Mister X

Janet: I don't like men with TOO many muscles.

Frank: I didn't make him FOR YOU!

predictable post is predictable.

Oh. A predicted post predicting prediction. How predictable.

If there is one thing I have learned at HAIF, it is that renderings ARE a binding, legal contract that are enforceable in a court of law. In fact, once anything is posted on the internet, this includes both renderings and casual comments by totally anonymous, uncredited, non-professionals, it is obligated to be built exactly as the rendering, drawing, sketch or doodle implies or the offending poster can be sentenced to die by lethal injection or firing squad. These internet rendering laws are so strict that if even so much as one hair on one of those people's heads in that rendering above is not styled EXACTLY like what is seen in the rendering, the entire city of Houston can legally be nuked off the face of planet earth.

This is a proven fact and so there is no need to debate this issue any further.

Buzz Killington strikes again.

Agreed about the orientation. The effect would be much better with buildings encircling Discovery Green. Do you suppose they even gave that a thought?

It's exquisite.

One positive to draw on from the orientation of this hotel is that it would allow another tower behind the hotel to also have views of Discovery Green. Another tower behind this hotel could also lend to an 'encircling' effect - which I agree would be a good thing.

I thought Gary was being too kind.

The luxury of rail travel.

The cost of "freedom".

AGAIN, honest to God it's the water. It MUST be. TheCompSet, give it up now because it truly is hopeless. Unbelievable how your words were interpreted......... yet not surprising.

People with bad taste are always wanting to hang blinking lights on everything.

My guess is that you have a velvet painting of Jesus, Elvis and/or John Wayne hanging in the living room of your trailer.

Believe me, the only ones impressed with superficial flashy things on the sides of tall buildings are always straight from the sticks. The last thing the Houston skyline needs are a bunch of hillbilly exterior "designers" calling the shots.

If you need to go slumming for cheap sparkly things, just take a hike to Dallas - they have taken trashy lighting to a new high in low. Houstonians should try very hard not to let its skylines look like the one in Dallas. One laughing stock skyline is enuf for Texas.

Sounds like amateur hour on Mad Men. One tacky faux Vegas butt-kissing wannabee city is enuf in Texas. I'd rather have a few people with bad taste call Houston boring looking at night than to see it's skyline ruined with a bunch of tacky blinking ads. Pass.

Embrace advertising? Is this a joke?

...but lots of underground. I hate wires. No exceptions! Money is no object. Bury those damned things already.

There is a good reason 'no bueno' has -135 points.

Haters are hideous.

The posts seem to be getting longer on here.

Unconditional love is so awesome.

LOL!

And other people grow up to be trolls on the internet.

Thanks for providing such great examples. They're perfect. I'm sure burger flippers everywhere are singing your praises.

Then I'm sure that there's a Sim City thread somewhere on HAIF. The commercial real estate environment is not a unicorn farm.

HAIF must be an agonizing place for someone who doesn't enjoy looking at renderings and lets face it, very few don't have at least a few unicorns grazing around. You should remember that before you even open a thread about a new project so that you don't get upset. The commercial real estate environment is where these renderings come from - or are at least responsible for the creation of a great many of them.

This thread is about the new convention center hotel - someone posted a nice rendering. I enjoyed looking at it. I'm sure there is a thread at HAIF where there are no renderings of anything. But I doubt there are any that don't have something for you to complain about.

But anyway, HAIF is NOT the commercial real estate environment. It is a forum where people discuss projects, master plans, and visions - among other things. I see nothing wrong with posting renderings and for people to make comments (good or bad) on them or just enjoy looking at them if they want to. You don't have to like them if you don't want to. In fact, I think there is a button somewhere around here that might even make sure renderings or photos never even show up on your browser to bother you at all.

I like the rendering because it gives a hint as to what the area could look like one day. Plus it's fun to look at. Also like that it represents a long term vision of the area. It may not be perfectly realistic in every sense of the word, but there is nothing wrong with illustrating a vision. If anyone want to take it as a contract, that's their problem.

Personally, I hope the area looks better than that rendering one day. I hope the new convention hotel across from the park is much taller than the one in the rendering. The Houston skyline could use a little more height in that area. That is an opinion - not a contract.

So which is it? Are the people in the back of the room losers who are destined to flip burgers or your many friends who went on in in life to bigger and better things?

As you post this from the anonymity of the breakroom at Burger King.

I think it is highly admirable of you to use your clout as an "upper middle class" citizen to defend people who choose to sit in the back of the room.

To answer your question, - a little of both. Some people grow out of being a D-student and some just defend them on the internet.

I always sat in the back of the room and hated and made fun of those people that sat on the front row sucking up. Slept thru 1/2 my classes and stirred up crap in the 1/2 I was awake in.

Never flipped a burger in my life (for pay - my grill don't count) and never thought outside the box either - that expression makes me puke since the people spouting it usually have nothing useful to add to the conversation so they start talking about the 30,000 -foot view and deliverables since reality confuses them too much.

Now while I'm not in the 1%, I am making good money - guess I'm comfortably upper middle class - probably better off than most of the front row residents.

Nice stereotyping.

I'm sorry if my comment offended you. I love burgers and I had many friends who sat in the back of the class who went on to better things. But, they didn't get to those better things by settling for less. I'm sure your post gives hope to many others who go to classes to goof off. Yes, they will always be able to tell everyone what a successful astronaut or cowboy they became on the anonymous internet.

Thank you! That's quite a compliment. Only, you call it blandness and I call it professionalism. That's what I expect from my elected or appointed officials. There is a difference, btw, between not trying hard enough and simply doing it wrong. If I had "aimed high" in my math class by adding one to every solution, then I'd probably not have graduated high school and would've been stuck flipping burgers. Enthusiasm is no substitute for accuracy.

I love professionalism. But what is the point of even having a convention center if it can't attract conventions. As someone who loves Houston, you won't hear me complaining (too much) about our corporate look. I'm not suggesting that we turn Houston into Las Vegas, but in the case of attracting business conventions, and out-of-towners, I don't think a little bling, some first-rate amenities or a convenient place to shop would hurt a convention center 'district'. Discovery Green is a great asset already in place to really make this area special. I hope city leaders run with it and utilize it to make this area of downtown as appealing as possible.

I'm not talking about affixing a strip of blinking multi-colored LED lights along the barrel of one's rifle. I'm talking about affixing a strip of blinking lights (or hopefully something much more tasteful) to give a convention center district the best chance it can get to compete with other cities who don't seem to have any problem justifying going the extra mile when it comes to giving visitors something to remember when visiting their city.

One can aim high without affixing a strip of blinking multi-colored LED lights along the barrel of one's rifle. But then, I never really understood that expression. Why should anyone aim high? We should be aiming at what we intend to shoot with proper adjustments for windage and elevation. Aiming high is just a waste of ammunition. It's stupid.

It's more stupid to waste your big chance by letting people with no sense of vision call the shots.

I don't think I ever heard anyone defend mediocrity or blandness so well. If nothing else, people need to aim high in order to counter those who aim low, don't try or don't care. You remember, they always sat in the back of the classroom. A lot of them are now flipping burgers. Somehow, aiming for that 'A' seemed a waste of ammunition. Some people are incapable of going the extra mile or thinking out side the box. Hopefully, giving in to the mundane when there is a chance of improving your situation will be a philosophy present and future city leaders will avoid.

Continue aiming low Niche. But don't try to drag the rest of Houston down with you - for you, that would be aiming high.

Remember this? It's a little 2007ish but maybe its time has come.