tcole

I'm not sure I get it red, but it is funny.

My words: Pass the crack-pipe dude, you've killed the last cell. Now your response: This is not a matter of "interpretation." It is a matter of READING COMPREHENSION. For your enlightenment, "pass the crack-pipe"; a term used to indicate that you should either share it with others or cease your indulgence in such. Modified by, "you've killed the last cell", which indicates that the suggestion to pass the "pipe" is related to the second option above due to the fact that because the partaking of drugs kills brain cells, you should stop due to the impression that I got that you have none or very few remaining as evidenced by your ludicrous reasoning and assumptions regarding Dallas' ability to annex its surroiunding communities. Now if you want to consider sarcasm as rude, that is your perogative. But it appears that what you found rude was really the result of your failure in comprehension.

Are you kidding me? Maybe YOU could not tell, which in effect creates irony, in a manner of speaking. Let's see if you can figure that out. Seriously, re-read the post. Slowly. And do not forget to read your quotes in relation to what i posted.

I suppose a vain attempt at comedic satire. It was obviously wasted on you. You continue to confirm my suggestion that you alter your moniker...

Did you read my post? Perhaps you should re-read it. The suggestion was that you should stop smoking crack - a satirical reference to the issue that I found some of your assumptions and sugestions ludicrous; of the kind that would be put forward by someone under the influence and not thinking clearly. And I questioned your wisdom, and knowledge of Texas history and the characters who contributed to it when highlighting that Davy Crockett was indeed a Tennessean, and a drunkard. A simple application of reading comprehension would indicate that I did not level the "insult" that you were a Tennessean. It seems to me that you might want to consider changing your forum moniker...

Absolutely. You do not see the Park Cities scrambling to join the city of Dallas for the same reason - and that is where a good chunk of Dallas' movers and shakers reside. For that matter, a good number have moved to Richardson and Plano as well.

And Red, it is probably not likely as long as the citizens of Dallas continue to re-elect Laura Miller.

Pass the crack-pipe dude, you've killed the last cell. Brilliant. Texas to name its "megalopolis" after a drunkard Tennessean...?

Well I missed that. Still, it is a small sum and should it expand beyond a certain amount, the council is going to need to get referendum approval. The citizens killed the hotel deal four years ago, and I am quite certain that they would mitigate too great an expenditure on something like this. You need to re-examine the data. NCTCOG's projections are being surpassed anually by FW's growth whereas Dallas' have been lowered in each of the past five years.

I do not think that that statement is acurate.

Jamail's

The article is a little campy, but From the FW Star Telegram, March 5, 2006 On Jan. 22, 1990, in an auditorium at Rockefeller Center in New York, Kimbell Art Museum director Ted Pillsbury unveiled his ambitious blueprint for museum expansion to a decidedly skeptical audience. The widow of legendary architect Louis Kahn was there that day, as were many of Kahn

It is...to all natives. You won't find one.

I know. Jamail would have made considerably more had the original judgement held up.

It was in the late 80's when Jamail represented Pennzoil in a victorious lawsuit over Texaco in which Pennzoil was ultimately awarded $3bil, of which Jamail was paid 1/3 of said award. I think you mean Dallas.

Don't jive me boy. I AM FROM FORT WORTH, and can assure you that I talk to a good bit more people in town and about town and no-one, as stated before, would refer to Alliance as a port except as tongue in cheek. Hell, even Mike Berry jokes about the operations out there being "port-like", but you do not see him actually naming the thing something so silly as "The Port of Fort Worth." "Inland port", whether oxymoronic or anymoronic for that matter is just a way to concisely explain what facilities and operations are present at Alliance.

From the official Alliance website - as prepared by Hilwood Development, A Perot Co. - based where? The designation as an "inland port" comes from a firm in Dallas. I stand by my original post, no one in Fort Worth would refer to Alliance as a port (as the term is gernerally understood) except tongue in cheek.

Oh, the pride. Maybe the city name should be changed to PORT WORTH.

Absolutely. In fact, the infrastructure is already there and exists in form that is only proposed for S. Dallas. So you could say that "The Port of Cowtown" already exists. In fact, some of the land around Alliance is designated as "freeport." Designating Alliance as a "port" is probably incorrect in that the commonly held connotation of the term necesitates sea vessel access. Alliance, and what is proposed in Dallas would better be described as intermodal transport hubs - which I guess a sea port is as well. In the end, I do not think that you would find anyone in Fort Worth claiming Alliance as a port in any manner other than tongue in cheek. It is being discussed seriously (and has been for over 10 years). The question is whether or not the talk leads to action.

Pretty much. AFW has plenty of room for this and better access to rail.

FedEx DID consider DFW for a hub ops base. Ross Jr. offered a better deal. And cargo routed through AFW DOES NOT terminate in the DFW area (all FedEx cargo terminating in the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex is off-loaded at DFW).

You are to some extent confirming his disdain. Your monicker is Jason DFW but you cannot even spell TARRANT correctly. Nice.

I'll have to quibble with that last bit tamtagon - the bit about Houston not drawing trade from an equivalent dollar segment as Dallas. I agree that D draws from Waco to OKC, and West Texas to N. Louisiana, but Houston holds the trump card on Dallas - it draws from Monterrey, La Ciudad, Guadalajara, Merida, Saltillo, Torreon, etc. (as well as SAT, Austin and all of South Texas and Southern Louisiana) Get the picture? From a dollar standpoint, that market (the one south of the border) is actually much larger. As to the Ritz; Marriott considered taking over (actually co-developing) what is now Hotel Icon as a Ritz Carlton property. In fact, they have been eager to get back into the Houston market since they voided their management contract with a particular Saudi property owner due to tax and management fee delinquency in 97. RC actually "lost" a number of what it considered its premier locations with that "deal" including Houston, Aspen, and The Kohala Coast and just recently got back into Aspen with its Bachelor's Gulch property at Highlands. Willy, you are correct in your assertion that most of the drive behind RC's and W's move is perception of Dallas (although not in spite of Houston) - whereas I would assume that they are having to stretch their pro-formas for those two projects given Dallas' 60% hotel occupancy rates. As to actual wealth, I would say that from an income perspective, Houston is going to be higher although probably closer to even on a per capita basis (excluding Tarrant Co.) due to Houston's larger "blue collar" populace. From a net worth perspective, Houston is without a doubt wealthier than Dallas (again without factoring Tarrant County) although individual accounts will be higher in Dallas - think Perot, Cuban, et.al. Lastly, Alice doesn't live here anymore - in Fort Worth, and her income may not be that "great" given her net worth as a good chunk of that is locked into WMT stock and not subject to income reporting thus explaining the seemingly "low" total income tax figure you cited for Texas.

2112: Just bypass D and "rush" on over to Cowtown. The Kimball has a good show on now Featuring a British artist named Stubbs and his study of horses. The Modern is not to be missed (although in my opinion the building outshines the art inside). Stay at a little boutique hotel named "The Ashton" (managed by the same people who manage The Lancaster in Houston) and savor some of the local cuisine. In a month some early spring blooming will be in effect so if the weather is nice, try a stroll through the Japanese Gardens (in the Botanic Gardens) - nicer and better laid out than SFO's in my opinion.

DFW is a homogenous metro zone (as evidenced by the sat photos posted above). On the ground, it feels different, just as Sugarland feels different from Kingwood and Uptown feels different from The Strand. I think that the true problem arises (in particular in FW) when the name "Dallas area" or other similar apelations are applied to DFW as a whole. Dallasites will maintain that that is just how the "world" views the region and it is not their (Dallas') responsibility to correct for such. FW's view is pretty much that we are not responsible for the rest of the world's ignorance and do pretty much what we can to highlight our strengths and remind those in error of their mistakes. I personally have advised flight attendants on flights into DFW to not refer to the flight as "heading to Dallas." I think in the end, I think of myself as a Texan first and the city where I live second.