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2 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said:

It's not that I didn't it's called auto-correct on your phone

It’s actually called you never lived in Dallas. 

3 minutes ago, Response said:

@ Barn

 

LOL. Dallas has no major tourist attractions. Everything you listed are boring little things that can be found in just about every city. Come on, Farmer's Market? Right. Dallas 'tourist' attractions are as mundane as Indianapolis' tourist attractions.

Mundane? Maybe, but tourist attractions nevertheless. 

2 minutes ago, Response said:

I'm sure Discovery Green has as many tourist as your little Klyde Warren. Your stuff isn't exactly Fisherman's Wharf or Buckingham Palace either you know.

Totally agree about that part. Downtown Dallas has come very far, but has very far to go still, just as downtown Houston has and does. I just think that from a tourist standpoint, Dallas has more to offer in a more compact, walkable area than Houston does. Dallas smaller size, as is always mentioned on here, plays to its benefit.

5 minutes ago, Response said:

Yawn. You still have to sit in a 2-hour long traffic jam if you want to see the Rangers lose.

 

Let's see, in Houston the pedestrians have The Wortham, The Alley, Jones Hall, Jones Plaza, the downtown aquarium, Discovery Green, Tranquility Park, Sesquicentennial Park, Sam Houston Park, Greenstreet, The Shops at Houston Center, Market Square, the Astros, the Dynamo, the Rockets, Buffalo Bayou Park, Eleanor Tinsley Park and the Johnny Steele. Midtown is exploding with development, ect (all within walking distance of DT). A 5-minute Metrorail will get you to the greatest museum district in the state (please don't make me list all 150 of them), Hermann Park, the zoo, the Miller Outdoor Theatre, Rice University, the Texas Medical Center 1,2 and soon to be 3 (also exploding with development) and that stadium where they have the Superbowl sometimes. All of that can be done without a car.  A 5-minute Uber will get you to Montrose, the Heights and the Kirby area (also exploding with development) ect. ect. ect. Let's not forget Uptown Houston isn't really that far away either. 

Not one single thing you listed in the actual core would get me down there as a tourist, unless I were going to see a performance of some type. 

4 hours ago, crock said:

Downtown Dallas still has the Original Neiman Marcus, the Majestic Theater and the extremely tourist-y area around the JFK Assassination.   Downtown Houston doesn't have a department store, open historic theater, or tourist destination that rival those spots, so to a traveller/tourist/suburbanite, Dallas's downtown still might seem like it has more to offer.  That being said, downtown dallas has literally 1 decent bar right now: Midnight Rambler.   

 

 

Don’t forget the Dallas museum of art, nasher  sculpture garden, Perot science museum, Dallas world aquarium, new holocaust museum, old red courthouse museum, arts district, farmers market, reunion tower, pioneer park sculptures, klyde warren park (which bridged the gap between downtown and uptown), west end ( although only a shadow of its former self but still has some neat architecture), Victory Park ( which is exploding with development), etc..., all are in the core and are within walking distance of each other. And with a 5 minute Uber ride, you can be in Deep Ellum, the Cedars, Lower Greenville, uptown, etc... Dallas’s smaller size sometimes works to its advantage. 

53 minutes ago, Reefmonkey said:

 

Yeah, I've been to the original Neiman Marcus several times, it's nice and all in a mid-20th Century downtown department store way, but I keep hearing retail is dead, I'm not sure how important downtown department stores are to a vibrant urban life anymore. Up until a few years ago Houston still had the original downtown Foleys, and Macy's closed it because it wasn't making enough money. I agree about Houston's theatre district being superior to Dallas'. Dallas' only really nice downtown venue is the Meyerson, but it is only for symphony and other musical performances. I don't understand why they built it the way they did, but it was extremely short-sighted, which is why if Dallasites wanna see the national touring production of Hamilton, they've gotta go down to the Music Hall at Fairpark, which is a dump.

 

And I'm not saying this to diss Dallas, it was my college town, I visit friends there a lot I actually like it, I could live there again. I always see Dallas and Houston as two equally good, slightly different cities, I've always thought the back-and-forth rivalry was silly.

The Winspear opera house, Wily theatre, and Moody performance hall, all in the arts district, are also quite nice. Hamilton would have played at the Winspear, but there was a struggle amongst the arts groups and the music hall group won. 

1 hour ago, j_cuevas713 said:

Why would we want a museum where one of the greatest presidents to ever live was murdered!? Lol Did we forget he made his infamous speech at Rice here in Houston??? 

Ellum* but yeah be sarcastic or whatever butthurt you want to be lol

It just seemed strange that you “lived” in Dallas for 4 years and didn’t  know the proper name for Deep Ellum. 

On 4/6/2019 at 8:11 PM, j_cuevas713 said:

Then you haven’t been to downtown Dallas but if you’re referring to neighborhoods like Deep Ellen and Lower Greenville then there is no bias in knowing that compared to Houston those neighborhoods are very limited and small. Yet they are some of the cities most well known neighborhoods. I lived in Dallas for 4 years and it is very spread out and boring. Very overrated compared to what it has to offer. Even neighborhoods that had a sense of walkability catered to pretentious crowds alone. 

Where is the Deep Ellen neighborhood? I can’t find it in a map. 

7 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

Haha riiight the fact of the matter is I LIVED THERE and yes it’s very spread out. Houston is spread out but it doesn’t feel disconnected. Cutting down others? Lol I have the complex yet you’re the sensitive one 👍🏼

Giggle, giggle

12 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

Then you haven’t been to downtown Dallas but if you’re referring to neighborhoods like Deep Ellen and Lower Greenville then there is no bias in knowing that compared to Houston those neighborhoods are very limited and small. Yet they are some of the cities most well known neighborhoods. I lived in Dallas for 4 years and it is very spread out and boring. Very overrated compared to what it has to offer. Even neighborhoods that had a sense of walkability catered to pretentious crowds alone. 

Wow. Severe inferiority complex you have there. Someone calling Dallas spread out,, as compared to Houston, shows how totally biased and unrealistic you are. You might focus on improving your city rather than cutting others down to boost yours up. 

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^^^it seems you may have visited the wrong areas of town, as I do not quite recognize the city you are referring to. Especially the part about all the 60’s-70’s old and cold concrete architecture. It seems you might not have been too successful at curbing your Houston bias. 

On 3/27/2019 at 8:30 AM, houstontexasjack said:

I think you're on the money there regarding Mr. Speck. I also appreciate @Luminare 's comments on the freeway reroute and Mr. Speck's criticisms.  His alternative "proposal" amounts to a bag of beans and wishful thinking. From the summary I've read of his presentation, it seems the bulk of his criticisms involve Segments 1 and 2. Segment 3, the Downtown reroute, has a very large number of positives.  I think urban sentiment can be mobilized behind the park decks to make them happen.  If the @$$holes to the north (Dallas) can fund Clyde Warren Park, surely we can produce something bigger and better.

 

Demolishing the Pierce, even to sell off the pieces of land to developers, isn't a bad thing in my view.  It'd eliminate the psychological barrier between Downtown and Midtown. And heck, some of the proceeds could fund the deck east of the George R. Brown.

Jealous much? Sounds like you haven’t been to Dallas recently. 

So it seems Dallas’ low rents and high vacancies are working in their favor. I would much rather have residential and hotel conversions of older buildings than have properties sit vacant for years waiting for the market to turn. 

On 5/10/2017 at 10:29 PM, quietstorm said:

I believe that we are reaching a critical mass of activity around Discovery Green/Avenida Houston and Market Square Park  that will eventually move to Dallas if thoughtful big box retail alternatives are offered (i.e., pop-up shops, farmers markets, art fairs, flea markets, etc.). These were all taken tonight.  This type of activity on a Wednesday night in DT Houston would have been unimaginable a few years ago.  There was a great mix of programmed activities (live music in front of GRB, movie at Market Square Park) alongside organic urban activity with folks walking, eating, reading, and just enjoying the night.  We are getting there....

How active was the other 95% of downtown?