ksteenson Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Does anyone know how to track changes in local schools' demographics from year to year?I know that the Houston Chronicle has a yearly special insert on schools that does this for each area school for that particular year, but I can't find any online archival information for previous years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfootball Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Best site out there for this sort of thing:http://www.schooldigger.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Does anyone know how to track changes in local schools' demographics from year to year?I know that the Houston Chronicle has a yearly special insert on schools that does this for each area school for that particular year, but I can't find any online archival information for previous years.Ah, changing demographics commonly occur in older suburbs (for instance, Spring ISD). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbcu Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 to save you time....anytime a suburban area borders a somewhat "urban" area...the suburban area will change as the residents of the "urban" area acquire the means to move out there....EXAMPLESFBISD borders HISD (has changed)Aldine ISD borders HISD (has changed)Spring ISD borders HISD (has changed)Humble ISD borders North Forest ISD and Aldine ISD (has changed)Spring Branch borders Alief ISD & HISD (has changed)Alief ISD borders HISD (has changed)HISd borders Galena Park ISD (has changed)HISD borders Pearland ISD (change will occur towards the northern end first)It may take some time but Klein ISD is the next to change as eventually Spring ISD will overflow...the bottom half of Klein ISD is minority due to odd zoning but the area bordering 1960 will ultimately begin to switch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Actually:* Spring ISD borders Aldine ISD* None of Spring Branch ISD touches Alief ISD, but a bit of HISD is between Alief ISD and Spring Branch ISD. HOWEVER, the part of SBISD that changed is the northern portion bordering northwest HISD, NOT the southern portion close to Alief ISD.Now, with some of them:* All of Aldine ISD changed* The eastern portion of Fort Bend ISD has changed* Spring ISD: More or less Westfield HS has changed - Spring HS hasn't completely changed yet* Humble ISD: Humble HS is changing, while Atascocita HS, Kingwood HS, and Kingwood Park HS (just opened) haven't changed yet* Spring Branch ISD: Northbrook HS and Spring Woods HS changed, while Memorial HS and Stratford HS did not change* Galena Park ISD: All of the schools are changing, with Galena Park HS changing to a higher degree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbcu Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I have a friend who coaches at Spring High feeder middle school....he sees the change coming for Spring...the West Side of FBISD is heavily minrority close to the HISD/Alief area..all the Mission whatever schools and Bush High are the same demographics...bottom line, the "money" areas will fight to keep certain areas the same but ultimately, it'll happen..why even waste time running away because you got to interact with folks one day in life.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchful Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Does anyone know how to track changes in local schools' demographics from year to year?I know that the Houston Chronicle has a yearly special insert on schools that does this for each area school for that particular year, but I can't find any online archival information for previous years.Back in the pre-Internet days, I ordered a copy of the state of Texas school demographics. I still have the copy - it has all campuses in the state - it was around 1988 or so, I believe. It is very interesting to see how things have changed in 20 years. If you need a stat for a few campuses I can probably look 'em up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAK Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 define "change"define "demographics"good luck with all of that. look at the city. all of the "demographics" are going to "change". It's an endless pursuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfootball Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) Billions on Homeland Security for big brother to keep his eye on all of us (in the name of Al Quaida)...meanwhile the Border is STILL wide open. Legislators and the media like to use this ridiculous 12 million number when they talk about how many illegal immigrants are living here (it's more like 20-30 million). No wonder our demographics have changed so dramatically in the past 20 years. Edited June 12, 2007 by mrfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbcu Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 to sum it up...whites live in an area, blacks follow, whites move, blacks dominate for a short time, hispanics then move in droves to the now black area, blacks then move back with the whites, whites then move again...basically, that's the story of Loop 610 to the Woodlands....Jeff Davis, Northline, etc. were white, blacks then moved in and now Aldine ISD is the white district, blacks get rezoned there from Acres Home and eventually move into the area, whites then move out to Spring while hispanics are closely making their way up I-45Aldine ISD and HISD are now predominately hispanic and Spring ISD is now majority black as blacks have made their way up 1960 which leads to growth in Klein ISD and The Woodlands for whites.With public transportation non-existant way out there past 1960 now..don't know when the next shift will occur but they are developing the other side of Conroe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 1. As of the last count, Spring ISD was plurality African-American. SISD is not majority Black as 39% is less than 50%. SISD has 33% Hispanic, 23% White, 5% Asian, and <1% Native American: http://www.greatschools.net/cgi-bin/tx/district_profile/955Aldine ISD is majority Hispanic: 61% Hispanic, 32% African-American, 5% White, 2% Asian, <1% Native American: http://www.greatschools.net/cgi-bin/tx/district_profile/83Houston ISD is majority Hispanic: 58% Hispanic, 30% African-American, 9% White, 3% Asian, and <1% Native American: http://www.greatschools.net/cgi-bin/tx/district_profile/499Klein ISD is plurality White: 49% White, 27% Hispanic, 15% African-American, 8% Asian, and <1% Native American: http://www.greatschools.net/cgi-bin/tx/district_profile/561to sum it up...whites live in an area, blacks follow, whites move, blacks dominate for a short time, hispanics then move in droves to the now black area, blacks then move back with the whites, whites then move again...basically, that's the story of Loop 610 to the Woodlands....Jeff Davis, Northline, etc. were white, blacks then moved in and now Aldine ISD is the white district, blacks get rezoned there from Acres Home and eventually move into the area, whites then move out to Spring while hispanics are closely making their way up I-45Aldine ISD and HISD are now predominately hispanic and Spring ISD is now majority black as blacks have made their way up 1960 which leads to growth in Klein ISD and The Woodlands for whites.With public transportation non-existant way out there past 1960 now..don't know when the next shift will occur but they are developing the other side of Conroe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millennica Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 to sum it up...whites live in an area, blacks follow, whites move, blacks dominate for a short time, hispanics then move in droves to the now black area, blacks then move back with the whites, whites then move again...basically, that's the story of Loop 610 to the Woodlands....Jeff Davis, Northline, etc. were white, blacks then moved in and now Aldine ISD is the white district, blacks get rezoned there from Acres Home and eventually move into the area, whites then move out to Spring while hispanics are closely making their way up I-45I second that. This process occurs all over the US. Both my father and father-in-law worked for the post office and they both used to tell (laughing as they told the story) how they and other African Americans would ask their white co-workers where they lived. My father and father-in-law agreed that once Black folks found where the white folks lived, it was only a matter time before they would be moving out to those neighborhoods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I second that. This process occurs all over the US. Both my father and father-in-law worked for the post office and they both used to tell (laughing as they told the story) how they and other African Americans would ask their white co-workers where they lived. My father and father-in-law agreed that once Black folks found where the white folks lived, it was only a matter time before they would be moving out to those neighborhoods.LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Speaking of changing demographics, this article about Galveston ISD states that the population of Hispanics is increasing while the population of African-Americans is declining: http://blogs.galvnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=aacab3c3ce24f0d1Upon checking district demographics, I found that La Marque ISD is majority African-American. I wonder if many of the African-Americans from Galveston are moving to La Marque.La Marque High School: http://www.schooldigger.com/go/TX/schools/...941/school.aspxBall High School (Galveston): http://www.schooldigger.com/go/TX/schools/...996/school.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbcu Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 that's how are alot of us are....instead of helping to develop an area and make it work for you, we like to run and brag on moving to an "exclusive area"....that's why Houston is what it is now because people don't stay put..with all this growth people are forgetting your leaving alot of stuff behindtoo many times I had folks I knew brag on moving to "Sugar Land" in the 90s.....me being inquisitive, I ask 'where at' since there are alot of areas in Sugar Land where the homes are smaller than homes right off 610....usually the conversation quickly changes...In 20 years, what will be the "new" Highway 6, 1960? How far can you build from downtown literally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 that's how are alot of us are....instead of helping to develop an area and make it work for you, we like to run and brag on moving to an "exclusive area"....that's why Houston is what it is now because people don't stay put..with all this growth people are forgetting your leaving alot of stuff behindtoo many times I had folks I knew brag on moving to "Sugar Land" in the 90s.....me being inquisitive, I ask 'where at' since there are alot of areas in Sugar Land where the homes are smaller than homes right off 610....usually the conversation quickly changes...In 20 years, what will be the "new" Highway 6, 1960? How far can you build from downtown literally?Doesn't Highway 6 turn into FM 1960? I see all sides as having the same issues with suburbanization.By the way, HBCU, study Galveston's suburbanization. The middle class is fleeing Galveston due to higher prices, while the rich and the vacationers are moving in. This means that Texas City and League City are growing due to suburbanization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 In 20 years, what will be the "new" Highway 6, 1960? How far can you build from downtown literally?depends how well the freeways are maintained. since businesses aren't centralized, this is another reason it is possible to live far out but yet be close to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureAuteur Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 There will eventually come a point where white movement will slow down. The whites that are moving out to Magnolia, Conroe, and Montgomery are probably looking at the final frontier. This will be where all the baby boomers eventually settle for retirement, while their children and whites in their 30s and 40s will re-populate downtown and the inner city. It's inevitable that whites will move when blacks and hispanics start moving in. It's not that they dislike these people, but rather the cultural differences are too vast, and they'd rather not deal with all the social and institutional merging of cultures. Whites, especially those of central European descent are very clannish and like to be around their own kind. It's interesting what's going on with the growth in Magnolia, Montgomery, Conroe, Willis, The Woodlands, and Panorama Village. This is very similar to what's going on in Los Angeles. All the whites in the San Fernando Valley (which could be compared to Spring, Cypress, Klein, 1960 area) are beginning to discover Ventura County and Kearne County, so some parts of the valley are now starting to go downhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 (edited) All the whites in the San Fernando Valley (which could be compared to Spring, Cypress, Klein, 1960 area) are beginning to discover Ventura County and Kearne County, so some parts of the valley are now starting to go downhill.The county name is spelled "Kern County."Also, I checked the populations of the zoned high schools in the San Fernando Valley. Many of the schools are already majority Hispanic. The populations here do not include magnets, I believe...Of all of the schools, only one, El Camino Real, has a White majority (53.2%) - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8617As for other San Fernando Valley and Crescenta Valley comprehensive high schools in LAUSD:(Many get kids bussed from other parts of LA due to severely overcrowded schools)Majority Hispanic:* San Fernando - 97.8% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8843* Arleta - 93.4% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8609* Sylmar - 92.3% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8878* Polytechnic - 91.4% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8636* Panorama - 87.5% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8610* Monroe - 87.2% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8768* Van Nuys - 84.6% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8893* East Valley - 83.8% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8607* Canoga Park - 80% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8571* North Hollywood - 79% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8786* Reseda - 76.8% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8814* Birmingham - 72.6% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8557* Kennedy - 72.1% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8725* Cleveland - 68.7% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8590* Grant - 62.7% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8683* Verdugo Hills - 51.9% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8914Plurality Hispanic:* Chatsworth - 47.3% Hispanic - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8583Plurality White:* Granada Hills - 38.1% White - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8681* Taft - 39.1% White - http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccg...&which=8880 Edited June 15, 2007 by VicMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbcu Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I never knew of a "middle class" Galveston....I knew most of the brothas stayed in the projects or surrounding areas and the whites stayed in the big homes and the middle area was beach homes to me...As blacks became educated eventually you would see a northern migration to outlying areas as in most cases in Houston where most blacks settle in nicer areas that are pretty close to where they came from...Back in the 70s, the Missouri City/Hiram Clarke area was populated by kids who grew up in Third Ward or so but went to college and had the resources to move...Alot of folks who grew up in Acres Homes are now outside the Beltway in Spring now....5th Ward = North Shore and North Forest area is HumbleIf Magolia and other areas change, what happens then? The little country paradise my family grew up in becomes populated?Highway 6 and 1960 intersect and looks like a half-loop but technically aren't the same as 6 continues along 290 then breaks off to College Station while 1960 goes to Dayton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 HBCU, here are some enlightening articles about the gentrification and suburbanization of Galveston and the closing of schools:Articles by the Galveston County Daily News (You can get an account for free to view the entire story):* http://blogs.galvnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=aacab3c3ce24f0d1 - Demographer: Expect big enrollment drops* http://news.galvestondailynews.com/story.l...18DA9gKx3BA20C2 - Parents: GISD set on closing Scott Elementary (NOTE: GISD did NOT close Scott ES, but instead closed Alamo ES)* http://news.galvestondailynews.com/story.l...32f17fded3732a4 - New charter school to enroll students in 2007 (Yep, that's in Galveston)* http://news.galvestondailynews.com/story.l...ecba57d52dda271 - Forces Drive People off IslandArticles by the Houston Chronicle (If you get an account for free, you may view the entire story)* http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive....id=2007_4345932 - Filing disputes school closings in GalvestonI never knew of a "middle class" Galveston....I knew most of the brothas stayed in the projects or surrounding areas and the whites stayed in the big homes and the middle area was beach homes to me...As blacks became educated eventually you would see a northern migration to outlying areas as in most cases in Houston where most blacks settle in nicer areas that are pretty close to where they came from...Back in the 70s, the Missouri City/Hiram Clarke area was populated by kids who grew up in Third Ward or so but went to college and had the resources to move...Alot of folks who grew up in Acres Homes are now outside the Beltway in Spring now....5th Ward = North Shore and North Forest area is HumbleIf Magolia and other areas change, what happens then? The little country paradise my family grew up in becomes populated?Highway 6 and 1960 intersect and looks like a half-loop but technically aren't the same as 6 continues along 290 then breaks off to College Station while 1960 goes to Dayton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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