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There is a load of old drive in intermission films on u-tube.. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...p;search=Search This one probably from 1960 judging from the vehicles.. Pretty good.. A full 10 min countdown flick, with extra tidbits, even a plug for the boy scouts.. Go to church, see a doc once a year, etc, etc.. :/ Note the "Bar-B-Q.." Not exactly the tastiest looking slab of fat/meat I've ever seen.. lol This one is pretty low budget in comparison, and probably fairly old.. At least back to the 50's I would think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQg1bIZesqk...ted&search= MK

32 ford promo- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNAele2PHZc 32 essex terraplane- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVh7sZl2H8c 35 chevy leader news vol1#1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFKIu1cApTk 35 chevy leader news vol1#2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SForIKLGHwk 35 chevy leader news vol1#3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yl-k0ocG98 36 chevy leader news vol2#1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGs1p_CcQQE 36 chevy leader news vol2#2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS796XHuF7c 37 plymouth- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPqfC5SFZfI 41 olds special 60 b-44- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkEPTwc9Qe0 41 olds dynamic 70 b-44- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBnj7yynt_I 41 olds magic carpet hydromatic- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qul77-xgjOU 41 olds custom 8 cruiser b-44- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWp_-C34gjE 41 olds b-44- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0kiVyP-iI 41 olds defense- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5NxfDS94YA 48 olds futuramic- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2ZorkAD6O4 49 olds futeramic- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNpdUua0urE 49 ford - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCYr3MvnjpQ...ted&search= 50 olds- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8lj0nt7_EM 52 chevy- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGZvQoPxhNs 54 chevy corvette- 55 de soto#2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5hobfIlsGE 55 de soto- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seG0BQ8fLec 55 nash- 55 nash rambler- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G64bXqvpMfg 55 chevy- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvHUUWaLfUc 55 chevy/color- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Vz4ZrDLms 55 chevy-pontiac/color http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTlGT7w5ud8 56 chevy promo- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b29iLQGv_CA 56 chevy- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A1UDmW0P_A 56 chevy- stunt cars- 56 ford- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDk_TEM257k 57 ford- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dWRLS_VCCU 57 ford retractable- 57 plymouth- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkpcbrekJwE 57 de soto- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmhTLcKevZc 57 chevy- 57 chevy task force trucks-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDZm7w-IovM 57 lincoln- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUkyPVRmZ3Q 57 olds- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcU4FrrjN-4 58 de soto- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvvuiYGVOQU 58 plymouth- 58 plymouth-- 58 ford- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYX89ufRrMU 59 chevy- 59 chevy bel air- 59chevywagon- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSo-hlDK8sQ 59 dodge- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeiS-Yl6UjI 59 de soto- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCsTZV3hyYI 60chevy corvette/impala- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-RjR1bjJSo 60 plymouth- 60 ford- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FJQu1rHbQ4 60 ford- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0WrMsb5lRM 60 ford T bird- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3PpbxrIuc4 61 chevy- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpOCLD6RfCU 61 chevy testing- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2aVi2gp2ZY 61 studebaker lark- 61 studebaker lark- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oubyXIlJrJw 61 studebaker lark- 62 pontiac grand prix- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huSABUvutmA 63 chevy- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj0-UR3ib88 63 chevy corvette-- 63 chevy corvette/corvair- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7zmuY20ZM4 63 studebaker - 63 studebaker wagonaire- 64 ford mustang- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vDaJdkLOPk 67 mustang shelby gt- 68 mustang shelby gt- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpUDrd8L9Hg I found one of the hour long collections.. It's still there.. It dupes some of those above, but a few are different.. IE: has some Edsel commercials.. Classic car commercials http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFXEps2KMJg I also added a few more car clips.. IE: 35 and 36 chevy leader news. A few more random network ID's, some program clips to jog some memories. 40's NBC ID http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN0lyBIqLwE 50s Dumont ID http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr9n8RBmKPc&NR=1 Early 50's NBC ID http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNJQrSibNtM 50's NBC ID http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRlYBsx7cwI...ted&search= 50's NBC ID http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sMwScWa_hA 50's tv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA-hlxxXM0Q...ted&search= 50-60's tv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmBVkJf80eU This one is a collection of RCA commercials. Almost like a mini history of TV sets and radios. Well, from the RCA point of view anyway.. It's about an hour long also, but pretty good. Lots of picture tube commercials are included. I still remember those days.. Replacing a picture tube was pretty common, and I even remember us having to change one back in the early 60's in our old 50's Admiral. These days most TV's have become disposable.. In one set of color 1960 ad's, the sound seems to be damaged.. it's not your set.. But they are still pretty good. The sound comes back after those are over.. 50's-60's RCA commercials http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g920JS_B_ug BTW, I had to re edit this post.. I added another reply, and for some reason it thrashed the whole deal.. Maybe this will bring back into order.. MK

Yea, I was a cub scout, and then a boy scout. Both in Kansas, and then here in Houston. We used the scout house which was at the park next to Parker Elementary School. "Appx Mullins and Willowbend". It's been so long, I forgot what our number was.. I think I made it to "Star" if I remember right, never made Eagle.. Myself, I always liked the camping, but was not much on merit badges, etc.. To this day, if I'm out camping with people, I'm usually the one that starts the fires... :/ I could always start a fire with just one match.. We used to practice that all the time. I never had the patience to use flint, etc though.. I'd been to Strake a few times. We used to have one up in Kansas we went to also, but I'm forgetting the name offhand.. I remember once up in Kansas I was at a campout, and our site got hit by a tornado. We were all in the usual army style tents.. I remember watching our coleman stove which was on a stand fly away, never to be seen again. Then the sides of the tent starting flapping, whoop, whoop, whoop, and I thought it was gonna go too, but it finally passed over and we were left intact. No one was hurt, but all the parents were called, and we went home early. We also used to camp in the winter too. I remember once it was 5 below zero, heavy snow, etc.. We came through ok, but I remember my feet almost freezing off about 5 am in the morning.. I had to get up early to warm them up.. Naturally, I restarted the fire myself being I got up first... It had just enough buried coals from the night before that I was able to relight it with only kindling. I remember one time at Strake , some of the scoutmasters brought their rifles, guns, etc to give a show and tell about firearm safety.. We had some kind of safe back drop or whatever they were shooting into. They were actually shooting big elephant rifles out there.. BOOOOOOMMM!!!! Overall, I remember my scout days as generally being pretty fun. BTW, as far as I know, that parker school scouthouse is still there. At least it was the last time I looked. Also..That scout manual looks kinda old.. Older than 67 unless I'm confused.. I had one about that time, or close, and seems mine looked different, and maybe more modern.. Been a long time though.. They also had the magazine "Boys Life" or whatever it was that they sent out about every month. MK

I don't think it's all HDTV.. The main deal is the VHF/UHF analog broadcasts will cease, and all broadcasts after that time will be digital. So you would need a digi to analog converter. Those should be fairly cheap they say.. But not all digital is HD.. I think most of the TV's sold now should already include a digital tuner. I'll probably get a digi tuner for my computer before too long. HD capable too I imagine. My computer is my TV.. I'm semi HD capable now.. My puter as TV is about as good as all the HD sets I've seen in stores so far. But I'd need a new tuner to use the highest res they offer. I can only run 720i I think as it is... Still way better than any standard TV. I think the longer you wait before the cutoff, the less the stuff will cost. MK

She was set fairly well by her bookie husband Claude Paulus. Not totally loaded, but she wasn't hurting for money. He was still alive when she was first asked about knocking off Hill. He heard about it, and totally hit the roof.. He told her not to get involved.. I guess she didn't listen. He died a bit later, and I guess no one was left to tell her what to do.. Or not to do.. I never really made up my mind if Hill killed his wife.. Good chance of it, but it's hard to really prove. But I'm fairly certain that Ash knocked off Hill via Paulus, etc... Who else would waste their time? Once he got it in his mind that John killed Joan, he was totally obsessed. And had the money to take it anywhere he wanted to. It didn't take Ash long to decide that John did it.. He pretty much came to that conclusion the morning of Joans funeral. It was all downhill from there. I wonder if Paulus is still alive. I hadn't heard one way or the other.. She may well be gone by now.. MK

Here is the oldest "band" photo I have so far, that was actually in Houston.. Was taken in 1921.. MK

Brittains broiler burger.. It was on the corner in the same place as the closed tape rental place, and at one time, after broiler burger left, it was a churches chicken joint. I used to go to broiler burger all the time. In fact, I think I still remember my usual order.. A #5 I think it was... Was a burger with Bar-B-Q sauce on it... Pretty good... I also went to the churches quite a bit when it first opened up. I think that corner building is vacant at the moment, but I'd have to look closer. MK

I believe you. I'm well aware of the CAF..They didn't exist in 1947... I've also read of them storing many old planes over by Ellington field back about that time. Back then, they probably had them sitting all over the place until they got around to selling them, or scrapping them out. The country churned out a lot of aircraft during ww2. Lots of boats, etc also. Many of the old planes were sold to other countries, individuals, etc. Some were kept in service through the Korean war period.. IE: They flew P-51 Mustangs up through the Korean war, and many other countries bought our old planes to use in their air forces. Usually fairly meager compared to ours.. I think they flew some B-29's etc up through the 50's. The ww2 era planes I've seen in old pix of Sam Houston were likely bought by individuals, ex ww2 pilots, etc. MK

Even the B-29 was pretty good sized.. As far as the ones oft used in Europe, would be the B-17, B-24, B-25, etc.. The B-36 was huge.. My uncle used to fly those things in the 50's. The B-29's stick out due to their nose look.. Quite a bit different than the others.. I'm not sure which area was actually the South Main drive in during that period.. I thought it was fairly close to OST. Where as Sam Houston was across the street from where Butler stadium is now.. For some reason, I don't think they would have been at Sam Houston, unless whatever people there might have owned them. I have seen WW2 aircraft parked in pictures of Sam Houston, but not on any big scale like a storage area for bombers. MK

Thats what I was thinking. Icee was the first of the two, no doubt.. And I always thought they came from 7-11's.. ?? I'm not sure about U-totems though.. I forgot what they had.. Anyway, as I remember the slurpees came out from Stop and Go. That was their answer to 7-11's icees.. Course, maybe they sold icees at other places.. I don't know if "Icee" was a 7-11 brand, or a brand of frozen slush sold to anyone that wanted to cough up for a machine.. As I remember from the old days, the guy working the counter ran the machine and poured it into cups.. It wasn't a self serve thang like they all are today. When the majority of the 7-11's were bought out and replaced by Stop in Go's, it was hard to find an actual Icee.. Stop and Go was slurpee land.. Myself, I alway preferred the monster size cup cokes, that I used to buy in the summers from most Stop and Go's.. And I had a large 32++ oz or so cup that I could refill for real cheap.. So I knew about where every stop/go in town was... I chugged em non stop in the summer due to working. MK

It wouldn't surprise me if the ride part was true. Like you say, Hughes would get an idea in his head to do something, and no one could tell him otherwise.. He ruled his roost, with the exception of being so out of it physically that he couldn't even hardly go out on the street without attracting a lot of attention. I read a pretty good book on him, and his later life, but I can't remember the name offhand. Much was written by the people that took care of him, and I think most was fairly factual. He would get an idea in his head, and there was pretty much no stopping him if he decided that was what he was going to do. One example was flying.. In his later raggedy years, at one point he decided he wanted to go fly again. So he had his cronies round up a learjet, and they had to find an extra pilot, which they did. But they got him into the plane, and he could hardly fly the thing. I think they did cruise around the country for a while, but the "co-pilot" had to do most of the actual flying. Just the secretive ways he would do things was worth a book in itself.. IE: He would make the pilots stand outside when boarding, so they couldn't see him.. I guess he assumed they wouldn't recognize him once he decided to crawl into the cockpit... :/ Of course, everyone knows about his problems dealing with germs.. But he was also quirky about his food.. He would decide he would want something like say chicken soup.. Then he might eat nothing but chicken soup for the next three months.. Then finally one day they would bring the same soup in, and he would finally decide on something else. Which he would then usually eat it for the next three months. He would sit in his darkened room and watch movies nearly 24/7.. Ice station zebra was one of his fav's.. He could watch it over and over and over again.. I wish I had that book handy so I could remember more tidbits.. Anyway, that book gave most of the behind the scenes details of his everyday life, including all the hassles of moving from here to there, country to country. It was often like a 3 ring circus, with all the secrecy involved. The book also included the details of the last trip to Houston. He was so far gone at that point, he probably didn't even know he was in a jet.. Most seem to think it was about 1960 when he started getting really weird.. The TWA thing he had went through evidentally put of a lot of strain on him, and something snapped a bit, and he turned reclusive.. But anyway, he did quite a few things in his life to earn his way into the history books. Just the aviation stuff was pretty notable. And I think thats where his heart really was until the end. He sat in his bed, and dreamed of flying airplanes, etc.. And like I say, sometimes he acted on the impulses, even though it was a major ordeal for him to do so. But he had so many "yes men" around him, he could pull it off. So it wouldn't surprise me at all that he would decide to go ride a motorcycle. And wrecking it sounds about par for the course, considering his condition.. But giving away 156 mil.. Why 156? Why not an even 150 mil? It's the "odd" number which makes me think that part is hogwash.. But then again, you never know.. I don't think anyone ever will for sure. Of course, to HRH, 156 mil was chump change... MK

Dunno. Thats a pretty good question. I remember when I lived in Dallas as a young kid, I saw them all the time. They ran around the backyard, and I used to catch loads of em.. I've lived here since 1969, and I can't remember if I've ever seen one here or not.. Maybe one or two a long time ago, but they are rare for sure. I often wonder how the areas north of here are holding up as far as those. IE: Does Dallas still have em? I know they used to have loads of them. One thing interesting...This past weekend I took a drive out west to a friend of mines property. He has 8 acres near Cistern Tx, which is in Fayette<sp?> county. When we were there, my friend mentioned that his son found one there recently. So, I guess there are still a few out in the boonies. I remember in Oklahoma they used to have quite a few there also, and ditto for many sections of AR. They were quite common around Roff, OK, where my grandmother used to live. That is near Ada. Also it seems I used to see them in Hot Springs, AR at my other grandparents. Not sure how they held up there. I recently bought 5 acres on Lake Eufaula in OK, and I've been up there clearing some downed trees, brush, etc, but haven't seen one there yet. But I haven't had that place too long, so the jury is still out.. Lots of critters on that property though.. I wonder how pollution factors into all this vs clearing of habitat.. Note the absence of lightning bugs in this area.. I'm fairly sure they were natural to this area, but you rarely see them now. Most sources claim air pollution is the main reason for those dwindling away. The reason I question clearing of habitat, is they had loads of them in out our residential area of Dallas in the 50's.. The houses, etc didn't seem to bother them then.. So I wonder if it is something with the air quality. Quite a few lightning bugs up at Lake Eufaula..I saw them as early as April this year, when it was still on the cool side. MK

They are all buildings, houses, but I'm not sure what would have been there in 1922. The camp hospital seems to be in that area, but not sure what happened to the buildings after the war was over. Looks like they built more in that area. I don't think it was actually a park until 1925, which would be three years after that topo map was drawn. MK

>I compared it with a KeyMap, and it appears that that cluster of black rectangles in the lower center of the map (which I assume are the barracks) would cover the present day streets of >Terrace, East Cowan, and West Cowan, which are just to the north of Memorial Dr. and just outside of the present day park. So it would seem that the barracks of Camp Logan were not >actually in Memorial Park. Are you going by the color topo map above? I think that was in 1922 when Camp Logan was gone. None of the barracks are in that picture that I can see. Many of the barracks were inside what is now the park. Both north, and south of Memorial. Here is the drawing of the camp with the pieces put together. North is up. MK

I'm pretty sure most do date from Camp Logan. What I like about the map, is I can actually see fairly close what parts of the park they actually camped in. I never knew for sure until I saw that map. They had them lined up on the straight entrance to the park, and also back a bit to the east. But it looks like the bulk of the camp was north of what is now memorial. All the training grounds, barracks, etc... Most of that is golf course now I guess. MK

Used to be one on W.Bellfort about 2 lots down from the Meyer branch library.. I think it's a car wash now though.. I forgot the name, but I don't think it was a putt-putt.. Something else.. MK

The track location looks pretty close. I think picture #11 where all the soldiers are on horseback may well be at the entrance to what is now picnic lane. Not totally sure, but the way the ditch on the side of the road looks, it sure likes like the road in front of the ballball place, etc. I haven't been out there in quite a while, but the south side of the street has the large parking lot lining it, with the open area across the street where people often play football, etc.. I'm not sure if the ditch you see in the picture is the north or south side, but to this day, the north side has a definite "ditch" on the side of the road, and the east may too, but I always remember the north side as standing out more. So I'm kinda leaning to that being the north side of the road, looking east, but just speculation. yea, know what you mean about looking back in time. I like old pictures.. Have 100's and 100's and 100's of them on my hard drive. I just now looked in just one folder alone and had 2300 pictures in it.. What I like is many of the old pictures have quite high quality, even compared to todays B/W standards. IE: Some of Brady's civil war pix are amazing quality for the mid 1800's. The first picture ever taken was in 1839..Of course, I have it on my hard drive.. It's a self poitrait of the picture taker.. I also collect lots of the large city panaramic photo's. It's weird to look at an old picture and know that everyone in it is long gone.. But except for some old sound clips from the late 1800's, the old pictures are the next best thing to climbing into a time machine. MK

Isuredid, I got your mail about the junction, but when I replied it said your box was full. That is near the junction, but not totally sure exactly where. The pix is not cropped. Check this site.. Thats where I got that picture and map. http://www.jimgill.net/gill/wwipages/index.html You can check the map sections, and maybe get a clue.. Also lots more pix that I haven't posted yet.. Also has all his letter from the camp, which are a pretty interesting read. Note that there is a pix of a water tower. That is on the map, and also near the junction. There may be others taken near that area. MK

Over the past few years of internet collecting, I've scrounged up quite a few pictures of Camp Logan. I haven't seen much listed on it, so I thought I would throw a few on. Here are 15 of them.. I also have a detailed map of the camp that was drawn by a map maker soldier who was there. The writing you see on the pictures is backwards, but the image itself is the right way. It's only the writing that is backwards. Sorry if these dupe any others might have already posted.. I get these from various sites.. Many came from the library of congress, but some came from other sites. I've got more, but I don't want to bog you all down at one time.. I'm on cable now, so pretty zippy, but I realize it can take a while for a dial up to load the page.. So I better not get too carried away.. MKhttp://home.comcast.net/~disk100/pc_drill.jpg

There were some weird things that happened that day.. It's kinda wierd.. I just ran across two clips dealing with this recently.. One was a clip I ran across on you tube. It deals with the supposed yanking of the secret service bodyguards off that motorcade.. Kinda strange.. The agents seemed to think so too.. Another is the "KILT" audio which was recorded at the time the bulletins first hit the air that afternoon. http://vasthead.com/Radio/KILT/KILT_1963_11-22.mp3 Now, obviously there are problems in the info they are getting.. IE: they thought LBJ was shot at one point. The part I thought was sort of interesting is the first details of the shooting, the first details of the wound locations.. The first reports aired, claimed the shots seem to come from the grassy knoll.. :/ It was a bit later that they also started looking at the buildings behind them also.. Also, the first reports of the wound location claim he was shot in the temple, from the front.. :/ I have also seen reports that the first doctors that looked at him thought he was shot from the front, and reported as such, but this was changed later.. Myself, I dunno.. I'm kinda mixed on whether Oswald was the lone gunman.. My gut instinct tells me he was not alone, but I'm not quite sure I would want to label the goverment as being in on the scheme. It's possible some members of government might have been in on it though. IE: if they had mob connections, etc.. I'm still not totally convinced the mob didn't have something to do with it. And having a "mobster" IE: Ruby, kill the shooter is just like something the mob would cook up to keep him quiet. And Ruby did have some mob connections so they say. And the mob had a motive of sorts.. #1, JFK had that mob guy up in Chicago not too happy with him.. And #2, RFK was constantly on their butts about one thing or another. I won't even get into all the Cuban stuff.. He had people mad at him for that deal... It's enough to make you wonder sometimes.. I really don't see LBJ being in on it.. Why would anyone tell the VP they are going to kill the prez.. Doesn't really make sense. MK

That's a great website on B & C.. Best I've seen so far.. Has so much stuff I couldn't see it all last night.. And yes, some of the pages do mention them/him being in Houston, and even being part of a gang at one point.. I forgot the name of the gang though.. Also has a link to Blanche Barrows website, which was good too. She was actually kind of a hottie in some pix when she was young... Ditto for Bonnie in some older pix, before she hooked up with Clyde.. :/ MK