Sooner&RiceGrad

The Katy Freeway was way too small. The traffic was horrendous. It must be a nightmare for most folks.

However, adding 20 lanes of concrete is just a quick fix. Does anyone really think that in 2 years, there wont be traffic on this monster? Developers are already licking their collective chops as they head West towards Sealy!

Additionally, the flooding problems the greater Houston area has witnessed over the last decade will just worsen as we pave over the Katy Prairie with freeways, grand parkways, cinco ranches, and pod site restaurants (not to mention the raping of the piney woods in the Northern reaches and stilting of the coastal prairies). A retention pond next to a Waffle House just wont help much...

I guess my main issue is, in five years, when 20 lanes are chocked with traffic instead of 10, what do we do then?

We all get in our spacecars and rename Houston Jetsons City is what we do!

It'll probably smell like Waffles before too long.

Agreed.

But notice how they did not bother to show the rendering during any real scenario. Lunch through the evening. Funny, it must be one of those Aurora Borealis type things. That rendering is clearly at Midnight.

Forget Dallas, we will be going to San Antonio!

Hell yeah now I can't wait to move back in time for the next hurricane.

Actually the funny thing about that freeway is that I knew a guy who's kids were going to an exclusive private school that was going to be mowed over by that new freeway expansion. I do wonder where the old Rainard School moved to...

Texas just aint Texas anymore.

From the developers of the Galleria? Hot dang.

I never said the Main/Fannin line which I've ridden was a bad idea. If it came sooner we may have gotten the Olympics...

If it were up to me there would be commuter rail down Westheimer to Westchase or at least the the beltway but Kirby has a turn lane and even a median in sections that could be whittled down to make room for a light rail that would get loads of ridership once it's completed in say 5-10 years as this part of town is getting denser and denser.

Man, that's just creepy.

I second that. Has the whole world caught the damn yellow fever all of a sudden? That's just cheesey. It is a neat project and all, cheese aside.

I'm guessing that these projects only get built in places with super expensive real estate. That land over in Rice Military was probably relatively cheap compared to Upper Kirby.

Is cheap land here why we don't see many of these cool projects that we envy in other cities? If so, that means that all we have to do is wait and they will spring up in bunches once land goes above a certain price.

Any commercial developers out there that want to expand on that?

Another new mall is what you think you're getting excited about?

I only count 6 floors but I saw 7 somewhere. Curious, do I have to right project? I'm sure I do...

Good news for Westheimer. Howabout the city run one of its light rail lines up and down Westheimer and Kirby in the near future, instead of down Fannin or Main. I think this area is going to be dense as hell in 10 years.

That thing is hideous. Makes me fear that the Islamic extremists are nearing the dawn of their world-wide empire in the space age and what not that's scary. That thing does not look real. Is this thread another one of Dominax's jokes?

And look at that cheap-looking construction scene.

http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2006/05...006-05-13-4.jpg

Nice.

New 10-story condo tower going up off of Utica in Midtown Tulsa. It's not much, especially for Midtown Tulsa. There have been smaller condo projects (like 5 or 6 stories) some groups of new townhomes and other new office buildings in Midtown, but it's the best thing going on right now. Not to mention numerous conversions of historical downtown high rises. This development will feature a 10-story tower, some rowhouses and some flats. This is going up right off of Utica Avenue and East 22nd Place, right next to Cascia Hall (in case if anyone on this board went there).

You can see some mansions there in the back, and working on something else in the background.

Construction cam is Here.

Website is Here.

Site plan is Here.

The tower is the thing in the top right corner.

I don't consider anything less than 750,000 or Tier 2 at least to be a major city. No Biloxi or Quad Cities, sorry.

Let's get it started then:

Here's the obvious ones:

Houston

OKC

Tulsa

Some more:

New York City

Philadelphia

Boston

Washington/Baltimore

Cincinnati

Atlanta

Charlotte

Raleigh

Tampa

Birmingham

Nashville

Memphis (big slum)

New Orleans

San Antonio

Dallas/Fort Worth

Austin

Albuquerque

San Diego

Portland

Seattle

Minneapolis

Omaha

Kansas City

Saint Louis

Chicago

And so many countless smaller towns with less than 750,000 people. Just about anywhere between any of the above-mentioned cities that can be accessed via the Great American Adventure, A.K.A. the US Interstate System.

And the World, arranged in order of favorites:

Copenhagen

London

Barcelona

Rome

Acapulco

Paris

Cape Town

Warsaw

Edinburgh

Toronto

Madrid

Edmonton

Calgary

Lyon

Manchester

Johannesburg

Mexico City

Cairo

Mexico City was nice and all, and there's some great colonial architecture and it's really not as bad as they say it is. Just don't drink the water. Cairo was a slum but the pyramids were amazing. Johannesburg was boring. We took a diversion to see Africa's greatest business center one year we were vacationing in Cape Town. The skyscrapers there are neat but I didn't enjoy the feeling that crime was all around in a few parts of town, but it's definately not what people think of when they think of Africa. Madrid, Edmonton, and Calgary were just some boring places I was in on business... I was in Warsaw for bidness too but fell in love with the city, oddly enough. Copenhagen and Barcelona really are undiscovered gems.

They must have been Oral Roberts' hands.

The address that site showed for this house would be somewhere right around the Mosteller and May Avenue intersection in OKC, and I've never, ever seen this house anywhere around there. Must be one of those really well-hidden mansions in the Nichols Hills area.

Oh and I don't know where someone gets off comparing Tulsa (woodlands and hills) to Midland (a flat, dry prairie) but to each their own I guess.

This cam someone posted a link to, I think, would be somewhere around Yale and 71st. Ahh 71st and Hell, I love it. That cam should pointed at the roads and then it would really be useful for something. But avoiding that part of town is pretty much a given anyway...

Damage control...

First of all, it is "litted". And Chris, that cam, of every single cam on every single local affiliate's webpage, is the cruddiest I've ever seen. Channel 2's offices are in Brookside, and would be much better used by panning down lovely Peoria Avenue.

And, Miami has the most art deco of any city in the world. Tulsa is in 2nd. Bartlesville, OK, a small metro 50 miles north of Tulsa, is home to Frank Lloyd Wright's only skyscraper. I did not know Houston was renowned for art deco, as an ex-Houstonian.

And for those curious who owns the Bank of Texas, it's none other than BOk Financial.

OKC was, in the 70s, deathly afraid of being blocked out, being completely surrounded by Moore, Yukon, Edmond, Midwest City, etc, etc. So they went nuts and turned the tables. They shouldn't have. A lot of the city limits are country, and the sprawl is inefficient for budgetary purposes.

The nice suburbs of OKC are:

Norman (really more like Fort Worth is to Dallas than a suburb to OKC), Newcastle, Moore (though the west side is a slum), Mustang, Yukon, El Reno, Piedmont, EDMOND, Guthrie, Midwest City, and Shawnee (an exurb, granted), and the enclaves. All of the small enclaves on the NW side of town are either extremely nice, or reasonably nice. Nichols Hills is the River Oaks of OKC.

The others are Shiite little towns with acres of hillbillies and farms, much like land surrounding Houston.

Del City is the slum.

That map is also old. Since that map, the city has completed a loop around the north and west sides of town, which is currently being extended south and then back east to connect with Norman (Go Sooners!!) and Newscastle.

I personally think the land should be given back, or done like The Woodlands or Kingwood, developed into a prestigious municipality--only without the intent of returning to OKC.

Perhaps you should look into joining one of many excellant Oklahoma forums?

Kingwood has The Woodlands beat in one respect.

A Houston address.

Not for long.

Ummn... would you please tell me why in the hell you thought that belonged here? Is there some sort of rivalry between The Woodlands and Kingswood?

OK, Mr. Woodlands, yes, your town is very nice.

Great development. But does Pasadena still have the KKK bookstore?

Woah, hot dogs.

Skylake Resort will have 200 guest rooms and suites, a spa and fitness facility, tropical pool, an extensive conference center, and ballroom.

Skylake Village will be one of the largest suburban town centers in the Houston region at nearly two million square feet.

Three and four-story urban-scale buildings with retail and restaurants on the ground floor and condominiums and offices above

I didn't know that Kingswood had 65,000 people...?!!

Skylake Island, in the midst of over 40 acres (17 hectares) of lakes, will be the center of commercial life, with sidewalk caf

The terror

The horror

But I think we know which one I am sorry for, for the most part. I just didn't want people thinking that people up in Oklahoma really are that dumb. But I'm like you all (a Houston Okie), and I'm not alone. Not that we don't have our share of nuts like rosemary and dominax and the other guy...

C'ya round the forums.

There have been a lot of stupid Oklahoma threads on this forum. But just know, that most of us up north are not that stupid, or that immature (or immature enough to talk to ourselves using two accounts-kind-of-stupid), so just know that what we've seen on here is a rare example.

And I am sorry that you had to see how ugly stupidity is. :closedeyes:

Ah ha!! Yes, great pictures, although I've already seen these. Glad you shared these with people from Texas though.

Yeah that's the damn truth. Then some moron comes along like that dude in the B'ville Vs. Ponca thread... but really he made my day. Who would have ever thought anyone would be such a loser?

But uhh yeah. You know really, not enough people care about Tulsa or OKC on this forum. Heck, Houstonians just know that most of their companies are actually relocated from Tulsa (maybe an overstatement).

This thread has already been long gone, despite being a couple pages long on almost every Oklahoma forum I've ever been to. Mine, OKC Talk, Tulsa Now, OKGOP, all of them.

And actually they are the worst flame-wars you'll ever see.

You would think you all would be aware of boring cookie cutter/design build processes. Especially since most of you are from Houston!

Yeah there is but apparently it requires intelligence.

Why is it that there are all these crack-pot Oklahoma city v. Oklahoma town threads all of a sudden?