torvald

since the downtown post office has been under renovation i had not

been to the library. so i went to my local branch in montrose. i arrived

15 minutes early and within 5 minutes there were abut 6 homeless fellas

lining up in front of the door. when the branch opened they filed into the

men's room and during the next half hour emerged --- some with wet hair

and one with a fresh gallon container of water. a few switched out their

items from their old plastic bags with new library bags (for books) and left.

i know they have set up recent ordinances as far as cleanliness and

behaviorin libraries, some aimed at keeping the locations from being a

destinationsimilar to covenant house (which is nearby and free). i would

feel less odd ifthey also used the library and were cleaning up in preparation

to look at books or use the computer.

in fairness, i suppose the only way it really affected me was not wanting to

usethe restroom there and getting the creeps when one fella with random

parts of his head shaved kept checking me out.

I think I'll need to take some pics to remember it by...

saw the "for sale" sign covered by a texas asbestos removal sign...

is this a clue if the building is going for a revamp or demolition?

(did a search and couldn't find another current thread.)

i guess i have a little faith that they would choose targets like a bus stop or street light control box instead.

sadly, from experience, i don't.

they'll tag those things but they also tag old buildings,

murals (like the one at mary's), the red ball finials on

the new 59 bridges, shop windows, the menil sculptures...

just look at the sears building on allen parkway.

also:

Taggin is all about fame. Like when NEXT won the houston press award for best Houston tagger his fame level shot up. Or when "REBS" and "RITE" got on the news for taggin all the freeway signs and causin 10s of thousands of dollars worth of damage, their fame level shot up. And if you remember what rebs tag looked like, you'll see you don't need a lot of skill to get a lot of fame. Taggin is about gettin your piece on a 150 foot tall billboard. . .

Do they ever have problems at the Cullen Sculpture Garden? I'd hope people have a little respect.

there is night security at the cullen sculpture garden. i have

seen some of the sculptures near the menil tagged... forgive

me , i don't know what they're called... the geometric ones

in the park there.

plus, tagging is all about disrespect and public damage. you

can reference some of the graffiti threads on this forum.

according to the plat on his website, it appears to be going outside.

then i wonder how long before it is tagged?

i think the only thing saving the current sculpture is that it is surrounded by water.

If I'm understanding this correctly, it will be installed inside of the chapel. Wonder how they'll shoehorn it in there?

i may be totally out of line but i think the chapel is fine how it is.

i've been going there for years. the one thing that is very moving

for me is that the meditative space remains the same as everything

else outside of it changes.

if installed inside i'm not sure how they could still have weddings

and funerals there.

Sorry I'm "worrying" about it. My mistake, I thought this was an architecutural forum and I was positing in a thread that was discussing archietecture. I apologize for my misunderstanding.

i don't think that was said towards you fella...

your comments are welcome, of course.

i have somewhat recently walked beneath the viaduct - i always found it interesting and sad...

the ghpa has some information on its update page, too: http://ghpa.org/update/

the latest update on that page is upsetting!

so much for the good brick award.

quite a gamble shutting down the river cafe...

my original thread is gone but it was concerning

the montrose rumor that he was building it to

fund horror films... he does like things of that

nature.

Does anyone know how pre-construction sales are going on this project?

i ride by this a few times daily on my bicycle. i have never seen anyone inside

(pitching the project with those fancy visual aids in there). i do see graffiti being

painted over in a timely manner though.

Sorry about that. I'll make sure that doesn't happen again. Too many beers that day.

Is that your webpage? There is some great photography there. I'll talk to the webmaster just in case.

yes, you apologized to the "webmaster" there - thanks. problem is, it happened again!

and as far as search engines, that is what they are there for - for people to find and learn about things they are seeking. i don't know where watermark editing comes into play there...

i second that. i am sorry if i offended anyone in using the word

"copyright". i should have just said "watermark" and i think i listed

earlier why her images are watermarked. i wasn't trying to portray

for a moment that she has "all this registered at the US Copyright

office". i was just saying that it was sad for her to spend the time

and money on bandwidth (and finding/paying for the items) so that

other people can link to those specific images to easily/cheaply

augment their own web pages or ebay auctions. it's been an issue

in the past.

i think she started her site as a resume but also so people with similar

interests could learn more about the things she enjoyed and share

information. naive as it is, that has only happened a few times. i've

tried to tell her to shelve it but she's stubborn.

the largest actual "copyright" issue was with a band using her photos

for their site. after she notified them of the bandwidth/usage issue,

they just copied it to photobucket, cropped out the watermark and

kept going. another was someone using an original postcard collage

on their CD sleeve. she would have given them the rights for free

with a simple listing somewhere in the text, if they had just taken one

minute to ask.

i suppose i became annoyed for two reasons, that this was the second

time this specific person presented an uncredited, watermark removed

image and that it was a specific item that i gave as a gift to someone

being presented back to me --- it was a little odd, i guess.

I"m just saying that just because you own one, doesn't mean you own the copyright.

i agree. i just think that some of the images there would not be

available on-line without them being on that page (like the rice

washcloths). when someone has gone through the trouble

to hunt for and share these things, the fair thing would be to give

credit for where the images were found. that's all.

i'm not saying she owns the copyrights to the master copies. there

are plenty of original photos of other things there. i realize there is

a difference between that and the arch-ive.org example of borrowing

from earlier.

some of the cards themselves look copywrited.

basically the items are things that she has bought at estate sales,

on-line, antique mall postcard bins, etc. without the copyright

over them, bandwidth was being lost due to people using the images

on their own webpages or when they would sell a similar postcard or

item on ebay. she only asks that the person e-mail and she sends

them a copy without the watermark. it is only that she owns the

current items, some of which are rare... some of which she paid

a bit much for (sorry) or were given to her by friends.

as her copyright says, the items are in her possession and were,

found, bought or given to her. she doesn't claim to have taken the

photos on the postcards or make the items herself. all of those items

are on a shelf in her study. i'm not sure what else to say.

Download this and see if it has what you're looking for. After a quick check, I didn't see anything about the Capitol Room. I'm sure it existed, but maybe it was renamed by the 1970s.

after looking at the photos on the postcard and this brochure,

maybe they did mean the FLAG room after all. the article says

the seating used for the pub came the room in question and they

seem to be similar:

photo used with permission

Download this and see if it has what you're looking for. After a quick check, I didn't see anything about the Capitol Room. I'm sure it existed, but maybe it was renamed by the 1970s.

that is absolutely amazing

and makes up for my irritation above. :closedeyes:

you are awesome.

Hope ya like it! Not sure on the year, but I'm betting 1960's-1970's.

Bonus:

you hope i like what?

now fella. i appreciate you not using my friend's bandwidth, yet i fault

you for using her images. the sugar packets are still watermarked with

her site's name. she buys stuff on e-bay to put on her rice hotel page.

i don't know why but it makes her happy, she thinks it's fun.

when i mention on HAIF about having to hear about that hotel all the time,

it's her that i am referring to. i basically asked the question here, as her

and i were wondering about the capitol club question.

now that i inquired on HAIF, you're posting her images. although it's from

your photobucket site they are her original images, you didn't even change

the file names. although you removed her watermark (it's most obvious to

the right of the chandelier), and some other flaws on the flag room postcard,

some still remain, as you can see it is the same exact card:

i actually gave her this postcard so i am right pissed that you've used it.

there is a copyright statement at the bottom of the page you took it

from as well: here

didn't you do this previously with some arch-ive.org photos? using the photo,

not listing credit and cropping out that person's watermark? people invest

their time and effort to share these things with other people, perhaps you

should ask for permission and give proper credit when using things which

don't belong to you.

how irritating!

i wonder if any of the bob bailey photos are of the capitol room...some photos do not include detailed information:

http://www.cah.utexas.edu/db/dmr/dmr_resul...ed&folder=9

of course, the capitol room might not have been around then, either

it was in reference to this article: here

of course, by re-reading the article, i see that i was mistaken. it refers to

a "capitol club" not a "capitol room" within the hotel. so was this a club or bar

or was this in a more well known room of the hotel?

i had something that i had always assumed was from the flag room and

when i saw the article i felt like i may be mistaken yet could not find

anything concerning a "capitol club".

any rice postcards or items i have do not mention a capitol room.

while i'm at it, can anyone recommend any books on the rice hotel?

perhaps, i just need to take the time and visit the texas library.

?

hello HAIF folks!

i am looking for a pre-rice-lofts photo of the rice hotel's capitol room...

i mostly find them of the flag room.

can you assist? thanks!

Photo by Chad Greene

Tearing it down

Galveston Island

they do clean it up but yea the graffiti on the store front just past st thomas has yet to be cleaned. its been there since 2004.

the bum traffic through the area is awesome because of the covenant house down the way on yoakum and hawthorne. st thomas as I have experienced does not really have that much of vagrancy problems because of ust's security force. although, this statuary is at the corner of montrose and alabama hopefully it will remain unscathed.

unfortunately, it is different graffiti, yet has been constant since 2004.

i just made the connection that the monument will be

at the same corner as the bum pee corner i mentioned.

unfortunately w. alabama has a huge graffiti problem. i ride my

bike to work in the morning and see them around dawn. residents

are very good about removing it but it has gotten much worse over

the past year. i live within a few blocks of this location.

as far as the pool being a public urinal. i can totally see it. there is

more general foot traffic near this location then near the rothko

sculpture pool. the most popular place i have either seen or smelled

bum pee while riding by is behind the metro stop at montrose and w.

alabama, on the st. thomas side.

i have seen a patrol car twice in the past week driving down w.

alabama with their graffiti task force light. they shined it on me as

i was riding by at 6am. i nearly fell off, as i could not see!

other than that the other unusual things on my w. alabama ride in

the past two months... tire tracks along the yards across from the

alabama ice house. the alabama ice house having a CD skipping

on their speakers at 5 in the morning, the two of the large planter

pots outside cierra broken in two with the plant strewn about and

the large marble table in front of the mortuary broken into half and

in pieces...

i can already imagine it getting tagged quite a bit...

i wondered this too: here

but when asking i wanted to know WHY. who got to originally

pick the names? is there a directory somewhere? i thought

about making a old apartment/building name directory for

houston at the time i asked but... no one seemed as interested

in it as me.

looks like the original query is missing though...

looks like i typed over it as a reply somehow.

i was new to HAIF then!

YES!!!!

But my entry is "Surface Lot Replacement Park", or "NAMBLA".

oh NO!

now anyone googling NAMBLA will get HAIF now...

a quick HAIF search says this thread is the only mention.

Roy Hofheinz Park, maybe?

frankly, there needs to be more things in houston to honor him...

but i guess if it's filled with homeless folks from other parts of

downtown, as some of you suggest, then maybe not the new

park.