Dieseldrvr
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The Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo owns that land, they bought it in parcels over time going back many years. The full lot borders Reed, Almeda, and West Airport roads. The contestants lot is there, where many of the rodeo cowboys park their rigs and have their horses, the Carnival employees live in a lot over there in their rigs and have their equipment ready. The paved portion of the lot is the large Reed Rd park and ride operated by HLSR, it's a great way to get to and from the rodeo because you bypass alot of the traffic. There's also a committee there called Breeders Greeters who stages livestock exhibitors before sending them over to the Reliant livestock gates. They have had alot of work done out there to make this a great area for the Shows use.
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I always remember celebrity watching. Either my parents would drop us off, or we would ride our bikes, depending on the weather, to the Galleria with our stack of baseball cards. We would wait all around the entrance to the Westin Galleria, and would get autographs from every player we could identify. I don't know if the teams all still stay there or not, but all the teams playing the Astro's would stay there and we would all sit around with pockets of sharpies, waiting for autographs. Oh, and sneaking up too the health club to smoke on the patio and look in the windows on the track to the ice rink. And snagging some food from the meeting rooms in the hotel when you didn't bring enough money to last you past the arcade and candy store.
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No, in the end, they are saving their revenue's, one of which is a non profit who provides far more than any hotel would provide to Houston. They are looking out for their LEGAL contracts which are thankfully protected by law, not just the whims of people wanting to give away county owned land.
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Would wholeheartedly agree with you, Americanized Italian. And in a city like Houston with such amazing Italian selections and heritage, it's hard to stomach half done Italian food, same goes for Romano's and Olive Garden. Stick with the good ones, usually non chains, though Carrabba's seems to have done it very well.
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I would somewhat agree with you, although I thought it was very good. Luckily Houston is blessed to have a large number of great Italian restaurants and grills. But hopefully this restaurant will be reborn in some capacity, because the staff and the food and the Happy Hours were great.
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This is indeed sad, this is one of the best restaurants in Houston over the years it's been there. They never should have changed the name, but the food has not suffered over time, truly a Houston gem, hopefully they can find a way to relocate it.
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I'd say more like he's forcing anyone who comes forward with an idea to make sure they deal honestly and fairly with the Texans and Rodeo who are the major tenants to whom the County has contractual obligations.
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2 months a year since 1966 I think, by far the parks largest tenant of it's time. What does that have to do with adding convention space to the site for the county's use, at no cost to them? Instead of a hotel which would lease away county land for 50+ years?
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That's the beauty of the Dome redevelopment by the Rodeo, it would be developed into a facility that could be dictated by the county to be used for whatever purpose they want to make money, concerts, sporting events, conventions, shows, whatever. The hotel is the only proposal so far dictating the entire use of the facility, so you are against the hotel then? As you could with an event centered redevelopment, and it would be owned by the County.
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What are you talking about? No currently used facility sit's empty for the rest of the year, please explain?
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Hmm, 2,000,000 people spending that kind of money is a lot if they're spending it at the hotel over 20 days not to go to HLSR fund. 3000 over the time period in question, 20 days, is not nearly as much, considering the vast amount of the money they will spend would be at the hotel, not Rodeo, since we're debating whether Rodeo would lose money, core to the issue. The fact is it violates the lease agreements.
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I agree, way off target, I apologize if I have come off sounding rude at times, but there is too much misinformation. The argument IS simple, the fact is there would be many dollars spent at the Hotel, directly impacting the Rodeo and possibly the Texans, no dispute there, unless you say no money will be spent at the hotel? Nice fantasy. Hotel provides: 3000 maybe, Rodeo provides 100,000 per day, big difference in who provides the concession spenders, and a new hotel with what they are proposing would certainly get many of those dollars that the Rodeo brings in. And fact is that the ARC proposal directly violated the lease agreements and contracts, so it's their fault for not doing due diligence to make sure their plan was feasible, no one elses. And the idea that the redevelopment into a County owned event facility is only serving HLSR simply isn't true, how does the Arena currently only serve the rodeo? The Houston Comet's would beg to differ with you, as it's their new home, as it is to many concerts and other events, so how is that only serving one group?
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If you are so against the entire facility that the County owns, why are you not saying tear it all down? The 350 million wasn't provided by you, it was paid for mostly by Texans, HLSR, and hotel taxes, so you provided some tax breaks for building it? Wow, I'm sure you've more than made that up by revenue generated, not to mention the economic impact and extra taxes for having all the facilities they either built themselves or helped bring about and paid partially for. So there you go, remember that next time you say you want or use county facilities in the same breath you say you are complaining about the debt they cause, you're counteracting your own point.
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Where did I say sue, I would say the County would have to offer up this at minimum in order to get HLSR to agree to waive it's legal lease terms in order to let this hotel be built. Why would they give up millions in revenue to it's charity on a project they feel hurts the site as a whole and doesn't best represent the citizens? That would be a fiscally stupid idea, certainly not in the best interests of the charity recipients. And again, the Rodeo helped build that stadium for YOU, and provided that roof so you are comfortable while you watch events in the stadium THEY helped build. Do you go to OTC, ever been to a car show, or ANY event prior to the Center being built??? THEY ARE THE REASON YOU WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. Hmm, I guess they have given you quite a bit huh?
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Do you dispute these facts? Do you also dispute that the Rodeo supported and paid for construction overrun's and costs, as I understand is more than 50 million dollars to make your Reliant Stadium that you watch the Texans in, and other events, but don't quote me on that, I'm not anyone involved with that deal. But numerous articles I have seen refer to the investment the rodeo had to make in order to bring the NFL to Houston and build the facility.