FilioScotia

(and by the way, Filio's definition was not incorrect; perhaps incomplete, but not incorrect.)

Thanks for the support, but Houston19514 isn't wrong in this. His information is more complete than mine. I was only trying to define the word "basilica" within its commonly understood Christian context, but the word predates Christianity in Roman culture by many centuries.

Before the Christian era, a basilica was a secular structure of the type Houston pointed out. They were built as public markets, courts, assemblies, etc, and not necessarily for religious events. Not unlike the George R. Brown Convention Center, or Reliant Center.

In the 4th century AD however, as Christianity became the official religion of Rome, Christians took over many public buildings and turned them to their own uses. They especially liked the large basilicas because they were perfect for large religious gatherings, so over many centuries, basilicas came to be identified with the Christian church.

Basilicas aren't the only vestige of ancient Rome that's still around today. Think about local governmental divisions across the Roman Republic and later the Empire. The country was divided into provinces, the equivalent of modern states, and provinces were divided into Dioceses, the equivalent of modern counties.

When the western empire collapsed in the fifth century, and the Church of Rome grew to replace the government that had disappeared, the church appointed Bishops to rule the local dioceses, and the term "diocese" survives today as the word for an area governed by a Bishop.

Baby Ruth is named for Babe Ruth? O'Henry for Aaron? Not.

Surely you're kidding. O'Henry is not named for Henry Aaron. It's named for the popular 19th century newspaper man and short story writer from Austin Texas. whose real name was William Sidney Porter.

And even the makers of Baby Ruth aren't a hundred percent sure where the name Baby Ruth comes from. There are several theories.

The official "company line" is that it was named for former President Grover Cleveland's baby girl, Ruth Cleveland, but that's open to question. Babe Ruth the baseball player hadn't yet become a superstar when the candy bar made its debut. Here's a link to the confusing story and all the theories on Snopes dot Com. http://www.snopes.com/business/names/babyruth.asp

And there's another candy bar named for John Kerry. Nut-Rageous.

How would you define 'basilica'?

The word "basilica" is used to describe the style of architecture that's been used in building churches since ancient times. It refers to form, instead of function. Whereas, the term "cathedral" refers to function instead of form.

Here's what Dictionary dot com says about "basilica." "an early Christian or medieval church of the type built esp. in Italy, characterized by a plan including a nave, two or four side aisles, a semicircular apse, a narthex, and often other features, as a short transept, a number of small semicircular apses terminating the aisles, or an atrium. The interior is characterized by strong horizontality, with little or no attempt at rhythmic accents. All spaces are usually covered with timber roofs or ceilings except for the apse or apses, which are vaulted."

Is this the one you can the chimneys see from the freeway - I45?the chimneys

That's the one. When it was built, it was outside the city with plenty of green open space around it. It was once a beautiful home. Now it's infested with lawyers.

The worst fate of all.

Somewhere John Henry Kirby is weeping. A law firm owns it and uses it for offices. http://www.bgflaw.com/our_offices.html

The word "cathedral".

I realize the term has become a generic word for a very large church, but there's a more precise meaning. "Cathedral" comes from the Latin word "cathedra", which was the official chair or throne of a bishop or Archibishop.

In general use, "cathedral" is the official home church of the diocese, where the Bishop or Archbishop sits and presides, and the word refers to its function, not to its appearance. Unless it's the official church home of the diocese, the church really should not be called a cathedral.

In every diocese, there is just one cathedral, most of the time. Galveston-Houston is one of the exceptions, with two co-cathedrals, one in each city, and a new cathedral now under construction for the Houston end of the arch-diocese.

The Episcopal Diocese of Texas has one cathedral, Christ Church in downtown Houston.

Paramedics working for funeral homes?

Can anybody say "Conflict of Interest?"

Until the early 70s, all ambulance service in Houston was provided by funeral homes and other private ambulance services, whose drivers competed for "hauls" just like wrecker drivers. They would listen to police scanners and race through traffic to get there first and it was scandalous and mercenary beyond belief.

Ambulances owned by some "white" funeral homes wouldn't pick up black victims or even go into black areas. It wasn't unusual for drivers to leave a scene empty when they determined the victim couldn't pay. It was common to see ambulance drivers propping up victims on their gurney so they could write a check. And there were no paramedics. That job didn't exist in this area at that time. Ambulance drivers were just that -- drivers -- with little or no medical training or skills.

All these abuses and more led the City of Houston to create the HFD ambulance division in the early 70s. That effort was spurred and helped along by the popularity of the TV show "Emergency", which showed trained Paramedics and Emergency Medical Technicians using the latest technology to connect with doctors in the ER to treat people at the scene and keep them alive long enough to get to the hospital.

We take that for granted now, but it was very new back then. Nobody in this part of the country had ever seen anything like it, and people started demanding it. Houston City Council got the message and in April of 1971, they created the HFD Ambulance Division, and ordered Paramedic and EMT training for HFD personnel assigned to the ambulances.

To make it work, Council also prohibited private ambulances from responding to emergencies inside the city limits. You can imagine how well that went over. Private haulers kicked and screamed to high heaven, but there had been so many unbelievable abuses that no one felt any sympathy for them.

I should also point out that not all the private ambulance services were bad. Some were conscientious and did the best job they could, but there were enough bad apples to ruin the whole barrel for everybody.

Why do you always stir up trouble? If you haven't noticed, Houston has a lot of Spanish heritage. There are ways to express your opinion without insulting others. Be nice, for goodness sake FilioScotia! This is an educational and productive forum for nice people. Without courtesy to others this cannot work!

Please explain how my posting was insulting? Or discourteous? Or stirring up trouble? The theater in Pasadena was called the "Capitan". Not "El Capitan". It's a small difference to be sure, but it's still different, and that's not an opinion. It's a fact. Look at the sign on the theater. In stating the facts, I made a verbal joke about redundancy, and it's clear that you didn't get it. You seem to be the one who's looking for something to be insulted about.

Nursing home? I know, I know, terrible!! Mental Hospital? Who would want to live in a place that means you are sick in the head? Oh, the shame! Who made up those terms? Those are just awful and downright mean.

You're absolutely right. I wouldn't want to live at either of those places. Do you live in one of those?

LOLLL....With four children, there are times when I think I'm living in a nuthouse, and find myself wishing I could live in a nursing home. I'm ready for the home now.

Well 'orphanage' may not be a derogatory word, but to live in a place called by a word that means, "a place for a bunch of kids who's parents have died", isn't very hopeful at all...

Is it any worse than "nursing home"? Or Mental Hospital? How would you like to live in a place called by words that mean you can't take care of yourself anymore? Come on people. Get a grip.

And by the way..........we ARE in the next century.....why haven't WE, (As The People) given this type of hopeful place a more respectable name? ~global

What's wrong with "orphanage"? I've never regarded the words "orphan" and "orphanage" as derogatory terms, and until the age of Political Correctness, nobody else did either.

"Orphan" is not a slang term or a slur. It's a perfectly respectable word that comes from Greek, and it means "someone who has lost one or both parents through death.

"Orphan" is not a slang term or a slur and it's not pejorative. You seem to think it's disrespectful to call parentless children orphans, and a group home that cares for them as an "orphanage". Why?

Now, if just have to weed out the derogatory old words, why don't you go after the word "daughter". It comes from an old English Saxon term for the female member of the family responsible for milking the cows. Clearly it's a word for a subservient family member.

I knew , but it hasn't been used since the 30's.

Really? I don't know where you got that idea. Try telling that to the Mexicans and Mexican-Americans who will still bust you in the mouth if you call them a greaser. The 50s Anglo generation took the word for their own uses to describe themselves and nobody ever said much about it because it was so clearly NOT an ethnic slur, when it was used that way.

But when it's used as an ethnic insult, Hispanics still get very offended by it. The same way it would offend me for a Hispanic to call me a gringo. Neither one is a compliment.

And I think someone else has already answered your question about "Mac" and "Mc". And I'm glad because I don't know the answer.

I look like a greaser from The Outsiders

Aside from referring to men of the 50s generation with heavily oiled hair, are you aware that the term "greaser" is also an ethnic slur to Mexicans and Mexican-Americans?

Oh yes...my screen name -- FilioScotia. Latin for Son of Scotland. Scottish on both sides of my family and very proud of it.

Do we really want to know why Sehorn and Whitney split up? Don't bother asking them because you won't get a truthful answer from either of them.

Get this. This is how Sehorn explained the divorce to Sports Illustrated.

"I should be grateful Whitney made the decision she did. We split, because, as she said, everything was about Jason, Jason, Jason, and she wanted to pursue a career."

"It wasn't really about Jason, Jason, Jason," Casey countered. "In my mind, Jason was like a knight and he will always be like a knight."

Isn't that special. Oh well. As King Arthur once said, "once a knight's enough."

Here is a link to a timeline the Dallas Morning News put together on Bonnie and Clyde. It doesn't mention Houston. Yet, I've also heard of Bonnie & Clyde robbing the Heights State Bank (Rockefellers). It was attributed more to legend than anything factual. While I don't believe B&C robbed the place, it's possible that members of the Barrow gang may have held it up at one point.

It's worth noting and remembering that at the height of their murderous spree, B&C were blamed for just about every bank robbery in the country at one time or another, including many they couldn't possibly have done. Banks hundreds of miles apart were robbed at almost the same time and B&C got the blame.

It was the Depression. Banks and bankers were blamed for all the country's problems and nobody felt sorry for those that were robbed. A lot of people were robbing banks, and B&C just joined the trend and, for the most part, they just robbed the easy ones.

That's why I don't think B&C would have robbed the Heights Bank, or any bank deep inside a large city. Most if not all the banks they robbed were in small out-of-the-way towns where it was easy to make a quick getaway and disappear into the countryside.

And by the way, Frank Hamer wasn't a cowboy. He was one of the greatest Texas Rangers who ever wore the badge, and he came out of retirement to track down Bonnie and Clyde. He was famous for his dogged persistence -- he never gave up on a manhunt because he knew his prey would make a mistake sooner or later.

If you want to see a place where Bonnie Parker may have worked as a teenager, go to Nacogdoches and visit the Old Time String Shop on the town square next to the fire station. That shop was a drug-store in the 1920s and 30s, and they say Bonnie worked there for a time before she met Clyde.

With high hopes the Board Nazi's don't come gunning for me, I am responding not to topic, but what Filio added above. With a big thank you, you have finally filled in my jigsaw puzzle. In 1947-48, I attended a GSA camp, Camp Tejas, just off Clear Lake on Taylor Lake I believe. We walked just south of the cabins and explored a eerie mansion with swimming pool decorated with wonderful colorful tiles. Memory had slipped on the name of the Estate and Filio just hit it right on the head. I give you the Jim West Mansion:

Thanks WestU. I do what I can, and I live to serve others.

In the late 50s , I remember a large orphanage on the way to Galveston . I was eight or nine and my Cub Scout group would go there sometime to bring gifts to the kids etc. . Of course I remember it as a big , gloomy place . Where exactly was this building? Old Galveston rd. or Gulf Freeway ? When did it stop being an orphanage ?

I've lived here a long time but I don't remember an orphanage on Old Galveston Rd or the Gulf Freeway, but I do remember two other possible answers to your query. There was the Harris County Home for Boys on old FM 528 -- now NASA Parkway -- on Clear Lake near the Jim West Mansion. It was a big and gloomy looking old building that looked like something out of a Charles Dickens novel. It was torn down in the sixties and replaced by a modern juvenile detention center that looked like a school with dormitories. I don't think the county owns it anymore.

Another possibility is the old Moody Hall Orphanage on Avenue Q in Galveston. It was the first building occupied by Galveston College when it opened in the late 60s. The building is still there on the college campus, and it's still called Moody Hall. Here's something I cut and pasted off the Galveston College website.

http://www.gc.edu/gc/GC_History.asp?SnID=61237

"For the opening of the College in September 1967, through the spring of 1970, the College occupied Moody Hall, a refurbished orphanage, as its only campus facility. The initial academic offerings were fairly broad in scope, while the occupational program was minimal but with strong offerings in vocational nursing, office occupations, engineering/drafting and law enforcement."

I'm not advocating "beating up cripples". I just don't think they are off-limits if they want to throw their hat in the ring.

Where is it written that someone in a wheelchair gets a pass on personal behavior? Does their disability give them immunity to being held responsible for what they say? I say if a person in a wheelchair deserves to be slapped, then he or she should be slapped and the devil take the hindmost.

In the matter of Michael J. Fox, this broohaha over Rush Limbaugh's alleged "mocking" of his disability is now being used as an excuse to ignore the point Limbaugh was making -- which was that everything -- EVERYTHING -- Fox said in that campaign spot was a lie. A LIE. Nothing he said was true. Nobody is talking about that. Doesn't the truth matter anymore?

Stem Cell Research is legal in every state. There are no prohibitions on it anywhere. EMBRYONIC Stem Cell research is the only form of this research that the federal government will not fund. Nothing prevents states or privately funded research centers that don't get federal money from doing it on their own with their own money. California is doing it.

None of this harangue makes any sense because not one -- NOT ONE -- reputable research center in this country has found any sign that embryonic stem cells can be used for anything. On the other hand, a number of research centers -- including Baylor College of Medicine right here in Houston -- have found a lot of promise in Adult Stem Cells, which by the way, can be obtained from adults -- not aborted fetuses. Why is the Democratic Party so married to the use of cells that can only come from aborted unborn babies? They act like it will be the end of the world if they can't kill some babies to get what they want.

And worse, why are people like MJ Fox so willing to take something as important as stem cell research and turn it into a political weapon? That's the most despicable thing of all, and I think he deserves to be slapped down. Figuratively and literally.

He must not have read the instructions correctly Red, they're suppose to prevent sores on the other head!

You've never heard of Willie the one-eyed wonder worm? (It's one of George Carlin's names for "the other head".

It makes more sense for me (being hispanic) to say "El." The name is spanish "El" just naturally takes it's spot

I agree, but a lot of people here are saying "THE EL Capitan". Which is repetitive, needless and unnecessarily redundant.

Just the same, the theater's name on its signage and in common usage was "Capitan". Not "El Capitan".

Walk into Sears on main, Larry's Art's, Peek inside of El Capitan in Pasadena near the door. You'll "smell it." It just smells old that's all

Just an FYI here. I notice a lot of people here on the HAIF refer to that art deco movie house in Pasadena as "El Capitan". That's not quite correct. It was never called that. It was just the "Capitan". They never used the Spanish article "El" in front of the name. I speak with a little authority on this because I grew up in Pasadena, and I even lived three blocks from the theater on Pomeroy Street. I had an intimate familiarity with that place. Memorieees...pressed between the pages da da daaa...

Check any photograph of it. Here's a couple. http://www.texasescapes.com/TexasTheaters/...tan-Theatre.htm

Really? Is there a scandal here we should know about?

LOL!!!! Thanks for that. Talk about an unconscious Freudian slip. No scandal there. The Reverend Steve Bancroft -- with three small children of his own -- became Rector in 1987, and as word got around that the church had a new and energetic young priest with lots of fresh new ideas, families with young children started returning to Trinity.

Although I don't attend Trinity Episcopal Church anymore, I still have fond memories of the "gallery" of historic photos on the walls of Trinity's Parish Hall. At least they were there a few years ago -- I hope they still are. I'm talking about Trinity's annual Parish Easter photos of its church members, gathered on the Holman side of the church for a long group shot. The photographer uses one of those old clunky tripod mounted long-exposure box cameras, and he has to pan the group so slowly that kids at one end can run behind the group to the other end, and the finished print will show them at both ends. That really does work. A bunch of kids have done it over the years.

I'm bringing this up here because of the way these photos contain a moving visual history of that church, and in the distant background of some of them, the history of the corner of Main and Holman.

The Anglican style church building with the side-mounted bell tower was completed in 1919, and the annual parish photos began the following year. In the 1920s, the national prosperity was evident in the abundance of children, and you can see the strains of the Great Depression in the adults' faces in the 1930s. Photos of the war years of the 1940s are striking because there are almost no young men. Most of them came home in 1945, and the photo of Easter 1946 is strikingly different from the one of the year before. Clear evidence of the post-war baby boom can be seen in the following years.

The church kept growing through the 50s, 60s and 70s, but it started shrinking in the 80s as people in the Parish became disenchanted with longtime Rector Arthur Knapp. The arrival of a young priest in the late 80s launched a new period of growth and another explosion of children.

I have spent a lot of time walking around the Trinity Parish Hall studying those wonderful old photos and allowing myself to be moved by the way they show what people and Houston looked like in those moments frozen in time on Easter Sunday every year over more than 80 years. You can see any number of young children grow from childhood to adulthood and old age. Trinity has many middle-aged and elderly members who were baptised there as infants.

It's well worth a visit to Trinity, even if you don't happen to be an Episcopalian. There are tours every Sunday after morning worship, and the collection of stunning stained glass windows is the highlight. Also check out the historic altar-piece, sculpted by the architect who designed and built the old Lovett Bldg at Rice University.

There's a lot of history at Trinity Church. Here's a link to the tour page: http://www.trinitychurch.net/default.asp?id=189

Nothing will save this place now. All Hakeem could care about is $$$$$.

A news report on the radio yesterday said that the place was last occupied by NASA in 1991. Since then it was owned by the Pappas Family, think food. The last time anyone lived in it was 1947 or 1949. It is already listed on Texas and National Historic sites but that doesn't provide any protection in Houston.

Houston's preservation ordinance is of no help to the Jim West mansion because it's not in Houston. It's in Pasadena. Yes the Pasadena city limits reaches all the way to NASA Road One. Pasadena does not have zoning, but it does have a planning commission which has a little bit of power.

It may not be the racial make-up of Pearland, but it's definitely the racial makeup of the area.

I bet all the black people are asking themselves where all these white people came from!

I lived in the neighborhood just south of Madison High for several years in the early 70s. My house was on Simsbrook at Whiteheather, in that un-subdivided neighborhood just east of Hiram Clarke. Just east of us, the subdivision of tract homes on both sides of the bayou on Buffalo Spdwy between Orem and W. Fuqua was new then, and it was heavily promoted to people in the inner city with special FHA mortgages that let them move in little or no down payment.

Even then, the area was predominantly black and it was a nice area. I'm white, and I say that because my wife and I always enjoyed our observation that the nicest looking houses in that new neighborhood belonged to black families. They were well maintained and their yards were always neat and trimmed.

Even though the area was new, there were already some trashy looking houses with badly kept yards and cars on blocks in the driveways, and almost without exception, they belonged to white families. I haven't been back there in many years so I have no idea what it looks like now.