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the name was changed to One Bayou Park and the project changed back to a "boutique hotel" in late 2001. The name changed again to the Theater Hotel, but no work has been done to it since they changed their minds on its use, and i doubt a hotel is a good idea now with the new huge one on the south side of downtown. as an aside, the domain onebayoupark.com was listed as the company's development site, but it isn't up anymore and network solutions has it for sale again. the yellow pages list a Theater Hotel at 110 Bagby, (713) 223-0909, but it just goes to voicemail and no one ever returns the messages. Googling the number shows, strangely, that it belongs to a Japanese restaurant called Azuma, as well as a company called Downtown Bayou Corp, and a One Bayou Park but with an address in Rosenburg, TX...

713 To 214... I moved the opposite of you. I moved from 75226 to 77057. I lived in the Adam Hat Lofts in Deep Ellum.

Hmmm.... well if you don't care... then don't post :-) And since the 2003 population stats are an ESTIMATE in which Dallas and San Antonio are only seperated by 6,400 people, I'd say its still up in the air as to which is the larger.

I also find it funny that the few people who hate Dallas on here seem to find the most obscure, pointless facts to demean Dallas with. Lets do a comparison of important facts about both Dallas, (DFW) and Houston. First off, I'd like to note that I found all of the DFW facts on the Dallas Chamber website in an easy to use table format. I found the Dallas Chamber site from simply typing "dallas statistics" in Google and clicking on the first link on the search page. Houston's Chamber did not show up at all with a "houston statistics" search and I had to do a specific one for "houston chamber" to even find their website. Additionally, once there, the information is in PDF format (bleh) and is hard to navigate. Some data on both sites were from different years, so for comparison I used various government and industry publications with the same dates. ------------------------------------------------- Population (U.S. Census) City Houston #4 1,953,631 Dallas #8 1,188,530 Metropolitan Areas Houston #10 4,669,571 (Houston, Galveston, Brazoria) Dallas #9 5,221,801 (Dallas, Ft. Worth) ------------------------------------------------- Unemployment (Bureau of Labor Statistics) Houston 5.7 (November) Dallas 5.6 (November) Over the past year, Dallas' unemployment rate never went above 5.8 while Houston's hit 7.0 in June 04 ------------------------------------------------- Wage (Bureau of Labor Statistics) Houston $41,534 (not including sales) Dallas $42,031 (not including sales) ------------------------------------------------ % Below Poverty Level -- Families (Bureau of Labor Statistics) Houston 16% Dallas 14.9% ------------------------------------------------- Median Housing Price (Real Estate Journal) Houston $139,400 Dallas $179,875 ------------------------------------------------ Apt Rent (Real Estate Journal) 2 br/2 bth 950 sq ft. Houston $686 Dallas $799 ------------------------------------------------ School District Ratings (Texas Education Agency) Houston Academically Acceptable Dallas Academically Acceptable ------------------------------------------------- Fortune 500 Companies (County) Houston 18 Dallas 20 ------------------------------------------------- Mean Travel Time to Work (U.S. Census) Houston 27.4 Dallas 27.5 ------------------------------------------------- Crime Statistics (Federal Bureau of Investigation Crime Reports) Houston Crime Index 149247 Murders 256 Rapes 892 Robberies 11212 Assault 12598 Burglaries 26905 Larceny 73445 Vehicle Theft 23939 Arson 1696 -- Houston's crime level is worse than the national average in every category. Dallas Crime Index 112040 Murders 196 Rapes 656 Robberies 8041 Assault 8125 Burglaries 20351 Larceny 56306 Vehicle Theft 18365 Arson 1567 -- Dallas' crime level is worse than the national average in every category. I think the statistics speak for themselves. Dallas has less crime and higher income. I lived in Dallas for over 5 years, and in a suburb of it almost all of my life. Hardly ever did I hear a resident of Dallas pulling the "my city is better than your city" crap toward Houston. When I moved to Houston over a year ago, the first question I heard was "Which do I like better, Dallas or Houston?" To this day, almost 18 months later, I still get it. We should get over our inferiority complex. Maybe if people would look at what Dallas is doing right and try to do it better, we'd have more success than just saying people who like Dallas better than Houston are dumb, snotty or have dallitude.

The DFW rename thing, however childish, is probably a good idea. I (with two others) formed the Howard Dean for President DFW organization back a year ago and the biggest hurdle I faced wasn't raising money or getting people to events -- it was petty Ft. Worth people bitching because they wanted a campaign autonomous from the Dallas group.

That's cute and all... quoting the dictionary. But then a few years ago a faggot was just a bunch of wood according to M-W. I feel most people here know what is meant when someone says "urban". Boston, Chicago.... cities that are pedestrian friendly where amenities are accessible via something other than a miniature schoolbus with leather interior.

I live in Garden Oaks, and its pretty walkable. Its a strange area, actually. N. Shepherd and Ella (which are the major N/S thoroughfares) are GHETTO, but the residential areas in between are all fairly nice, and there's a lot of development going on. I don't particularly think any place that favors traffic over pedestrians is going to become "urban", and every "street" in uptown is like a 10 lane highway. The first time I visited Houston I decided to walk around the area. The sidewalks are all unlevel and dangerous, and half the crosswalk signs either don't ever change or face the wrong direction. Running the metrorail to the stadium was the worst idea in the world. Sure, it runs by the museums and the park, but how many people that live downtown or by the stadium ACTUALLY go to the MFA more than once or twice a year? It should have gone from downtown, through uptown, and out west & northwest to suburbia. That would have decreased auto traffic and increased foot traffic. Speaking of which, Uptown is aka the Harris County Improvement District #1. Does anyone know how to get something like this? I did some research and it seems that the Garden Oaks/Oak Forest area isn't covered by one, but there is one to the West (Near Northwest Management District) and I BELIEVE to the East (Greater Greenspoint Management District of Harris County). They are special "subsections" of the State of Texas and require certain revenues and things, but who is responsible for setting them up, and can you still create them or were they just one time developments?

I have actually been in Jones Hall. The interiors are nice, but the building itself is not. Same goes for the Wortham Center. Its a box... plain and simple. The interiors are ok, but those giant sculpture things by the escalators are definately not my taste. Its a bit like saying the interiors of the new justice center may be exquisite... even though the structure looks a bit like half a tampon. And what IS the deal with the lights at night? Houston's skyline is much nicer than Dallas', but at night there's no comparison that Dallas' looks better. Why the hell don't they light anything?

Hmmm.... well, first off, I'd like disagree with the whole NASA Space Center/Disney thing being bad. Yes, before it was free, it was authentic, and it was stately and proper. It was also boring and unprofitable. You speak of profit motives. If its not making a profit, then its losing money. And if its a government run facility, that means its loosing MY money. Even if the project breaks even EVERY YEAR, it still will never have the money for capital improvements or renovations. Which is why that rocket's laying on its side out in front of NASA in the rain instead of standing upright in a climate controlled environment. Anytime the goverment attempts to do something it usually ends up underdelivered and overpriced.

no, its johnny quest, from "the real adventures of johnny quest". oh... and the church seating information is found HERE

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ha... well yes, in today's world, liberal has become synonymous with democrat. i agree danax, some houston industries would be hard hit if the plethora of illegality were suddenly unavailable. but if an illegal mexican immigrant can afford to support 3 kids, a wife, and still send money home to the rest of his family, then pray tell, how is it that a single man with no debt cannot do the same? personally, i feel that, like respect, you must earn the right to demand. it kind of reminds me of Chevy Chases' brother in law on N.L.'s Christmas Vacation. they're all holding out for management jobs.

personally i think a homeless shelter is the worst idea in the world. the most trashy, ghetto, crime-ridden parts of Houston, or for that matter, any metro area, are the ones with homeless shelters and food pantries. its not because the charities get better rent there, it is because the clientelle that the places attract. being homeless is a mindset and just plain laziness. i've often thought it was ironic that, with houston having such a large hispanic population, there are still more white and black homeless than any other race. why is that? because they've come to expect things to be given to them instead of working. why work when you can get food and clothes for free? when someone pisses in their clothes because its easier than getting up off the ground, they don't deserve charity -- they deserve an all expense paid trip to Army boot camp. oh, and i'm a democrat.

I'm actually glad that the competition winner by Murphy/Jahn didn't win. It looks too much like Taipei 101

Its also the tallest church in the world. The total height with cross is 158 m, the dome is 60 m high, its diameter (at the base) 90 m.

ha... i think you must be talking to OTHER people on here.... ;-)

houstonsemipro -- I brought up The Potter's House (the name) of T.D. Jakes' church. And if you're going to expound terms like "world's largest" and "biggest in the U.S." you should at least know what the competition is. The Potter's House is ONE of the largest churches in the United States, and when the new complex is finished, it WILL be the largest. Additionally, to some other people, Lakewood Church will not be the largest church in the world. The Basilica of Our Lady of Peace in Cote d'Ivoire was constructed in 1989 and has seating for 18,000 parishioners. It was constructed by President Felix Houphouet-Boigny who also moved the capital of the country from Abidjan to his hometown of Yamoussoukro. Boasting of glory does not make glory, and singing in the dark does not dispel fear.

My dream tower would be a thin sliver of a building with 88 floors divided into retail and office space, a W Hotel, and at the top condos, all connected with exterior elevators. The perfect location: the corner of Allan Parkway & Montrose where the old Robinson Warehouse is..... mmm.... makes me drool.

The Potter's House (TD Jakes) has more than one building, each with different seating capacity. They also hold four church services (not including Wednesday Bible Study) a week. As of 2002, they had 28,000 members. Their main seating facility holds 8,200, while others seat 2,500 and 500. The 8,200 seat facility is used for services, the 2,500 seat auditorium is used solely as a concurrent children's church, and the 500 seat chapel is for weddings and small services. The church currently has a 400 acre site under construction which will feature a new auditorium, educational facility, offices, recreational and cultural centers, and retirement homes. TD Jakes has sermons and shows on TBN three times a week and once a week on BET.

since the siena down the street is "tuscan inspired" and the one around the corner from the siena "new orleans style", i think the developer should go for something "mexican pueblo-esque".

I contacted Stan Creech Properties this morning, the property is still under contract with the original developer and they don't think they'll be able to preserve the existing building.... its in a flood plain. It'd be a great location and building for REAL lofts (not the pseudo "hey we tore down a building with great history and style to build a new one that vaguely resembles something with history and style" loft), but at 5 million bucks before any renovation begins, I don't see the financial feasibility. Probably for the best. I think one more 500 unit, themed midrise apartment complex is JUST what Houston needs. Maybe they can squeeze in a CVS or a strip mall too.