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If its only food or fresh water I would have to let it slide if its a tv then its theft .

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I think the point is they both took food, but the whites "found" it while the blacks "looted" it.

I think it is lacking in connivance and cleanness.

Also paying $400 at the pump is very connivant and those fumes are preserving the envrionments cleanness.

Someone is full of themselves, somehow you are better than the poor??? ughhh.

What do we vote if we ride it sometimes already?

EDIT: Oh yeah where are you from and have you ever been on metro busses or rail?

I'm sure The Dome the means to lock people out. But, can they lock people in as well?

I sure hope so.

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As red and nmain said what do you mean by this?? Its not like they are shipping all of the looters to Houston.

I honestly agree with most of the people on this thread, I am from Austin was born here and have lived all my life here but I am discusted at what the city has decided on building.  I have some pictures from back in the mid 80s of what the City hall could have been like but I honestly dont know how to post pictures could soembody please help me.  The pictures are not off a website so Im not sure how to post a picture directly onto here from my computer.

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If they are on your PC just go to a site like www.photobucket.com and create an account. Then you can upload the pics and copy the image tag and link from there and paste it here.

"City officials themselves commandeered equipment from a looted Office Depot. During a state of emergency, authorities have broad powers to take private supplies and buildings for their use."

This isn't what I saw, though they may have been doing it legally, just wasn't shown on TV. I saw a few clips of officers tossing shoes and other items into carts. I doubt this was for the cities use.

Maybe the first poster meant H vs D, but most of this thread has merely been Dallas versus San Antonio. I don't see how this shows we have an inferiority complex.

I don't know if anyone has posted this but here are some of the corporate donations. It does not even include all of them though.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/31/news/fortu...irms_hurricane/

...Abbott, a pharmaceutical and medical products company, has pledged to contribute $4 million, $2 million in cash donations and an initial $2 million in nutritional and medical products to help victims of Hurricane Katrina. Abbott's initial contributions include cases of pediatric and adult nutritional products such as Similac infant formula, PediaSure and Pedialyte nutritional drinks and Ensure and ZonePerfect bars.

Amerada Hess said it would contribute $1 million to the American Red Cross for its disaster relief efforts in responding to Hurricane Katrina. In addition, the company will match individual employee donations to the Red Cross.

American Airlines flew 85,000 pounds of bottled water and nonperishable food items donated by the airline to New Orleans. American also picked up some of its own employees, other airlines' employees and stranded travelers and flew them to Dallas/Fort Worth.

Anheuser-Busch said it shipped 12,600 cases of drinking water for the Red Cross to distribute to victims in affected areas of Louisiana....

WTF??? Hit by Katrina? Seriously how old are you and where do you live because no one who lives even within ten miles of the belt would categorize the entire area as the CBD. My original post was much harsher but I didn't feel it was nice to insult those with certain ummm deficiencies. I really hope this is all a joke or that you are still in middle school or something.

Yes the core is in the belt, but it is not Downtown, there is a huge difference.

See The Astrodome shouldn't have been demolished,it has uses.

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You mean shouldn't be demolished right? It is still here you know.

Complete sentences with no spelling errors, perhaps?

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That pretty much sums it up and more rambling about how a nine street square is a grid.

Seriously how old are you? Just because a 4 (or according to you 9) streets make a box does not mean it is a grid!!

And "Just look at the Galleria, 50 odd years ago yo woldn't have seen the largest tower away from a downtown district in the world." This sentence makes little sense, though I think I know what you are talking about. How is inside the belt the CBD? That is not central it is spread out, not to mention a large percentage is residential not (office) commercial.

While I am sure Bellaire is the place refugees would most like to go I have heard there is some pretty significant crowding. I believe there are some other like yates that can hold 2000 but only have around 500 enroled. I believe it was a few years ago HISD considered selling these schools to be run privately. The communities though didn't want that and HISD moved around 50% of the staff to other campuses.

Being the oldest master planned community, you can see that is failed, crime is everywhere and the mall is a piss poor excuse of a mall.  Many of the other high-rise developements were cancelled after suburban decay took affect.  The ones that remain are not in any better shape.

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What are you talking about? I would not say crime is rampant (do not stereotype Sharpstown by the apartments). What high rises were planned. I am sure there were some, but I bet they were canceled when Houston went bust. The mall isn't that bad, though I may change my tune with Cinnabon gone and Foley's possibly being a Macy's.

700 posts!

Oh, the News Media mentioned it, all right.

They also mentioned that Office Depot is donating $1 million, and that Target is donating $1.5 million. This, despite the fact that their profits are dwarfed by those of Wal-Mart.

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Exactly I am sure there are some private citizens donating more than one million. That is pretty sad for the US's largest company. By the way Shell has donated $2 million to the red cross, and will match up to $1 million given by employees. Not only that, but they are going to continue to pay their employees in the affected areas while they can't work. Plus they are offering a $10,000 interest free loan to employees who were affected by the storm.

Just curious what is your main use for internet? Are you a gamer? Do you use it to link with your works server to work at home? Or do you just browse?

When I was in high school, when someone would say that they knew someone who went to Rice University, other people would automatically say:  "He/she must be smart."

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What are you saying exactly? Most people still have to be very smart to get into rice.

I was wondering would any of you guys be looting if this happened in Houston?

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BTW at least one looter has been shot by police. Just FYI.

I am still curious an I the only one this is happening to? It isn't working in FF or IE. I just find it odd.

^ Of course I wouldn't loot.

Also about the media sensationalism, there was one thing that pissed me off during the Aruba thing. I rarely watch local TV news, but I will sometimes watch for a while till they start doing stupid stories again. Well I turned it on a while back it was at the 10:00 PM show. But the thing that irked me was they spent a good 10 minutes on the Aruba girl (may have been shown again not sure), and then after that no more than 3 seconds were spent saying two teenage boys had been shot and killed in east houston.

I mean how can you spend that much time on one person who has been getting national media coverage for weeks and then practically ignore something more serious in your hometown.

Because these planned places tend to be isolated from the city in their own area. Where you have to take a parkway just to get back to roads. But if a neighborhood was built in a grid it would be easily connected to the city as said city grew around it. And the reason the first pic won't be walkable is simple. I doubt you will know exactly where I am talking about, but take for example the house in the middle top. To go to your neighbors (behind you) you would have to walk west on your street then go south onto what kind of looks like the main artery, then walk along as it kind of curves off, then turn onto the first or second side street off that.

Compare that to a grid where you just walk around the block to see them.

Edit: looking at it from a closer view, that main artery can't access the side street I was talking about. Also I measured the new route and it would be 1.2 miles to see the people who live behind you. Doesn't encourage a walkable urban neighborhood does it? COmpared to around 320 feet for a grid.

I think I am paying around $85 for cable and internet from time warner. I am surprised it took so long for someone to mention how much better cable is than DSL. All Broadband is not created equal. DSL is not a constant speed, not to mention slower usually than cable. The speed fluctuates. Also for DSL the speed decreases the further you are from the source. Compare this to cable which is a constant fast speed.

BTW never try to tell an SBC employee cable is better than DSL. They will bight your head off. I recently learned from experience.

I really want Houston to succeed, but I do not think Philip Johnson would decry zoning.  How is Houston more unique by having suburbs extending 50 miles away and  16 lane highways and traffic all hours of the day because you have to drive everywhere.

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Zoning doesn't stop freeways or sprawl by the way. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but once you get out of the zoning the city cannot have zoning regulations there.

Personally, I can't say I'm exactly for zoning, however I look at the city's number one tourist attraction. It is in the most prestigous shopping area in the region. People literally come from other countries to Houston specifically to shop in this area. It is known across the world. It is Houston's hip stylish beauty mark. And right at the entrance of the 'Rodeo Drive of Texas', is a BIG OL' RED ZONE D' EROTICA SIGN. Folks, despite any argument that anyone makes on how awesome it is to have it there and how it shows how Houston is different from other cities, this is not something to be proud of, and our residents need to begin to understand WHY this sort of thing isn't cool.

With zoning that area would likely be nothing more than a mall, and the original neighborhoods. Zoning would not have allowed 901 foot tall towers to be built in the area. Also regarding signs. Our own no zone downtown has a ban on signs over a certain height. Only a couple government funded or historical buildings have gotten away with having high signage. The other exception is continental and they only were allowed that because they took up a majority of the building and it is only lights.

I know that...

I was saying because of redscare's comment "I never thought I'd feel sorry for a looter."

I was just saying how this was someone trying to feed their family not trying to make a profit off of others misfortunes. How it is different from looters you usually think of.