CampLogan1917

I'm hoping to get some help with photos and stories concerning the "Mutiny of 1917". I can't do it myself! I don't have the knowledge, resources or know how to do this myself. So, please help with this project. I have so little information about the aftermath of the "Mutiny......" specifically, the courts-martial, sentencing and executions and/or prison sentences. I hope some of you will step up. Thank you, ahead of time. CampLogan1917

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The book cover of, "Houston: The Unknown City 1836-1946" by Marguerite Johnston, Copyright 1991, by Texas A7M University Press. Excepts from Chapter Thirty-Six titled, "Mutiny", pgs. 200-2004 to follow. I guess I figured it out! Maybe!! CampLogan1917

Whew! It took me awhile to figure out how to add more photos to my posts but with the generous help from Karick42 I'm ready to go again and make some additions in the form of postings of photos of interest. Thank you, Karick42. Well, here goes we'll see what I learned! What this is supposed to be is the cover of a book titled, "Houston: The Unknown City 1836-1946" by Marguerite Johnston, Copyright 1991, by Texas A7M University Press. Along with excepts from Chapter Thirty-Six titled, "Mutiny", pgs. 200-2004. By the way this is a very good book about the entire history of the City of Houston from 1836 through 1946. I need to find out if she wrote a book covering 1946 to the present! CampLogan1917

I was doing some research on a place in Houston called the Camp Logan Sandwich Shop that use to be on W. Dallas near downtown that does no longer seem to be in business. I did a Google search on "Camp Logan Sandwich Shop" and this article in the New York Times what some would consider the venerable "old" New York Times was the 1st thing that popped up. I read the article but it wasn't really about the Camp Logan "Mutiny of 1917" It was a story about the two black men that went on trial for beating the white truck driver during the "Rodney King Riots" in Los Angeles in 1993. There was a slight reference to the Camp Logan Sandwich Shop with even a slighter reference to the Camp Logan "Mutiny of 1917". And, what caused me to include this in this thread is the fact that all the facts that the New ork Times listed about the "Mutiny of 1917" were wrong including even the war that was associated with it. The actual Camp Logan "Mutiny of 1917" happened duing WWI and the New York Times referred to a "WWII race riot". If you want to read the whole opriginal article it is located at: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...mp;pagewanted=1 This is one of the reasons I started this thread because contrary to some of the contributors to this thread the facts in this incident are not generally known. They maybe known by a few but the vast majority do not know the facts and teaching the facts to the younger generations that are coming up is important. I have underlined the pertinent pasages I referred to in the acticle below. Thanks for your indulgence. CampLogan1917 Aftershocks of Verdicts Rumble Across the Nation By PETER APPLEBOME, Published: October 22, 1993 Far from Los Angeles, the verdict reverberated across the United States today, playing out like a Rorschach test of gaping racial divisions. On talk shows and in interviews in several cities, many whites saw a judicial breakdown in the trial of two black men charged with beating a white truck driver at the start of the Los Angeles riots. Some linked it to an outdated and hypocritical national discourse on race that, they said, has turned criminal issues into civil rights ones. "It was a tremendous miscarriage of justice," said Pat Warriner, a 49-year-old businessman who just moved to Atlanta. "If it was white guys beating on a black guy, they would have hung them." Division Among Blacks For blacks, if there was little of the outrage felt by many whites, there seemed to be more division. Many felt that the verdicts returned against Damian M. Williams and Henry K. Watson for attacks on Mr. Denny and other motorists were too light and were as indefensible as the acquittal of the police officers who beat Rodney G. King two and a half years ago in Los Angeles. Others saw a measure of justice in the verdicts that completed a cycle that began with the outrage over the acquittal of the officers on April 29, 1992. "Justice was done," said Gladys House, a black woman who manages the Camp Logan sandwich shop in Houston, which is named for the scene of a World War II Army race riot. "Usually, there is no justice for blacks in this country." What the blacks and whites interviewed agreed on, however, was that the verdicts reflected the fear of riots as much as the evidence introduced in court, and that the torn social fabric in Los Angeles is not much different than it is anywhere else.

I made a lot of money in that building so it's hard to see it in any other light than beautiful! Humble Oil (Exxon/Mobil) Building Welton Beckett and Associates (1963) 800 Bell Ave The 600ft tall, 44-story Humble Oil Building (now Exxon/Mobil) is one of Houston

I'm continuously amazed at the high quality of the research skills so many of the members of this website possess. I went to the link you provided for the "Camp Logan Cemetery" thread, tmariarand there was such good information and the background showed that someone had dug down deeply to find out the facts they shared on that thread. Some of those contributors are going to get a pm from me asking them about some of their techniques and skills in researching information. Thank you for this very informative post, tmariarand, and I'm glad to hear that you support the idea of having all the information possible concerning the "Mutiny of 1917" located in one place. I think that is awesome! My best, CampLogan1917

camplogan17, I'm going to send you a private message that you can pick up by clicking on "My Controls" and then looking for your inbox and when you find it clicking on my message which will say, "CampLogan1917". In there we'll talk about what to do about this problem. Regards, CampLogan1917

camplogan17, I knew somebody out there had some photographs from this incident and if I kept asking somebody would come through. You did BIG time. Thank you for all the good information and the 1st photo. This topic was the reason I finally registered to do postings on this great site. I had been monitoring this website for sometime now but finally I had to start asking the questions to do what I have said in earlier posts which is to get as much information about the "Mutiny of 1917" with the terrible tragedy was. I look forward to additional post by you of other information and photos. And, thank you very much for your contribution of information and photos. With regards, CampLogan1917

Thanks to tmariar, plumber2, Clio and all the others so for your contributions to this thread. It's important to me that this topic gets the attention necessary so that as much background, history and photos be gathered in one place for other people to read long after this time we're living in. The motivation was my niece was trying to write a school paper on this topic and was having a hard time gathering info and pictures for her story. So, I got on the internet and did some search and found information and especially photos to be lacking on this topic. Now, there are a number of people that seem knowledgeable about the "Mutiny of 1917" which is all well and good but all of us are not as fortunate to have all the knowledge they have. So, that's why people like my niece and I are asking for help from people just like that that have lots of knowledge about something we don't have as much knowledge about. Thanks for listening. CampLogan1917

Yes, Kevin Johnson, I am looking for photos of anything surrounding the "Mutiny of 1917". I have found any photos of this incident to be very scarce. One of the members on this thread said that they even saw photos of the actual hanging after the Courts Martial which are of interest to me from a historical perspective. So, if you have any photos of interest on this topic I would appreciate you posting them on this thread or contacting me by private correspondence. Thank you, CampLogan1917 Thank you, D.J., for the additional information concerning the Buffalo Soldiers National Museum here in Houston as well as the possibility of a DVD. Regards, CampLogan1917

Nice article, misplaced txgirl, thanks for posting it on this thread. I'm going to get in touch with the reporter that wrote that article and ask him if he has any photos related to this story. But, I know there are good posters on this site that will help. Here's a link to the Camp Logan neighborhood community with a little bit of history about Camp Logan under "About". I'm still trying to track down a photo of the Camp Logan Historical Marker but no luck so far. This is the reason I have started this thread because it is so hard to find info and photos of this incident. As always, CampLogan1917

Anything you can post or send to me would be greatly appreciated, misplaced txgirl or Lynda, and I would really like to see that article from the Brenham Banner Press in August 2004. I have never seen any photos related to this story and I have read many things about it. I know that many of the mutineers were hung but I have never even hears that their were photos available. As gruesome as they must be I would like to see them for their historical value. I read a book titled "The Houston Riot of 1917: A Night of Violence" by Robert V. Haines back in 2004. I had a devil of time finding a copy to read. I could find a used one anywhere i.e. Amazon, Barnes & Noble or any of the other book search outfits. Finally, the only way I could get a copy to read was through the inter-library loaning service offered through the Houston Library and the only place they could get a copy was through the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, Michigan. One of my motivations for this topic is that there is so little information about this incident on the internet. So, if we get lots of good information on this thread people will be able to do their Google searches and get some good information about the Camp Logan Mutiny or Riot of 1917 from the Houston Architecture Information Forum. What a good thing that would be!

Thanks for the tip and information Wernicke. Do you still happen to have that 8th Grade paper on the Camp Logan Riots? That would be a great thing to see on this site if you didn't mind posting it. I think it would be a really good thing to see how a 13 year old thought about such an important event in the history of Houston. Here's a little something I picked up that might be a staring place and of interest: About Camp Logan From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Camp Logan was a World War I-era army training camp in Houston, Texas. The site of the camp is now primarily occupied by Memorial Park where it borders the Crestwood neighborhood, near Memorial Elementary School, although a few chunks of concrete, many building foundations, as well as extensive training and midden trenches in the heavily-forested park are all that remain. Many of the cuts through the park are where some of Camp Logan's roads went. One stretch of a Camp Logan road remains in original condition, that being the shell surfaced service road to the golf course. A historical marker in the park across the street from the school commemorates the camp, and the 1917 riot that occurred there. The Camp Logan Riot broke out following recurring police mistreatment of the black soldiers of the Third Battalion, Twenty-fourth United States Infantry stationed at the camp. The soldiers took guns and marched on downtown, killing police and innocent people along the way. In recent years, Camp Logan refers to the neighborhood tucked in to the northeast corner of Memorial Park, bordered by Westcott and Arnot streets, north of Memorial Elementary School.

There is an incident that happened in Houston, Texas at an Army Camp called Camp Logan which is now the site of Memorial Park and a residential neighborhood. This incident has forever after been referred to as the "Mutiny of 1917" and at the heart of it was Houston's Jim Crow laws of the times. I have no judgment about what happened, who was involved and what its outcome was. My interest is to tell the story with the help of so many intelligent, well informed and resourceful people on this site that are as good at researching all topics "Houston" as any university research group and I feel sure we will come up with all the facts. My motivation for starting this thread is that when I started doing research on this topic and incident it was very hard for me to find information and photographs surrounding this important piece of Houston history. I have still not located any photographs related to this topic. So, I hope many of you fine contributors on this great website will help me flesh out the facts of the "Mutiny of 1917" and come up with some pertinent photographs. Sincerely, CampLogan1917

The photo from the San Jacinto Monument Observation Deck is truly magnificent, isuredid!