about a guy who tried to get trademark protection for, "white pride, nationwide". He said his applying was an act of anti politically correctness, not racism.Here's the patent office's reply."Section 2(a) Refusal"Registration is refused because the proposed mark consists of or comprises immoral or scandalous matter. Trademark Act Section 2(a) U.S.C. 1052(a); TMEP 1203.01. According to the attached evidence from a Lexis/Nexis database and a search of the Internet using the search engine www.google.com, the "WHITE PRIDE" element of the proposed mark is considered offensive and therefore scandalous."/s/ by Barbara Rutland, USPTO Examining AttorneyI think that's hilarious. I ought to try and patent "Honky Pride" and sell t-shirts and bumper stickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmancuso Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 white pride is uncouth and nonsensical becuase unlike black or hispanic, it's not an ethnic group. irish, polish, italian pride is another thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 white pride is uncouth and nonsensical becuase unlike black or hispanic, it's not an ethnic group. irish, polish, italian pride is another thing...How about Jamaicans and all the other carribean ethnicities? There are plenty of subcultures among peoples of African descent.And Hispanics...wow. Don't ever call a Salvadorian a Mexican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmancuso Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 How about Jamaicans and all the other carribean ethnicities? There are plenty of subcultures among peoples of African descent.And Hispanics...wow. Don't ever call a Salvadorian a Mexican.how many jamaicans refer to themselves as african american? as for hispanic, aren't they lumped together as an ethnic bloc? i think october is hispanic heritage month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millennica Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 how many jamaicans refer to themselves as african american?Whether or not Jamaicans and other groups from the Caribbean refer to themselves as African Americans is often related to how long or how many generations they have lived in the US and whom they might have married and a number of circumstances that are much too complex to go into here. My spouse's parents immigrated to the US from Jamaica. Sociologists refer to their children--my spouse and sibling--both born in the US as second generation. Because spouse and sibling were raised in Brooklyn, New York in an African American community, they identified with came to see themselves as African Americans and both married African Americans even though their parents might have wanted them to maintain their Jamaican identity. Some second and third generation immigrants from the Caribbean do maintain their original identities, but others come to see themselves as African American. One sociologist who has written about this process is Mary C. Waters in the book Black Identities West Indian Immigrant Dreams and American Realities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 how many jamaicans refer to themselves as african american? as for hispanic, aren't they lumped together as an ethnic bloc? i think october is hispanic heritage month.I've always had problems understanding the justifications for 'ethnicity' on account of that there are so many groups and subgroups, all intermingling, all ultimately comprising the largest group, that of the human species. It just doesn't make sense (to me) to bother with the divisions. Too much generalization. Too many exceptions. So if nothing else, it just makes good fodder for jokes, like "Honky Pride".Nevertheless, I'd suggest that you not mistake a Salvadorian for a Mexican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 white pride is uncouth and nonsensical becuase unlike black or hispanic, it's not an ethnic group. irish, polish, italian pride is another thing...Black is an ethnic group?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinoda28107 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Black is an ethnic group??Of course not, but since most African Americans or black people do not know exactly where their ancestors come from, they just say "Black Pride", rather than "Nigerian Pride", or "Ghana Pride". Hispanics and whites are more likely to know where their families are from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Of course not, but since most African Americans or black people do not know exactly where their ancestors come from, they just say "Black Pride", rather than "Nigerian Pride", or "Ghana Pride". Hispanics and whites are more likely to know where their families are from I knew it wasn't... I wasn't literally asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmancuso Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 do african-americans not see themselves as a common ethnic group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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