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  1. Happy to know the mural will be saved, even if it's out-of-state. Would like to see other parts salvaged, as well. I just loved the design of those grounds. And that light stone.

    For those who're wondering where the mural is going, it will be either the Wyeth-Hurd Museum in Santa Fe New Mexico, or the Hurd La Rinconada Gallery and Guest Ranch in San Patricio New Mexico. The Hurd and Wyeth families control both. Here's a link to the Museum: http://wyethhurd.com/index.html

    Homes at the guest ranch are open to the public for short term rentals. And yes they are pricey. But it's an incredibly beautiful place to spend a few days, or a week, or two or three. http://www.wyethartists.com/guest-homes/guest-homes.htm

  2. From what I understand, both MD Anderson and a museum in New Mexico finally found a donor who is willing to pay to have the mural removed and delivered to the museum in a single piece. Specially trained workers arrived at the building several weeks ago to detach the mural from the ceiling and floor, and encapsulate the entire mural in a gigantic crate that is 20 ft tall and 50 ft wide. The entire front doorway, vestibule, and porte cohere will have to be dismantled to make way for the crate. They will have to go down to the basement to reinforce the floor underneath the lobby to support the load of the crate as it departs the building. A crane will be brought to lift the crate onto a specially commissioned tractor trailer. The trailer will transport the mural to New Mexico with a convoy of bucket trucks to raise any obstructing power lines between here and there. Once the mural has been removed, the demolition of the building will begin immediately.

    Wow. That is going to be one gigantic crate all right. The mural itself is 15 feet by 47 feet, but its size is just part of the problem. You have to remember that the mural wall makes a 90 degree curve around a corner there in the lobby. Removing that entire curved corner in one piece, getting it into the custom designed curved crate, and getting it out of the building is going to be a major feat of careful engineering.

    Now we're getting a clear picture of why this is costing so much, and why it's been so hard to find anyone willing to foot that cost.

    I do hope one or more of the Houston TV stations is following this to get video of this removal.

  3. Word on the street is that October 1 is the goal for the beginning the demolition and conclusion is January 2011. We shall see.

    I retired recently and moved far away from Houston, so I'm not up to speed with the status of the Hurd Mural in the old Prudential Building. The last time I heard anything about it, they couldn't find anyone willing to pay the steep cost of removing the mural and storing it, and they couldn't find an art venue willing to create a space for it.

    Everybody was wringing their hands saying "oh what a artistic shame this is", but no one was willing to do what is needed to save the mural.

    That was the situation as of the first of this year. Has anything changed? Is the mural still doomed?

  4. Wow. Judging from that map, Eden's was an amusement park that took up the entire south side of the 6400 block of Harrisburg, between what was then Baker St on the west to 1st Street on the east.

    Sidebar to the Eden's Amusement Park story:

    I'm fascinated by the fact that a street once named Baker St is now named Hughes St, in the area where Howard Hughes Sr started his oil drilling bit company in the early 1900s.

    Today the company is named Baker-Hughes, and after a little Googling, I learned why.

    Here's what the company's website says:

    In 1907, Reuben C. Baker developed a casing shoe that modernized cable tool drilling. In 1909, Howard R. Hughes, Sr. introduced the first roller cutter bit that dramatically improved the rotary drilling process. Over the ensuing eight decades, Baker International and Hughes Tool Company continued to lead the industry with innovative products in well completions, drilling tools and related services.

    Now we know why that street on the east end was once named Baker.

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  5. Eden's Amusement Park was on Harrisburg and Baker Street. Here is the Sanborn 1917 map for it.

    Wow. Judging from that map, Eden's was an amusement park that took up the entire south side of the 6400 block of Harrisburg, between what was then Baker St on the west to 1st Street on the east. It also extended southward on land that's now crossed by streets that weren't there then. Texas Ave and Capital apparently didn't extend that far into the east end at that time.

    Baker is now Hughes, and 1st is now 65th street. It helps to remember that the town of Harrisburg was an incorporated municipality until sometime in the 1920s, and it had its own names and numbers for its streets.

    The Sanborn Map shows Eden's Amusement Park had most of the usual attractions one finds in amusement parks. It appears it was about the same size of the old Playland Park on South Main, more or less.

    I used to live in the 6700 block of Sherman back in the 50s, just a few blocks away from this site, and I was friendly with some of the older people who had been living there for many years. But, I never heard anything about an amusement park once existing within walking distance of where I lived.

    I'm guessing Eden's Amusement Park probably did well in the prosperous Roaring 20s, but disappeared in the Depression Era 1930s. There's been no trace of it for a long time now.

    It would be interesting to do some serious archeological digging in that area. I bet it would turn up some interesting artifacts from those times.

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  6. In 1917 there was an entry for Bismark Park that reads "see Eden Park" -- I can't find anything about a Bismark Park from prior years (maybe it was just a short-lived name).

    Short-lived indeed.

    In 1917, a lot of German names were short-lived. When the U-S declared war on Germany in 1917, anything and anyone with a German name got very unpopular overnight. German Street through Houston's east end was renamed Canal Street. It appears that a Bismarck Park in that area lost that name, and perhaps became Eden Park. Even though Otto Von Bismarck died in 1898, he was remembered as one of the architects of the German Empire -- the Second Reich -- that started that "Great War", as it was known then.

    All over the country, many people of German extraction changed their names by simply "Anglicizing" them. Braun became Brown. Schmidt became Smith. Stein became Stone. Heinrich became Henry, etc. Even the English Royal family changed their last name from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, because there was so much anti-German sentiment. King George V renounced all the German titles belonging to him and his family and adopted the name of his castle, Windsor. One of George's cousins, Prince Louis of Battenberg, a grandson of Queen Victoria and in line to the throne, changed his family name to Mountbatten. Just a few examples of the anti-German turmoil that was going on in 1917.

    Of course, a lot of people with German names refused to change them, and they had to endure a lot of public and private scorn and discrimination for a few years. They are to be admired, because most of the anti-German feeling dissipated in the Roaring Twenties. The same sort of thing, on a much larger scale, happened to Japanese-Americans during WWII.

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  7. To David Morris Purdie in the thread after this video on his Facebook Page:

    I have no idea who you were seeing and thinking it was a second Kitirik, but there was only ONE Kitirik. Bunny Orsak was the one and only, and when KTRK cancelled her show in 1971 it went away for good, and she was never replaced.

    I grew up with that show too, and have worshipped Bunny as Kitirik from afar since the first day I ever saw her in 1955. I was 12 years old then. 26 years later in 1971, I was a grown man pushing 40, but I teared up a little the day I learned she'd been cancelled. Someone warm and loving had disappeared from Houston TV.

    I'm not denying that you clearly thought the person you saw was another Kitirik, but KTRK never brought the show or the character back.

  8. Sum brief notes on Houston's original Lyceum w/Ms. Julia Ideson as Librarian. First permanent Bldg. was from a grant from Carnegie & located @ N/E corner of McKinney/Travis. Really beautiful old Victorian structure. Source: 1913 City Directory, pg. 1 Directory of Householders. Second (and still standing 2day [HMRC]) is 1926 Julia Ideson Bldg. & immediately 2 the west is the Jessy Jones modern version of a library (fug ugly) looking structure.

    Respectfully Danny Mac,

    Speaking just for myself, please write in plain English. There are still a few people who haven't learned the short-hand language of Text Messaging, and it's hard for me to read your postings.

  9. I didn't use the word "simple" to describe a renovation as office space. Obviously whatever repairs are necessary to maintain the structure's integrity would have to be taken into account. And I do acknowledge the plausibility that this building is beyond repair; I've underwritten a few such project proposals before and determined as much. My concern, really, is that MDACC (and certain other TMC institutions) are placing an irrational premium on land (in terms of Dollars and utility) north of the bayou whereas they might should be more actively exploring numerous options to the south.

    And I didn't intend to imply that you were thinking of a "simple" renovation. I used the word "simple renovation" to make the point that there's a universe of difference between doing a cosmetic renovation, and doing all the work necessary to restore a crumbling building's structural integrity. Clearly, a renovation would cost a helluva lot less than an overhaul, but it's not going to get either one.

    I agree with your concerns over the way MDACC has handled its problems with this old building, and the way it's managed its expansion in and around the TMC. As for "options to the south", isn't that sort of what's going on down at the corner of Fannin and OST? Isn't MDACC doing some building there?

    And for the poster wondering what the new structure that will replace the Prudential Bldg will look like, I think we can safely predict that in architectural style and general appearance, it will look pretty much just like all the other MDACC buildings between Fannin and Braeswood. Those people are nothing if not predictable.

  10. The thing I don't like about the MDACC rationale, though, is that their cost estimates are based upon repurposing the building for a medical use. I'd like to see the cost of renovating and leaving it as office space and having MDACC simply build their facilities in a different location.

    A simple renovation is just cosmetic and easily done, but it won't solve the problem. MDACC Operations VP Bill Daigneau says the foundation is slowly cracking and sinking and this is causing the building's superstructure to pull apart and fall in on itself. There are cracks in ceilings and walls from top to bottom, including the lobby wall with the mural, and they're spreading. MDACC's attitude is that it's beyond saving. He said if they did nothing the building would collapse in a few years.

  11. I'm not in the habit of defending the demolition of an architecturally and historically significant building, but this time I'll make an exception.

    It's just not that great of a building. Its purpose has been served, and the time has come for a mercy killing.For those unfamiliar with the fresco, it's a dreadful period piece of commercial art depicting emboldened young white men wielding blueprints, and contented Negroes picking cotton.

    I don't disagree with your assessment of the building, but I have to ask if we're talking about the same frescoe?

    I've examined the frescoe at MD Anderson up close and in person, and nowhere on it will you find "emboldened young white men wielding blueprints, and contented Negroes picking cotton."

    What you will see is a ranch, with people of various ethnicities spreading their harvested food out for what appears to be a picnic, children playing in the background, and some men of undeterminable ethnicity loading a hay wagon. Not a cotton field anywhere.

    Personally, I think it's an important representation of life in the southwest, as seen through the eyes of an major artist of the 40s and 50s, and Peter Hurd was a major artist and muralist. It's a shame the art world doesn't appear to be interested in preserving it. At least not interested enough to raise the money needed to remove and move the mural somewhere else.

  12. I once gave a proposal to replace the cooling towers and associated piping in the HMB building. The cooling towers are located on the high roof behind big architectural louvers. It was an elaborate plan envolving erecting a hoist over the side of the building. It was apparently too expensive though. I also gave a proposal to convert the public toilets to ADA. I was amazed to find a full chase behind each toilet room that a maintenance man could walk into. You never see this type of space allowed for such things these days. I did get that job. I also gave a proposal to remove the pool equipment and piping. It was behind the employee lockers on the ground floor and basement areas. I must have been too high on that bid though. This was all around 1992 or 1993. MDACC was apparently looking longer term on this building back in those days.

    In a radio interview on KUHF back when all this started in 2008, Bill Daigneau of MDACC said the old building is slowly falling in on itself. There are visible cracks in ceilings and walls from top to bottom, including the lobby and in the mural itself. It's no longer safe for people to be in it, and repairing it would cost more than demolishing and building new. Also, let's face it. It's just a refitted office building that's not suited for what MD Anderson does. They want something built for medical research and hospital care.

    Here's a link to audio and transcript of that story in KUHF's news archives in April of 2008. There also some interesting photos of Peter Hurd painting the mural back in 52.

    http://app1.kuhf.org/houston_public_radio-news-display.php?articles_id=31046

    For those who wonder why removing the mural is so difficult, here's some information about the "fresco" technique of painting.

    "Fresco Painting is one done with earth colors, mixed with distilled water on a specially prepared plaster wall. There are several kinds of mural paintings: Oil paints are used on canvas and the canvas pasted to the wall, and a secco mural, which consists of letting the plaster dry and then painting on the wall tempera color. An example of this is Peter Hurd’s mural in the Prudential Life Insurance Building, Houston, Texas.

    A Fresco Mural is one of the most lasting, the most expensive, and the most difficult types of mural decoration. Few artists will even attempt it. There are frescoes in Pompeii, Italy, which were covered with ashes and lava. After they were uncovered, the colors seemed just as brilliant as they were at the time they were painted. An example of another well-known fresco is the evocation of Genesis by Michelangelo on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel in St. Peter’s in Rome.

    Fresco demands perfection in painting; mastering the art of making a perfect joining of one day’s work to the next is also the fresco painter’s goal. The cutting of the edge of the finished part to provide for the next day’s plastering was done before the painting was finished."

  13. What is the painting made of & how is it attached to the wall that makes it so costly to remove?

    The mural isn't painted "on" the wall. The mural "is" the wall. It's a fresco, which means it was painted on the wall while the plaster was still wet and soft, before it dried and became solid. The paint is mixed with the plaster.

    To save this mural, the entire wall has to be removed in small sections, very carefully, so the sections can be taken out the much smaller doors and put together again somewhere else.

    Making the job even harder, the mural is painted on a corner in the lobby. Over about 40 feet, the mural curves around the corner and makes a 90 degree turn. Removing the mural, moving it, and storing it safely until a permanent home can be found is going to be very expensive. At least half a million dollars, according to those in the know.

    The Hurd Museum in New Mexico has made every effort to find the money, with no success that I've heard of. They also haven't been able to find anybody interested in providing a permanent space for it.

    Even the art world doesn't care much what happens to it. It's not just MD Anderson. They've worked with the Hurd Museum for more than five years on this, with no success. So don't blame MD Anderson.

  14. They don't get returned the first, second or third time, but they will send them back if they can't get anyone to receive them. I know a few times packages have come when our concierge was on a break and FED Ex, or whomever would come back the next day. Usually though there is a set time these delivery companies come so someone is always there. But as for this building, I do not know.

    We all know that Fedex and UPS packages can be dropped off in a nearby office, or at a neighbor's house or apartment, but anything coming in by US Mail MUST be delivered to the addressee or taken back to the Post Office.

    It's a federal crime for US Mail to be delivered or given to anyone but the person to whom it is addressed.

  15. I know I was not very impressed with the pizza then. In my memory it was sort of like one of those Impossible Pie creations using Bisquick that were so popular back then - very thick, biscuit like dough that soaked up the sauce and made for a very doughy pie, but that's just my memory of it after all these years and tons of other bad pizzas.

    We have similar memories of Valian's Brucie. Their pizza really wasn't all that good, but we didn't know that then. That was when "pizza" was new in Houston. It was "different", and we thought it was so good because we had nothing to compare it to. Almost nobody else in town was serving pizza then.

    I think all this nostalgia for Valian's has more to do with our memories of the fun we all had back in the innocent 50s and early 60s. Gathering up a carload or two of friends and going to Valian's for pizza on a Friday or Saturday night was just part of the fun.

  16. yes, 69th was before garcia...that street and wayside originally were two way streets going north and south. sometime in the late 50's or early 60's they made 69th one way going north and wayside one way going south. garcia i believe was a vietnam veteran with lots of medals from the area'

    SSgt Macario Garcia was a highly decorated veteran of World War II. President Truman presented him the Congressional Medal of Honor for conspicuous heroism in a battle in Germany. I think it's highly fitting for a major thoroughfare in Houston's predominantly Hispanic east end to bear his name.

    Here's his story in Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcario_Garcia

  17. Is it really true that names like Al Ray and Don Gordon were named after specific film actors? Notice most of our theaters were either named after the neighborhoods or a person?

    Actually, the AlRay was named for the two guys who bought it in 1960. Al Zarzana and Raymond Boriski. Zarzana died this week, and there was a big story about him in the Chron. He owned several movie houses around town. http://blogs.chron.com/bayoucityhistory/2009/11/obituary_al_zarzana_73_theater_owner_1.html

  18. I remember reading an article in an older magazine somewhere many years ago that prominently featured a photograph of the McCarthy family sitting in front of their house. I believe the article was published around the time of the opening of the Shamrock Hotel. I wish I could remember the name of the magazine, I would love to see the photograph again.

    I remember how upset some people were when the McCarthy mansion was torn down. Another loss for preservationists, at a time when preservation was struggling to be part of the local conversation. Come to think of it, it's still struggling.

    I also recall hearing that a lot of the house's structural fixtures ended up at Bruce Bowen's Architectural Antiques shop on Fannin in midtown. Same story for the old Hobby family house on Main at N. Braeswood.

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  19. I remember seeing it when it came out (I was just a baby). I remember the highlight was when the local news reporter Chris Chandler was punched out. Everyone anticipated that part the most. I believe he was with channel 2 but I could be wrong. Now, after working with drilling companies, I can really appreciate the hard work and danger these men go through and the brainwork (Red Adair) put into figuring out how to successfully fight oilwell blowouts.

    To know Chris Chandler was to love him, he said with thinly disguised sarcasm. Chandler was KPRC TV's weather guy in the mid sixties, until he talked the station manager into giving him a half-hour personality show that would lead up to NBC Nightly News at 5:30.

    Chris Chandler's "personality" was, shall we say, prickly. He was opinionated, which isn't altogether bad, but he was always popping off about local people and issues, saying unkind and insulting things about people in the news. Although I don't remember him being political, he was an early version of present-day TV hosts like Glen Beck and Bill O'Reilly.

    So, with that reputation in mind, here comes John Wayne's movie company to film The Hellfighters in the old oil fields in the Baytown area. Naturally, they hired some local actors and personalities for small roles and Chandler was hired to play an obnoxious local TV reporter. A VERY small role. But watching the way Chandler acted out on the locations you would have thought he was one of the stars.

    He got one of those Hollywood style folding chairs with his name on the back and, even though he was only in a couple of scenes, he spent a lot of time lounging around near the center of the action where the cameras were rolling. I'm told he was always trying to ingratiate himself with the film's real stars, and generally annoying the hell out of the director and production crew.

    When the movie was done, the premier was held in Houston. If you've seen the movie, you know there's a scene where Chandler as the TV reporter gets in Wayne's face at the scene of a well blow-out, and Wayne hauls off and decks him.

    The Houston audience applauded and cheered.

    A side-bar to Chandler's story. When he left the TV weather position to do the daily personality show, KPRC moved his backup weather guy into the full time gig. That was a young KPRC Radio DeeJay named Doug Johnson.

  20. I seem to remember Bunny Orsak and Kitty Borah were the two Kitiriks. There were also two Cadet Dons. I remember the first one, Don Davis. His real name was Don Eisenmann and his son, Ike, had a brief career as an actor. I don't remember the second Cadet Don, as he arrived during my high school years. Question: Did anyone else participate in the morning exercises during the first half of Cadet Don?

    Kitty Borah was never Kitirik. There was one and only one Kitirik, and that was Bunny Orsak.

    Kitty Borah was another KTRK personality who had a business oriented show called Kitty's Corner in the early sixties. Kitty did news features and interviews with people in Houston's business community. She got out of TV in the mid sixties and went to work doing PR for Shell Oil. I believe she retired from Shell back in the late 90s.

    Cadet Don's real name was Al Eisenmann, and he did his the morning kids entire show and the exercise portion all by himself.

    Al wrote a book several years ago. The Divine K-9, about a much loved family dog. You can get it on Amazon dot com.

    Here's what his publisher said about him: From selling newspapers on the streets of Charleston, South Carolina during World War II, to hosting a children's TV show at a Houston TV station, to Hollywood...Al Eisenmann has worked in the entertainment industry as a performer, writer, producer for over fifty years and is now living in Waco, Texas with his wife Holly and their loving pet...Keeper.

    Al's son Ike has had a long career in Hollywood, starting as a child actor in the 70s. He's 47 years old now, and he's still making his living in show business. In fact, he has a role in the current movie Race To Witch Mountain. He plays the sheriff.

  21. I think Town and Country mall closed because of Beltway 8

    That's true. The economy had nothing to do with that. T&C was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Extension of Beltway 8 was what killed it.

    Sakowitz failed because all its very high-end stores were free standing, and because of the popularity and growth of shopping malls, such as the Galleria. The 80s oil bust didn't help and they were all closed by the 90s.

    Let us not forget the Savings and Loan debacle. That had huge impact on Houston's economy at about the same time that oil went south.

  22. As far as I know, there was only one Kitirik the cat, Bunni.

    There was just one Kitirik. Even though her show left the air long ago, Kitirik will always have a special place in my heart.

    Bunny Orsak/Kitirik brought genuine warmth and love for kids to that show. A generation of Houston children remember her as "real", and nothing about her was fake or put-on.

    It's a good thing KTRK didn't try to replace her because it just wouldn't have worked without Bunny in the cat-suit.

    I believe "Witch King" is thinking of Kitty Borah, a former KTRK personality who hosted a weekly business news interview program called "Kitty's Corner" for a while in the 1960s. She got out of TV and went to work in corporate public relations at Shell Oil. I think she retired from Shell in the late 90s.

    Here's a link to a local blogger named Society Spy. She wrote up a big soiree someone threw for Dave Ward's 61st birthday a few years ago, and a number of current and former TV types were in attendance. Complete with pictures of some of them.

    http://www.societyspy.com/archive/05_parts.htm

    You'll find Kitty Borah's name somewhere in there

  23. i am pretty sure the land is owned by the texas medical center now. i hope they keep this an the old prudential building standing and renovate them and not tear them down.

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the old Prudential Bldg is coming down. It's literally falling apart and it's beyond repair. Look for it to be imploded or demolished before the end of this year.

  24. I bought my first house in Houston in 1982. Things were still going pretty well - so well in fact that I had to buy a negative amortization loan with increasing interest rates. (Who said that all these creative mortgages are new?) I keep telling people that we have seen this movie before. I just hope it has the same ending.

    My wife and I returned to Houston in 1988, after ten years in east Texas. That was just before Houston's enonomy started picking up again. By then every neighborhood in the county had foreclosed homes everywhere. By the thousands. We thought we could pick up a foreclosure at a bargain price, but after several weeks of looking at trashed out houses we gave up on that idea.

    So we decided to shop for a new house, even though most name-brand home builders had ratcheted down to almost nothing to get through those times. We were looking in the CyFair ISD, and we finally found a small General Homes area named Sommerall West behind Langham Creek HS that still had some model homes and a sales office.

    We were stunned to learn we could get a new home for less than most of the foreclosures in the same general area, so we bought one. For 68,500 dollars. That was in May of 88. After we picked our 2100 sq. foot floor plan and the empty lot, it took General Homes more than three months to build the house. That was because there were almost NO carpenters or house contractors in Houston at that time. Most had moved on to other cities not as hard hit by the oil bust.

    We finally moved into the house in September of 88 and it proved to be the best investment we ever made. The economy started showing a pulse again around 1990, that little General Homes neighborhood Sommerall West was bought up by Friendswood Development in 1991, and it's now the much bigger Copperfield West Creek Village. We still live there, we paid off the mortgage early 6 years ago, and today it's worth 140K. I hope.

    I think I and Flashman can speak from experience in saying that this too shall pass. If you're able to stay in your house, do so by all means and by any means necessary.

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