Thanks Geoff, I agree on the cheating/not cheating aspect. The plumber is a company in our area. After the fact, find out from neighbors, they are not that great, but then it is too late. Here's the scenario: neighbor's 80lb. dog runs under our house banging and jumping on/over/through pipes...one pipe springs a big leak. Yes, it is old galvanized 1/2" pipe. Yes, it is old, so a break is not too surprising. Turn off water, call plumbing company close by. They show up, two hours later tell us what's wrong and boss says "$400 - $500, certainly less than $1k." Come home next day to $800 bill....paid it, I can deal with that--sometimes things show up as you work. That same night, pipe leaks/breaks, call plumber...told "another pipe" broke....bill for "coupler and labor" $300, paid it too (what else can you do?). Two days later, the same pipe breaks either at the same place the repairs were made, or very close from what I can observe without crawling completely to the leak under a very low house. Another call; yesterday come home from work to a $400 bill, and they finally cut out and replaced 10' of pipe that I cannot find an obvious leak in (but personally have not pressure tested). Now I am up to $1500 for a job he quoted at $500ish. I think they should have fixed it right the first (or 2nd) try. And should not have charged yesterday for the work that could/should have been done earlier. The workers looked very ashamed yesterday morning...they knew that did not do a good job on the 2nd and 2nd try, but hopefully the job is finally completed and done professionally. Thoughts/comments are welcome... * edit: I'm not so much griping about the cost (but it is a lot of money to me) but the fact that a "pro" was hired based on a need and a quote given, then having to continue to pay every few days to fix / repair things that could/should have been repaired right the first time. I feel like I am paying to repair his repairs, if that makes sense. Now, if we can find a company to lift the house....<smile>.