westguy76

Wow, I never would have imagined and escalating scale based on county appraised values for association fees? Is this rare? I've never heard of it. I pay $800 out in Cinco Ranch and so do several people I know who live here. And we have comparible ammenities, no?

The TV show was just released on DVD a couple of weeks ago.

haha nice one

2,800!!!! A YEAR IN THE WOODLANDS?

How many homes are currently in Cinco Ranch? How many do they expect to have at Buildout?

I can't remeber where i read it but recently i read that there were eight thousand something homes built. Population was 11,196 at the 2000 census. And I think the mater plan was something like 7,400 acres.

West side only if you live in Memorial (77024, 77079). The rest is pretty lame and barren once you get past Hwy 6.

Unlike cities like Dallas or Austin whose nicer developments tend to favor one side of town (north in the case of Dallas, west in the case of Austin) Houston has a ring of nice suburbs in virtually every direction outside the Beltway. All of the major suburbs are pretty good. It depends on what you prefer. If you like the open prairies, go Katy and Sugar Land. If you like trees, go Cypress, Klein, Champions, The Woodlands, Kingwood.

Sugar Land is more multi-cultural than the other popular suburbs, its nice too (it's where nearly all of Houston's professional athletes live), but has a bit of a problem with violent crime (moreso than any others listed above) and its proximity to the most dangerous parts of Houston.

If you're going to be working on Yorktown, you should probably look at Sugar Land or Katy. Cinco Ranch is popular.

did you just define Cinco Ranch, Kelliwoods, Seven lakes area as lame and barren? .. then go on to recommend Cinco Ranch.

If I read it right then your whole post is tree-centric. Which i'm guessing is not the deciding factor for most homebuyers. By the way the trees in Cinco Ranch are maturing quite nicely and I have two 40 foot oaks in my front yard in Cinco Ranch. It wasn't built in the midst of an existing forest but it's not exactly the definiton of prarie life out here since they developed it.

Yeah you're probably right about that. Maybe buffalo exchange.

I always think of the 'Beck' song from his album "Odelay"

Ahhhhhhhhhh!!

You only got one finger left

And its pointing at the door

And youre taking for granted

What the lords made on the floor

So Im picking up the pieces

And Im putting them up for sale

Throw your meal ticket out the window

Put your skeletons in jail

cause lord only knows its getting late

Your senses are gone so dont you hesitate

To give yourself a call let your bottom dollars fall

Throwing your two bit cares down the drain

Invite me to the seven seas like some seasick man

You will do whatever you please and Ill do whatever I can

Titantic, fare thee well, my eyes are turning pink

Dont call us when the new age gets old enough to drink

cause lord only knows its getting late

Your senses are gone so dont you hesitate

Move on up the hill theres nothing dead left to kill

Throwing your two bit cares down the drain

Odelay, odelay, odelay, odealy odelay, odelay

Just passing through

Odelay, odelay, odelay, odealy

Going back to houston

Do the hotdog dance

Going back to houston

To get me some pants.....

I don't know what the hotdog dance is but maybe he gets his pants at the galleria?

It's on a street called Yorktown. And if I quote the general geographics of Houston correctly.....that street is near the west side of the inner loop.

I was on the Houston Chronicle website looking at homes and school districts in the North/Montgomery, Northwest, West/Katy, and SW/Fort Bend areas (that's how the Chron has them laid out).

Welcome to the forum and to Houston

Nice spot to work there, If you can avoid the traffic with flexible hours or a reverse commute. It would help us suggest an area if we had a rough idea of your budget. Thanks and good luck

Wow, I am often amazed at how many people believe in the proposition of life on other planets. I guess if you believe in a full scientific explanation of the origin of life and our species it is not a huge stretch. But for me it clashes with my thoughts on the origin and complexity of life. Fun to think about though

....And plenty of queers to get married there

A super Target is being designed for this location (and all the pad sites, ie., banks, fast food, that go along with it). Southwest corner of westhiemr and Eldridge south to richmond. that whole tract.

anyone here have personal experiance with an abortion choice?

for some reason I can't stand it when someone pronounces BOTH like BOLTH. Dammit there is no L in that word!!!

I've always wondered why 'Christians' (and yes MANY) Americans are so afraid of EVERYTHING. America --and by extension Americans-- seems to be so fearful of ... life. The Chinese, illegal immigrants, 'minorities' in their neighborhods and schools, gays, the Taliban ... we're seem to just be a nation, increasingly, of everything we don't understand or don't wish to accept as 'life'.

Makes me question our courage, patriotism, and yes, the convictions of our religious beliefs.

I do not worship a fearful God and I certainly do not expect that my God expects me to be fearful either.

What's up with our collective fear of 'the world'?

And I have always wondered why so many people including you attribute fear to judging, intolerance, or dislike. I may have distain for something but that does not mean I fear it. You are selling people short with this mentality as you think they are doing to you.

Another one related I have always wondered about was they word intolerance is thrown around alot now days. To me If I have to tolerate something it is something I have to put up with that I don't believe in, or agree with. If homosexuals feel they are naturally made then they don't want to just be tolerated. they want to be respected. So why is this word used so much?

In other words from my perspective, If someone is telling me I am being intolerant by being against gay marriage, I say yeah you're right I am, so.. I don't want to tolerate that. Am I applying the wrong connatations to this word?

How would the existing proposed path be logical? There's not even a damned road there.

Why not run it right through the heart of one of the hottest communities in the country where so much growth is occuring?

Hey, why not run it through the middle of Longwood? Oh, because it is an existing community and we don't go around throwing freeways in the middle of them do we?

seriously though this post is ridiculous isn't it?

What a disastrous first series. Say something to make me feel better.

1. the cardinals got swept too. and even though they were playing the mets, they scored 2 runs in the series.

2. our starting pitching has looked great to pretty good so far.

The very few homes you find in Cinco and like areas for $150,000 are 10 years old, without the amenities and upgrades you find in newer homes. Anyone looking for a new home today in Cinco/Seven Meadows/Grand Lakes etc, better look at spending $200K+.

This being said, at the moment CRHS and SLHS sit amongst some of the higher price/sq ft homes today, but if the trend of older homes being bypassed in favor of new construction continues, where will CRHS and SLHS be 20 years from now?

This concept of newer homes being more valuable than old is new to me - I am from the N.O. area - and new construction is a rare thing - most people buy resell homes. The youngest home I lived in was 40ish and the oldest 120ish. No less desirable because of it's age or lack of "upgrades". Kind of makes me worry that my home will not appreciate in value as much as i would like :-(

2 years ago I bought my house in Cinco. It paid somewhere around 165,000. It was 5 years old. I don't really understand what you mean about having less amenities? or upgrades in a previously owned house. I do my own upgrades rather than pay builder adjusted prices for the same work. That being said my home is only 7 years old. So there have been no technological/ builder material advances that make my house obsolete. At the time to buy a comprable home in cinco ranch west or seven meadows (square footage/build quality) i would have had to pay at least 180,000 probably 190,000. when the area is completely built out in another couple of years the trend towards buying new will have to reverse and that does not mean home values will go to shite.

but the suburbs ain't River Oaks....as long as KB Homes and others can sneak in those small homes in areas people will get in...

I've been around long enough to see HISD, FBISD, Aldine ISD, SBISD, Alief ISD, etc. change overnight....where do you go from there?

thats why its important to some who value this kind of thing to research an area before they buy. over 8000 homes have now sold in cinco ranch. one would be hard pressed to find a home here for less than 150,000. most sections have nothing less than 180,000. if i had to guess an average it would be in the 250,000 range?? surrounding cinco ranch in the south katy are Kelliwood, grand lakes, seven meadows, among others. these neighborhoods cost more to get in. unless i am wrong, all of these areas are zoned to either cinco ranch hgih school or seven lakes. these are pretty affluent schools. that is what this thread is about there is cheaper housing being built on the north side of I-10 where there are/where more segmented smaller tracts of land. there is also some very nice housing there too. I think the divide has already been created. I don;t know what we could do to help it? assuming one wanted to help.

All the schools lookd different 30 years ago.

and people are moving into different classes of housing than they were 30 years ago. if an affluent area maintains its values or appreciates then po-folk can't move in. all areas are different it's hard to generalize and say any area with a mixed crowd will go to ship.

Then there are those of us who actually live in Katy (Katy Proper) that despise every master-planned community out here whichever side of the freeway it's on.

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To be true, I think cinco ranch is the only "master planned community" in the area. Your point is made, but to each his own. Thats one of the things about this country a man or woman is free to choose what is best for him and his family as far as housing and many other things.

I think the point of this post was just to compare these neighborhoods/area to the woodlands and give some insight to someone who wanted to know the advantages to one over the other.

Shaub is no Carr. People keep forgetting that.

you're right he may be worse.

and this unknown is what bothers me. his draft gradeout puts him below Carr he was drafted in the third round and has been a backup for two years.

generally i don't mind the swap at the spot but they now have signed him to a fat contract on potential and named him to be a starter. this is equivilent with how you treat a first round draft pick QB. combined with how they let Carr go as a favor to him is not good business.

Shaubie has to take this team to the playoffs immediately. and they should be immediatelly better, the team went 6-7 in their last 13 games and were close to winning 2 more.

cinco ranch information

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I think I would narrow it down to 7 Meadows or Grand Lakes maybe cinco ranch west.

It is hard to quantify but I would choose either based on...

1. proximity to the grand parkway.

this sounds odd but this is a very nicely designed stretch of road between 1093 and i-10 with no feeders and nice landscape berms shielding housing and development.

2. related to the above, location. both neighborhoods are centrally located in the "south katy area" far enough away from the ugly strip centers closer to I-10 and just far enough away from 1093 westpark tollway. (which may prove to be an economic dividing line. but certainly is the boundary between KISD and Lamar Consolidated ISD.

3. To exclude westheimer lakes I would say that it is just outside the location circle I would prefer, a little to west and a little to close to 1093. possible future traffic problems could arise with out multiple arteries out of the development.

4. to exclude cinco ranch west is harder. I like this one too. association fees may be higher? I live in cinco ranch i think they are about 800 a year, but lots of ammenities to use.

5. grand lakes is nice. nice pocket parks and street layouts condusive to neighborhood interaction. nicely landscaaped nice choice of good homebuilders and good schools.

6. seven meadows is very nice too. I think this would be my number 1 choice for new construction here. nice development. new schools, nice landscape, hardscape. quality home builders.

this is all just my opinion living in the area for the last 3 years. i think i would rank them 1. seven meadows 2. cinco ranch west. 3. grand lakes. 4. westheimer lakes north. you will enjoy the communitty likely in any of these developments just pick a home you can live with and love for a while. homes are not short term investments in this area. obviously not new construction. good luck

I would reccomend staying in KISD and for that matter zoned to the schools south of I-10 if possible

Helping the Katy Area

Current Problems:

1.Social Gap ocurring, that in the future may result in in a conflict between North Katy, and South Katy.

Like a civil war? a paintball war? A race war? I am just trying to invision what kind of conflict you percieve.

I don't think there is any way to stop the type of "migration" you speak of. If you are concerned about the area you live in ther may not be much more you can do than move. I just don't know how you could encourage upscale development where you want it.

there is and has been for a long time an economic divide along I-10 all the way into town to 610 or farther. The Energy corridor was a big contributor to the housing growing where it did and the demand for quality housing developments.