North Texas Tops 6 Million

[Gary]

2112,

My man, seriously, you really have to stop taking this stuff so hard or personel. You really need to understand the mindset of people in order to understand why some people can be so hostile to certain places. EVERYONE tears down another city when it appears to be on the uptick (and you'd be (not you but anyone) an idiot not to see that Houston is a city on the uptick). You don't move to a craphole for any reason, including to work, if you have better options, and if you don't have better options, then where you're moving to isn't a craphole by definition.

What are you going to do, run around bragging about your current locale and you can't support your own ass? No. You're going to go where the action is. I don't give a holy damn how beautiful geographically speaking San Francisco is, I'm not going to pay that amount of money for less home and more aggravation. Period. You don't impress me that much.

This puffery, this chest pounding that people do, it's meaningless. The average person will enjoy life in Houston the same as they would anywhere else. And the rich play by their own rules here just like they would anywhere else. The rest of this blabbering is to stroke one's own ego. Nothing more. It's just that play words, catch phrase and pop terms abound and when it catches, you role with it.

The average person knows diddly poo about Houston except what they've been trained to believe by people with an agenda. Shrug it off. You have no idea how ignorant the average person is about most things, especially geography, and their hostile comments prove it.

People are also snooty to the point where they become blinded by their own self-created crap. It's not important what some twit somewhere else thinks about Houston if they're not bringing anything to the table. Go to any US city in this country and their issues are Houston's issues, some of it more so, some if it less so. Just because some fly-by-night urban snobs have suddenly fallen in love with walking everywhere and shunnnig cars/freeways/etc or homes with yards, you're going to let them dictate every one of your tastes? You're going to let them make you feel insecure/uncomfortable about what makes you comfortable? I would hope not. It's not that big of a deal. Popularity contests are what rule high schools, not mature adult life.

So take it easy and don't worry about it. You can't be all things to all people all the time. And, to quote Robin Williams in Death To Smoochy, in a world of neanderthals and rapists, I wear the f*****' badge of honor.

I'm going to grab a diet Dr. Pepper, jump on the rail, take the 65 Bissonnet on over to Rice Village and have me a nice little evening with the ladyfriend. As far as I'm concerned, I'm in paradise. Those that disagree can suck their thumbs.

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Man that was a great post and so true!! I'm not hoping the rail but I'll be at my favorite little hang out in the Village tonight to.

2112 I hear exactly what your saying to. I always heard terrible things about Houston then when I got here (late 90's) I was floored by how cool this town really is. I have found myself becoming defensive and I'm not even a native. Fortunately I can tell you that at least among the musicians world that old view point is changing.

[Gary]

Sarcasm or do you mean that? Sorry, can't tell.

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I meant it. I think it makes for more civic pride, maybe I'm wrong. Every person I've talked to here that's a native all get angry about this subject. I didn't understand it at first but after a while I finally understood why Houstonians are so defensive about this city.

Man this is a great town and people need to know about it. I've actually got a friend who is in the beginning stages of writing a book entitled "Houston's firsts". It identifies everything Houston did first in the country like the Astrodome, first man on the moon etc. When I read some of the beginning transcript I was very impressed by all the things this city did before anybody. It's pretty cool.

[tamtagon]

Please no slander comparisons b/w metro areas whether it be Houston, San Antonio..etc.  This is just informative, respond respectively.  Thanks

N. Texas population tops 6M

Moderators can we close this thread.

Thanks.

Slfunk

Everytime one of these threads turns into a vitrual dual, I'm reminded of John Trovolta in Urban Cowboy, when he says, "Sissy, I'm prideful."

[rantanamo]

Once again, a repeated Wow on this thread. All of this not on the level, and can't possibly be. Wow.

[HOUCAJUN]

. . .and you think that's a good thing for Houston?  That's Houston's problem.  It's too spread out.  That is one of the reasons its population numbers are high.  It just keeps acquiring land.  Geographically, Houston doesn't know where it wants to end. I know because I used to live in Houston for over 10 years during the 70's and 80's (Love Ya Blue) and a couple in the 90's.  Also, unlike your sporadic visits to Dallas (5 times a year), I travel between Houston and Dallas at least every other week (was there on Tuesday 2-15 and will be there again for three days starting on Sunday 2-20).

Houston needs to centralize more of its development inside the inner loop (610) as opposed to the sprawl that it is experiencing.  If Dallas, or New York for that matter, annexed all of the surrounding areas/suburbs until those cities had the same amount of square miles as Houston, then their populations would soar far past their current numbers.  Bottom line is, Houston's population numbers are directly tied to its geographic size.  Unlike geographically smaller cities, but with larger populations (New York, Chicago), Houston will never have that urban feel because it is just too damn spread out and hardley any of its communities are connected (except for those along the new rail line).

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70's? How old are you anyway? Aren't you the one i swipe all the time on 45 for going 25mph in the fast lane? yep, it is you. Shouldn't you be getting your bed pan changed,right about now.

[Gary]

. . .and you think that's a good thing for Houston?  That's Houston's problem.  It's too spread out.  That is one of the reasons its population numbers are high.  It just keeps acquiring land.  Geographically, Houston doesn't know where it wants to end. I know because I used to live in Houston for over 10 years during the 70's and 80's (Love Ya Blue) and a couple in the 90's.  Also, unlike your sporadic visits to Dallas (5 times a year), I travel between Houston and Dallas at least every other week (was there on Tuesday 2-15 and will be there again for three days starting on Sunday 2-20).

Houston needs to centralize more of its development inside the inner loop (610) as opposed to the sprawl that it is experiencing.  If Dallas, or New York for that matter, annexed all of the surrounding areas/suburbs until those cities had the same amount of square miles as Houston, then their populations would soar far past their current numbers.  Bottom line is, Houston's population numbers are directly tied to its geographic size.  Unlike geographically smaller cities, but with larger populations (New York, Chicago), Houston will never have that urban feel because it is just too damn spread out and hardley any of its communities are connected (except for those along the new rail line).

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"I lived in Houston during the 70's & 80's". Wow that's great but a lot has changed since then.

"Houston needs to centralize more of it's development inside the inner loop 610" Are you kidding? Obviously you haven't a clue as to the current development of the inside loop. Need I remind you that inside the loop at leat 50 low rise & midrises have gone up in the last couple of years (not sure of the number). We also blow doors on high rise residential living inside the loop and if you include Uptown, well enough said there.

"Houston will never have that urban feel because it's just to damn spread out"

This statement is silly and proves ignorance. Pay attention to the area in question.

Can I finish in saying that I am not anti Dallas, I'm just defending Houston from the ignorance I hear. That's not meant to be mean spirited but it's painfully obvious that some including you don't know about the city.

[Subdude]

This discusssion just sounds like a bunch of bickering, random comments, and the old Houston vs. Dallas business.

Closed.