PureTexan

Lovett will not negotiate price. They will not negotiate their one-sided contract either. If you have a realtor that you are familiar with, you should approach Lovett with a realtor as an agent. In this case, the realty arm of Lovett will split their 6% "commission" on the sale with the agent representing you in the sale. This keeps 3% of the deal out of Lovett's pocket and in someone elses. 3% is significant on a home purchase.

This thread must be commended for the vivid imaginations of its contributors. This is sounding repititious but my interest in this topic is based on my personal financial loss, and my frustration with the unscrupled company (Lovett) that caused that loss. That seems to be a difficult concept to understand. Does it not seem possible that one could be unhappy enough with poor quality, unnecessary expense, and no customer consciousness? The book appears to be a good one, nonetheless. Very imaginative! Thanks for the tip! However, there is another book on Amazon that is more appropriate in this case, as it deals with my situation. The book is entitled "Byte Me". It is rather humerous. Here is a quote from the blerb: "Show your enemies that when revenge is computer-generated, the mouse is mightier than the rat!" http://www.amazon.ca/Byte-Me-Haydukes-Comp...TF8&s=books

Yes, I probably paid more than I had to to put in a decent toilet, but I did not want to do it myself, because I travel a lot and find myself short on time for these things any more. I called the most reputable plumbing contractor in town - Village Plumbing. They are more expensive, yes, but they are dependable and clean. Further, they pay their employees a living wage, and they offer a guarantee. And, the toilets flush!! In my opinion you can bring shabby contractors into your house until you move in and change all of the locks - After that you risk them returning to break into your house. If you doubt the figure, call them and ask about the installation charge for a tiolet these days. It is about $145 per unit. Of course, I checked competitors, and Cardinal plumbing wants about the same amount. ARS would be much cheaper, but I have dealt with them before - Never Again. The least expensive TOTO brand toilet Village plumbing sells is about $350 plus installation. There are four toilets. Put your fax number or e-mail address in next time, and I will fax you a copy of the bill. Oh yeah - I did go to HD and Lowes and found some toilets in the price range you quote, but elected not to go this way as I sold my old pickup truck about three years ago - And then there are the stairs... I suppose the $40 toilets that were hauled off are now resting quietly in the Liberty dump. Thanks Lovett!! Please review the posts - It was I who was slandered - I could think of no worse insult than being called a Lovett Employee. I stated facts, and instead of commenting, VicMan tries to turn my legitimate beef into some kind of post-modern Big Brother scheme. The term paranoia comes to mind.

VicMan could not be more wrong My work has nothing at all to do with the construction business in Houston or anywhere else. My postings are here to call attention to the lack of quality and total disregard for customers I have been exposed to - Nothing else. Frankly, I have a lot more important things to do with my time than to make 800 posts to a website, like my detractor, VicMan. Is there somewhere on this site where I can post the invoice from the plumbing company that replaced these toilets? Maybe the credit card receipt? VicMan seems to be pretty protective of Lovett - I wonder why - HMMMMMM Maybe a Lovett employee disguised as an impartial observer . . . ? Be careful, as there is no honor among these types. ::This post has been edited by Editor::

Get ready Lovett homeowners - I did not really suspect that something like this might happen, but we have just been forced to replace ALL of our Lovett installed toilets with toilets that flush. It seems that Lovett, in the words of our plumber, purchased loads of $40 toilets, in order to cut constructioncosts. These toilets clog every time - even with the smallest amount of toilet paper - we have had to purchase one plunger for each toilet, and have spent more time plunging than I would have imagined possible in a new home. What does this say for quality? We checked with several of our unfortunate neighbors (Lovett home dwellers), and several of them have done exactly the same thing. Our replacements cost us nearly $2000! The toilets we replaced are made in China specifically for builders that want to spend the minimum and have something that looks like a toilet - The resemblance ends there. If you do make the mistake of buying a home from Lovett - Look at the brand of the toilet installed - If it is other than American Standard, Kohler, TOTO, or another familar brand, you may now know why you have to keep that plunger by the stool. The after purchase costs keep mounting ...

It is so unfortunate that there are trusting individuals like ourselves that fall prey to the wolves. I am not sure which is worse, dealing with a lawyer or dealing with Frank Liu and Lovett Homes. If I suspected that Lovett Homes was full of liars and scam artists, I would not have dealt with them at all, as I would much prefer not to deal with lawyers at all either. I know there are excellent tradesmen and outstanding builders in Houston, because I have have worked with them on my other houses through the years. Unfortunately, Frank Liu and his company (look quickly as the people in his employ generally do not stay very long) are not honest and forthright in their dealings. I am pleased to see that this thread is still active, as my post is here to try to help others avoid a costly mistake like I did. When prospective buyers look up "Lovett Homes" in a Google search, they will find the flashy Lovett site, this thread on Houston Architecture, and the site called: www.lovetthomes.org - interesting reader for a homebuyer - What goes around comes around. There are those of us who like to help others, and then there are those like Frank Liu, with whom you need to communicate through an attorney. I would suggest an attorney at this point if you want to get anything out of Lovett homes.

I just typed "Lovett Homes" into a Google search, and found that two of the top four results were this forum and the www.lovetthomes. org site. Try it, Dude. Thank god for forums like these that let people share their opinions. It is comforting, if nothing else, to see that other people have had the same experience as we have.

Are we talking about the same site? I went to the site www.lovetthomes.org, but I found nothing racist at all. Exactly what are you referring to? That site seems very factual, and not just some "this builder is bad" garbage. My Lovett house seems to require about three times the maintenance cost as the 40 year old house I moved out of. Most of this "maintenance" is correcting things that were done wrong to start with. These are real problems, and the site is 100% correct about Lovett not giving a darn about any of the problems. I think the site is right on, saying that "Beauty is only skin deep".