editor Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Like:Top Sites (better implementation than Opera)Faster loadingFaster renderingMore organized web site suggestions in address barDislike:New Loading spinny thing instead of background color barToo professional lookingMuted colorsMuted RSS indicatorCorners too rounded (tabs, drop-downs, etc...)Anyone else have any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Like:Top Sites (better implementation than Opera)Faster loadingFaster renderingMore organized web site suggestions in address barDislike:New Loading spinny thing instead of background color barToo professional lookingMuted colorsMuted RSS indicatorCorners too rounded (tabs, drop-downs, etc...)Anyone else have any thoughts?Leaving work to update when I get home.Will let you know.Yay WWDC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernicke Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I'm digging it... seems significantly faster, and I have already become accustomed to using the Top Sites functionality.The new loading bar thing is kind of strange though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'm digging it... seems significantly faster, and I have already become accustomed to using the Top Sites functionality.The new loading bar thing is kind of strange though.Takes some of the round cues from the iPhone Safari.All and all, I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barracuda Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Will let you know after I upgrade. Too many windows open right now to deal with the required restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'm loving it but I've been using Safari 4 beta for months now and I'm not seeing many new features - although better speed and stability than the beta is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmer Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Well, I've been happily using Safari 4 beta, but Safari 4 final is broken for me. The bookmarks bar is gone, the scroll bars are gone, and windows are way too wide with a big blank area on the left and center, and all the content on the far right, out of sight, with no way to scroll to it. Thank goodness for Firefox. Top Sites is badly distorted and again, most of them are hidden. This is independent of screen resolution settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 I like how enlarging the page (Command +) also enlarges pictures now, too. I believe this is another feature that Opera pioneered, but Apple implemented well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'm loving it but I've been using Safari 4 beta for months now and I'm not seeing many new features - although better speed and stability than the beta is awesome.They moved the tabs again !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 They moved the tabs again !!I saw that. I never used the beta version so I never got a chance to get used to them being in the title bar. I like the tabs below, near where the action is. I just noticed that the URL fades out as it disappears below the RSS badge. And the Stop/Reload button is now also in the address bar. And there's a new tab button ("+") in the tab bar. I usually just press Apple-T, so to me it's wasted space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 Tab close widgets only appear when the mouse is over the tab. Interesting. Makes it seem a little cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barracuda Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Okay, my overall impression of Safari 4 is positive. The improvements are like touching up the blemishes of an already good product. They didn't mess with what was good, but it definitely seems snappier, which I'm glad to see since I usually have lots of windows and tabs open. The interface is very minimalist, but most of what I need is in the right place. I'm still getting used to seeing the "Top Sites" page though. And there's a new tab button ("+") in the tab bar. I usually just press Apple-T, so to me it's wasted space.I just noticed that you can also double click the blank space to the left of the "+" to open a new tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 The orange back arrow that you used to be able to click to return to your Google results if the link you chose wasn't good is gone.When you have more tabs than will fit in the tab bar, the expanded list down the side now has the off-bar tabs shaded to indicate they're not clickable from the main bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barracuda Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 The orange back arrow that you used to be able to click to return to your Google results if the link you chose wasn't good is gone.That was SnapBack, one of the most heavily touted features in Safari when that version was released. I'm surprised it's no longer in the address box. It will appear in the Google search box after you delve into a search. That's not much help when accessing a web site directly though. I liked the old placement better. The only alternative I can find is to click and hold the back button to skip back several pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 I don't like the new placement of the stop/reload button. It's all the way on the other side of the window from the other navigation buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 Looks like Snapback is still there after all. I thought it was missing, but I was actually opening my search results in tabs. Oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmer Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Well, I've been happily using Safari 4 beta, but Safari 4 final is broken for me. The bookmarks bar is gone, the scroll bars are gone, and windows are way too wide with a big blank area on the left and center, and all the content on the far right, out of sight, with no way to scroll to it. Thank goodness for Firefox. Top Sites is badly distorted and again, most of them are hidden. This is independent of screen resolution settings.I've found a workaround. I've been using 800 x 600 screen resolution. If I go to a higher resolution when opening a new window, it will display correctly and then I can go back to 800 x 600. It's fine on my iMac G5 with the much higher resolution screen. Looks like Apple broke 800 x 600 support in Safari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 I've found a workaround. I've been using 800 x 600 screen resolution. If I go to a higher resolution when opening a new window, it will display correctly and then I can go back to 800 x 600. It's fine on my iMac G5 with the much higher resolution screen. Looks like Apple broke 800 x 600 support in Safari.I wonder if it's Safari, or 10.5.7. I just checked the resolution widget in the title bar, and 800x600 is no longer an option. For some reason I only have 640x480, 1280x1024, and 1920x1200 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmer Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I wonder if it's Safari, or 10.5.7. I just checked the resolution widget in the title bar, and 800x600 is no longer an option. For some reason I only have 640x480, 1280x1024, and 1920x1200 now.Hmmm, interesting. I'm using 10.4.11, though. I corresponded with a guy on the Apple discussion forums who was pretty bent because he has a clamshell iBook which only supports 800 x 600, so he can't use this workaround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Touch Screen friendly rumor? I see it as a possibility for a tablet function too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted June 19, 2009 Author Share Posted June 19, 2009 You couldn't even post a snap of your own Safari page, you had to steal one from Gawker? Lame. Real men know how to Grab. And since I know Puma will be curious... here's a legend: (HAIF sister sites are linked) 1.1 HAIF server status 1.2 Facebook 1.3 Glass Steel and Stone 1.4 HAIF administrator functions 1.5 Artefaqs database administration 1.6 http://www.Towrs.com 2.1 Twitter 2.2 Valueclick Media 2.3 The Chicago Architecture Blog 2.4 I Can Has Cheezburger 2.5 HAIF 2.6 Chicago Architecture Info 3.1 My credit card processor 3.2 Peapod (online grocery store) 3.3 Blogger 3.4 Pair Networks 3.5 Slashdot 4.1 PayPal 4.2 Me.com 4.3 American Airlines 4.4 Invision Services 4.5 London Architecture .co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I will post a screen grab. But y'all with make fun of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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