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I guess I missed s3mh trumpeting this as good governance. 

This is not surprising. s3mh contradicts himself every few pages. Sometimes he does so in the same post. But, scroll back about 4 to 5 pages, and you'll see him bragging about how great the city government in Washington DC is for putting a Walmart in their crappy poor neighborhoods.

Of course you don't get it. I expect nothing more of you.

Not only that, but Walmart's presence in s3mh's idyllic Skyland Town Center is only occurring due to overt threat's to block permits for the 4 Walmart's that the company actually wishes to build.

“They’re interested in developing four stores,” the mayor said in an interview Tuesday. “All of us said, ‘What about a fifth store?’ They hemmed and hawed, and it ultimately came down to — you have a choice. You can do five stores or you can do no stores.”

Wal-Mart does not require major zoning changes or subsidies to open any of its first four stores, but two are on publicly owned land, giving the city a measure of control. Gray indicated he would be willing to go so far as to nix the company’s requests for building permits on privately owned sites, even for neighborhoods where residents favored Wal-Mart’s opening.

“We had five council members and the mayor and the deputy mayor sitting in the room at the meeting....so it was a pretty compelling argument. They have to get building permits, don’t they?” he said.

http://dcist.com/2011/05/gray_to_walmart_build_five_stores_o.php

Recall that s3mh railed against Mayor Parker for pushing through a 380 agreement that supposedly nobody wanted. Well, compare that with DC's threat to deny otherwise valid permits to Walmart if they do not build a store where the mayor wants them to. I am not at all surprised that s3mh trumpets this as "good governance".

I didn't realize that Walmart built on the last available parcel for multifamily. That changes everything!!!

Yeah, looks plenty accessible to me. Just another overreaction by our favorite overreactor.

Don't forget the caliper inches. Can't forget the caliper inches.

here is a rendering of the base from the south east, showing the same recessed grooves on the south face of the tower as well. maybe they will implement some lighting in the grooves?

It doesn't look so much like a recessed groove as it does an offset. There may be an offset on the other side that matches this one.

The rendering in post #257 gives a better view of the offset. Look at the top of the building. It looks like one side goes inward, and the other overlaps it.

No, because to do it properly, the victim isn't hanged until death, just until almost dead, thus prolonging the entire ordeal.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged,_drawn_and_quartered

Well, I stand corrected, then.

Ross, you are wrong. Walmart has its place...in low income minority neighborhoods, apparently.

Oh, and isn't hanging AND drawing and quartering a bit of overkill, so to speak?

You seem to have left him speechless.

Oh, it gets even better! Suburbs! He uses Dallas suburban planning to shame us on inner city Houston!

Dude, stop! My sides are splitting!         

HaHa! Now, you're going to try to shame us that Dallas does better? Go look at all of the threads about Dallas' 30% downtown vacancy, empty Victory highrises, and empty ground floor retail that Dallas city planning forced developers to add to their projects. Then get back to us.    

No amount of restating your point in different ways will make an intelligent statement out of your hypocritical stance. For me to debate you is to suggest that there may be merit to your posts. There is not. The fact remains that you are a hypocrite in your stance. The nicest thing that can be said is that you believe that SOME Walmarts have value...for poor Black people.

Well, Leonard, you just need to read s3mh's posts a little closer. After you do, he assures us we will wish the City had upped the ante $64 million or so, in order to get more retail and apartments.

I am confident that, for another $64 million, we could have gotten everything that DC got. Would that have made s3mh happy? What about Leonard?

You never made much sense in your arguments. Now, you've gone full retard. Never go full retard.

Yeah, like I said, it was a steal at $6 million!

Our $6 million 380 agreement looks like an absolute bargain! It appears that mixed use and pedestrian friendliness is a bit more expensive than the elitists would have us believe.

So? You must be new to the large development watching game.

This is the same guy that busted a vein over not putting ground floor retail in a proposed apartment complex on Yale, claiming it could make the street a walkable area. Now, he guarantees that no one will walk 3 blocks up Yale to a Walmart or any other store.

Dude is priceless. He opens his mouth, and legions of words march out looking for an idea, and upon finding one, promptly trample it to death.

Or you can live in your fantasy world where economic choices people make in a consumer market place are all ethically neutral and the only value in a transaction is whether you can get the lowest price. Also, you do not have to be wealthy to make socially conscious consumer decisions. I know plenty of people who spend significantly more on food, clothes, etc. in order to buy organic, fair trade, independent, locally owned, etc. They just spend less on other things (cable TV, vacations, cars, consumer electronics, etc.).

Heh heh. I wonder which of these is really the fantasy world, looking for the best price, or thinking that paying more for your crap actually means anything in the real world?

The new office building is nowhere even close to the Walmart development. 

If "nowhere even close" means the same as "walking distance", then I agree.

This obsession with shopping by some people is just amazing. But, it is not just any shopping. No, this materialism must be of a certain style and pattern, lest it be bad materialism. So, Shopping at Walmart = bad materialism. Shopping at "boutique stores" = good materialism. In other words, if you spend enough money, and put enough thought into it, your materialism magically changes from bad to good. So, buying Folgers coffee is bad materialism, but buying fair trade coffee at twice the price is good materialism. That only wealthy people would appear to afford the needlessly expensive latter coffee is perished.

The developers are not getting burned by the HD ordinance. They know how to play the game. Additionally, they are not attached to the house. If the HAHC says change something, they have no problem doing so. They are just going to sell the house, not live in it. The problems arise with individuals who are invested in redoing their home to suit their tastes and needs. When HAHC tells these individuals to change something, it can be a huge deal. Of course, to those people who are architecturally ignorant, HAHC telling them to change something is no problem. I suppose that is why some people are not offended by HAHC's capriciousness. 

i'm not one for animal cruelty... but its fun to watch them continually beat this imagined dead horse.

True. I shouldn't admit that I am trolling these two...but I'm trolling these two. They are the gift that keeps on giving.

The 1st ward industrial will gradually give way to commercial/retail/residential. However, it will be a slow and piecemeal process. There are a lot of inustrial facilities in that area that are not going anywhere any time soon.

Who wants a master planned development inside the loop anyway? We have plenty of suburban developments if that is your wish. You are rather schizophrenic in your wishes. You bash developers, then turn right around and pine for them. You express disdain for corporate chains, then turn around and praise them as good for the inner loop. Have you not a consistent bone in your body?