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The invitation I got mentioned that it will be on the 4th floor of the library. ArCH is at 315 Capitol.

Amy - I promise there are a lot more Houstonians than just those who have posted here who have found the Bailey photos online and very much enjoyed them. In my opiniong, one of the best things that can be done to help preserve public access to historic photos is to get them into the hands of an institution like U.T. I'm betting that most of those who posted above, like me, do very much appreciate the photos being available and indexed online; are grateful that they were purchased by a Texas university (that the photos were not purchased by a Houston institution is more of a criticism of local institutions than U.T., to the extent it's a criticism at all, and not just a regret); and understand that purchasing the photos and making them available for viewing online cost the university money. Had they been writing to the university rather than on this message board, most likely would have mentioned some or all of that - and I hope that you and any others who were/are involved in the digitization project who may be reading didn't take the above comments as ingratitude. The group of people who post on the Historic Houston section of this board are, I'm sure, among those most grateful for having some degree of online access to the photographs. And thanks for the contact information for labeling comments - I also have seen a number of what I believe to be errors in labeling, and wish now I'd kept track of them. I may go back and try to find some of them. ---------- Others - At least these photos are available in some form online - unlike the Chron and Post historic archives. And the vast majority of other historic photos of Houston. Still, I think there are some fair questions to be asked about why the original-size Bailey images aren't available online, and I don't think Houstonians should not ask them just out of politeness - U.T. is a public institution, as someone else pointed out. Seeing the Life Magazine archive of historic Houston photos that Google recently made available made me that much more curious about U.T.'s decision. U.T. is not Google, obviously - but the Bailey photos aren't the Life Magazine archives, either. Plus, some of the differences between U.T. and Google would seem to make it more likely that U.T. would make original-size photos available online. I know the copyright issues can be complicated, but I'm more curious about the apparent decision to maintain any copyright protection, and whether it's permanent or just until certain costs are recouped. I don't want to divert attention in this thread from the Bailey photographs by getting too deep into more esoteric topics, but I believe that, just as Houstonians have an interest in historic Houston structures that should not necessarily be trumped by the rights of the current owners of those structures, we have an interest in historic news coverage and photographs concerning our town that should not necessarily be trumped by current ownership interests. As much as many Texans hate hearing any suggestion that property rights should be anything other than absolute, it's a view that many cities and states (in the case of historic structures) and many newspapers and libraries (in the case of historic news and photographs and similar information) support to some extent - the hard part is striking the right balance among the interests, and I get that. But it would be nice if we got to at least hear some kind of explanation from the Chronicles and U.T.'s of the world - even if it just comes down to money. In fact, I bet there are those who would donate money to U.T. to help increase online access to historical materials - heck, I'd donate to the Chronicle if I could earmark the money for helping make their historic archives available/searchable online.

That smell when you walk into Penzey's is great. I'm hoping to try the Lone Star Culinary Spice Market near the Airline Farmer's Market soon. I've heard it's pretty good. I think it used to be Yerberia something - but maybe I have it confused with another spice place in the area.

I know the sign said "get fresh... go local" or something similar - but I honestly never picked up on the local foods emphasis. Could have just been me being oblivious, but I don't remember signs around the store touting the local source of various foods or anything like that. I think I might have made a special trip more frequently, if I'd realized.

Oh, that's a shame... But I'm not that surprised, either - it didn't seem to be getting a lot of business. There were a number of things I liked about the place - and everyone I dealt with connected with the store was always very friendly and seemed eager to please. But it was difficult to do shopping for an entire meal there, and I didn't notice anything worth a special trip. I heard they made good sandwiches, and had a good meat and fish selection - but never remembered to check for myself.

Yeah, I've seen a few of the replatting signs around. They usually catch my attention - seems like a decent way of letting a neighborhood know that an application of some sort is pending that would affect an historic property. Whether anyone cares is another thing, though, I guess.

CH - I haven't had a chance yet to look at the redline (document showing actual language of proposed changes to the ordinance) accessible from the page linked above, but this was my quick take on which are pro-builder, pro-preservation, and neutral: Pro-Preservation: Posted notice (front yard

Thought others might be interested in this summary list of proposed changes to the Historic Preservation Ordinance, which will be considered at a meeting on January 15 (this Thursday) at 3:00pm: [*]Increase the number of HAHC members from 11 to 13 [*]Makes the director a non-voting member for quorum purposes [*]One member of the HAHC will be a registered remodeler or builder [*]Two members of the HAHC will be historic district homestead residents [*]HAHC will establish a schedule of submittal deadlines and meeting dates [*]Applications for a certificate of appropriateness must be complete and meet submittal deadline to be on the next HAHC agenda [*]Posted notice (front yard

I noticed "John Klotz" mentioned on a couple of recent records for the property - on one together with Jack Gregory, who I think is (was?) the owner of Daily Grind. Don't know if that has any significance unless it's the John Klotz who started the Local Charm location on lower Washington with Rory Miggins, and stayed on as co-owner of the Rhythm Room when Miggins left. I don't see a current liquor permit for 4115 Washington, though. There is one for the property next door - 4105, where Reign Lounge is supposed to be opening. HCAD lists the owner of 4115 Washington as Robert Mize, who owns several properties in the lower Washington/6th Ward area, including the Catalina Coffee building.

Interesting... I'd never heard of this place before. Saw a few people had posted on various sites some video of Elvis playing there, August 7, 1955. In the old newspapers: In the 1890's and decade following, there seemed to be a lot of Magnolia Gardens lots changing hands. In 1929, rescue workers searched for a mother and son feared drowned in the SJ river "below Magnolia Gardens just above the Crosby road bridge." In 1932, a 20-year-old woman celebrating her birthday at Magnolia Gardens intentionally drowned herself "after quarreling with a young man at the party. In 1935, a 40-year-old man drowned in the SJ river "near Magnolia Gardens, about 18 miles from Houston." In 1957, a tornado hit "the Magnolia Gardens Clubhouse near Lake Houston." In 1964, a 22-year-old woman drowned in the river "at Magnolia Gardens." So - not much, and somewhat depressing. On the map, it looks like Magnolia Gardens is an entire area on the San Jacinto River north of Hwy 90 and south of Lake Houston. The newspaper articles seemed to be more about the area than the dancehall, unfortunately, except for this sort of random mention in a San Antonio newspaper article: "Celebrated Houston Attorney Percy Foreman in town last week, and recalling the day back around 1952 when an unknown youngster singing at Magnolia Gardens in the Bayou City ambled into Foreman's office seeking a loan of $750 to make it to Hollywood and a crack at the big time...."

The postcard was just in error - Lone Star Market was at 1907 Washington Avenue, which is near Washington and Silver (i.e., between Sawyer and Houston), relatively close in to downtown. Corkscrew is at 1919 Washington, if that helps place it. I can only place Lone Star Market at 1907 as of October 1913, when there was an attempted burglary - notable because the would-be burglar was 7 years old (and "small for his age"). But Christian Otto Godfred Vogt lived at 1907 Washington as of October 1907, when he applied for U.S. citizenship. Vogt was born in Nuksker, Denmark, on May 13, 1860. He arrived in the U.S. on February 19, 1894. He married Auguste Hersch in 1901. He had jury duty in October 1903. In February 1904, he purchased lots 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 of block 117 in the Brunner addition from John Lenz. He served as a pallbearer in December 1904 for a resident of 1819 Washington who was buried in the German Cemetery (now called the Washington Cemetery, on Washington Ave.). He was a member of the Woodmen of the World, Red Oak Camp No. 95, as of that time (December 1904). As mentioned before, applied for citizenship in October 1907. Had jury duty again in March 1911. In August 1911, Vogt visited Galveston's Cotton Carnival, and told a Galveston reporter: "I never fail to have a good time when I come to Galveston. I am very much interested in the cotton carnival exhibits." Jury duty again in 1912. The burglary mentioned above occurred in 1913. In 1877, the "Lone Star Nursery" had a float in Houston's Volksfest parade. In 1878, the "Lone Star Nursery and Market Garden" had a float in Houston's Volksfest parade. This was of course before Vogt even arrived in Houston, but it's possible that the Lone Star Market Garden was an existing business rather than one Vogt started, so thought I'd mention it. A "Lone Star Market" in Richmond (Tex.) was flooded in July 1899. From what I can tell, "Lone Star" was a very popular business name in Texas in the time period. More information than you requested, but I was hoping it might convince you to buy the postcard and post a photo. Or let us know where it can be purchased. I don't think I've ever seen a copy before - has anyone else? - and it sounds very interesting. [EDIT: Oh, and welcome to the forum!]

Yeah, me too. I just heard from someone here what they heard about it, inc. the guy's alleged company and position. It would be irresponsible to repeat in detail in these circumstances but, based on what I heard, it was not on the Smith side of the garage, it was in the afternoon, and was not someone who worked for a company in 1100 Louisiana. How sad.

I was parking at the 1100 garage around 10:30 a.m. yesterday, and saw a number of emergency vehicles (inc. an ambulance) with sirens lit stopped in front of 1100 Louisiana (on the Smith side - and right across Smith from the BBQ place, not down toward the Starbuck's entrance). I thought it might have something to do with the fire drill that 1100 Louisiana had at 11:00 a.m., but it could have been related to what the original poster mentioned if the timing is the same.

I ended up making it to Kaboom a couple of times while it was still at Studewood and 9th, and have since been to the new Studewood location a couple of times. Haven't made it to the Houston Avenue location yet, though. I like their book selection. And I really like having a bookstore in the neighborhood. Plus, on all visits, I've enjoyed speaking with either John or Dee. I got an email saying they now carry the Sunday New York Times, though I don't know if it's at both stores or just one. It would be cool if the Studewood store had the Times - a Sunday morning stop for the NYT at Kaboom and artisinal pastries next door at Antidote sounds pretty good to me.

Wow! I would really hate to see them go. I'm sure the Dom Polanski building could be used for other purposes, but I think it's especially great as a club. The Polish Lodges used the second floor as the dance hall because in the pre-air-conditioning days (it was built in 1918) because it had so many windows. It's cool to me that people are still hanging out there enjoying music 90 years later.

Thanks for the update, Heights CPA! I've had a hard time finding information. I checked the permits, but only see dumpster permits for 2802 White Oak. For those who haven't read the entire thread, we have talked about two different properties: (1) The Vaughan property, which is shown in red below - it is west of and adjacent to Onion Creek. The "Now Leasing" high-rise sign that started this thread is located on and concerns the Vaughan property. I haven't heard any recent news about it. (2) The Burroughts property, which is shown in purple below - it is east of Onion Creek, and includes lots on both the north and south sides of White Oak. It does not include Charles Liquor, but does include the convenience store to the east, that entire little shopping center where White Oak Bakery is located, the old Camphouse building, the building to the east of that (2802), and a lot across from 2802 (next to Jimmie's). Someone posting above said that they had word that high-rise mixed-use was proposed for the north side of White Oak, and a parking garage proposed for the south side of White Oak.

There was also an article on Galveston's recovery in the Houston Press this week.

Thanks! I must just be driving by at weird times of day. As many times as I've passed it, I've never eaten there. What got me started thinking about it was that I noticed it was one of the few food/drink places (there are some others on White Oak and 19th) that will be very close to the new bike trail. Wonder if they'll put out bike racks.

Others will join me in testifying that dbigtex56 has a talent for bringing out the best in a jukebox!

Lola's had a pretty good jukebox - or at least a surprisingly good jukebox. Wonder if it was considered. All the others are good choices, too, though. I tried to sign up to comment on the Houstonist post, but the confirmation link didn't work either time I tried. Hope someone else will note that La Carafe - as great a place as it is - is not the oldest bar in town, and has never claimed to be. It's a very good bar in the oldest commercial building in town. Old, too, but not the oldest. (As some of y'all know, this was a minor obsession of mine for a while. And that I ultimately said my vote goes to Leon's, but with the caveats noted.) [EDIT: Never mind, I finally got the sign-up confirmation to work and commented.]

Chilosos - good reviews earlier in the thread.

Thx. Yeah, B4-u-eat are generally pretty quick - recently updated their listing for Cafe Montrose, for example, I noticed. Maybe Java Java is in limbo like Cafe Montrose was for a while. Or I could be just driving by at the wrong time of day. Figured someone on here might live close or drive by more often than I do. If I find out, I'll post something. On the breakfast spots topic generally, Avenue Grill is the place I want to try next... not too far from the Heights - but I never think of it.

Here's a page of Heights breakfast spots, most of which have been mentioned above. I'm still curious about Java Java, though, if anyone knows if it's closed. From what I can tell from internet searches, it was open as recently as a month or so ago - but, as I said above, I haven't seen it open in a while.

Figured I didn't need a whole new post for this, and so looked for the most recent mention of Java Java... Has it closed? It's looked awfully dead there the last few times I took any notice.

I don't really know anything more than what I saw in that brochure, which may be new. Maybe the apartments were supposed to be part of it and the developer never got them?